John in NorCal

Can anyone tell me what the process of getting a bike from out of state is like. I have read a little about what is needed on the california DMV site, but I want to hear other peoples experiances.

The bike that i want to buy is in Florida and it has only 1600 miles on it. I have read that if the vehicle has under 7500 miles on it it is considered new. What does that mean? How does the DMV know how many miles are on the bike? I understand that the seller and buyer fill out a sheet that acknowledge how many miles are on the bike, but what happens if we both say that there is 7500 miles on it? Does the DMV check how many miles are on the bike when you bring it in for them to check the VIN #?

I really need help or advice. Thanks

--JOHN

.Ash

get a cluster that reads 7500 miles... downfall is the added mileage that will show on your title. i was going to bring a new 49 state bike in and keep it reg'd in NH...

rastropovitch

this 7500 mile limit is strickly enforced unfortunately. it may be better to buy from cali unless your bent on getting this bike. it is a visual inspection by dmv so it can be fudged... but that may be unlikey if you don;t have a relationship with someone there. they ONLY other way to do this without getting a cluster is to use an out of state address to register the bike to. Of course you have to be licsenced at that address to get the bike there, then after you have done this, you "Move" to california. then and only then can you legally bring the bike here with less than 7500 miles. many people that do this all the time keep more than the california residency.
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John in NorCal

thanks guys. I will think about those suggestions. Maybe I should just get a bike here in cali. The only reason I am trying to get this bike from Florida is that its my sister's. I know she will give me a good deal and help with the shipping. But thanks again.

ALL MOTA

The way you can get around it is to get a hold of the CARB (emission) sticker. Just as long as the bike has that sticker, mileage won't matter. My buddy registered his 929 with 1400 miles and a MI title. Luckily he used a trunk tray (where the sticker is located on 929) off of a CA 929. That's one of the first things the DMV looks for. Find out where your bike's sticker is located, and try to find that same piece off of a CA bike.

John in NorCal

^^^so do you think that doing that is easier than just getting a "new" cluster that has over 7500 miles on it. I have no idea where that sticker would be but it is a Yamaha R1.


Modified by John in NorCal at 7:11 PM 8/14/2004

ViolatedR1

You seem to know allot about this stuff. Where do you get this CARB(emission sticker). I just tried to register my 2003 R1 but got denied because of the mileage, which I wasn't aware of. I previously registered my GSXR 1000 when I moved here about 2 years ago and had no problems then so figured I would have any now since both were out of state bikes. So let me ask you this what happens if I get this sticker or come across a different cluster with over 7500 miles. Will I still be able to register it again? When they run the VIN through the system again will it raise a red flag? Any info you can give me will be very helpful.

9integra2

Just buy my bike.

http://www.craigslist.org/sby/mcy/39890129.html

ALL MOTA

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I wouldn't say "easier" per se, because the sticker might actually be harder to get a hold of. But as someone mentioned, getting a different gauge might depreciate the value since it will say that you have 7500+ miles on the title, even though you know it has less. Alot of newbie buyers think that 7500 miles is alot.

It'll be easy to find out where the sticker is since you're in CA. Ask a friend who might have the same bike, or snoop around at the dealer showroom.

Here's an example of the sticker off my 600RR:





<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ViolatedR1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You seem to know allot about this stuff. Where do you get this CARB(emission sticker). I just tried to register my 2003 R1 but got denied because of the mileage, which I wasn't aware of. I previously registered my GSXR 1000 when I moved here about 2 years ago and had no problems then so figured I would have any now since both were out of state bikes. So let me ask you this what happens if I get this sticker or come across a different cluster with over 7500 miles. Will I still be able to register it again? When they run the VIN through the system again will it raise a red flag? Any info you can give me will be very helpful. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm not 100% sure. I know that th CHP will red flag bikes which are imported and are not suppose to be registered in the US and/or CA. That's why you have to be smart and careful when trying to street legalize a NSR, RGV, and stuff like that. Some lucky people get away with it, and some people don't.

I would say go back, and play dumb. If they give you ****, bust out some excuse and be a good salesman about it. You want them to give in, but always keep your cool. If you're a dick, they'll for sure be the bigger one.


Modified by ALL MOTA at 6:58 PM 8/19/2004

ViolatedR1

Hey Good advice, it might just come down to playing dumb. I think I'll go to one of those super busy DMV's where they don't give a **** or AAA. I first went to the DMV in Simi Valley, anyone else who is reading this, don't go there they have too much time on their hands. What about the CARB (emission) sticker? Any clue on where to get that or was that included in the 100% not sure comment. Thanks for replying to my previous question.

ALL MOTA

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Just try to replace the piece that it's on (of course the piece has to be from a CA bike). Try the local motorcycle wrecking yards or mabye even eGay. You can even try getting a fresh sticker from the dealer. Just make up a story of how the bike is salvaged, you had to replace the piece, it didn't come with one, and now DMV is sweating you. Hopefully they'll be cool and not ask for paperwork.

ViolatedR1

Hey Good news. When I was at the shop picking up a different part, i was telling the part guy about my dilemma, he simply ordered me the sticker, it cost $5. All he said was "you didn't get this from me" as simple as that. So, hopefully when I go back to DMV they won't give me any hassle. So to anyone else ready this, just ask your parts guy if he can order it, check with a younger guy, the older guys might not do it due to ethical reasons..but as long as you have a cool guy you shouldn't have any problems.