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Old 06-20-2004, 05:44 PM
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Default H22A1 SMSP header dyno...

Setup:
apexi intake
2.5" straight piping to a Greddy SP catback(2.36")
SMSP mild NA header

Hondata S100 on a P28
No PS or AC
Fidanza flywheel
Exedy organic clutch
JDM 15" ITR wheels

194 whp/150 trq Stoney tuned at VSV

I've previously dyno 168 whp at a dyno in Minneapolis, and I baselined 181 whp/150 trq on VSV's dyno with just an fpr for tuning.

I'll see if I can find someone with a scanner to get the graph up here, but everything is nice and smooth. You can't even find VTEC unless you look at the AF plot.
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that's REAL good man,
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13whp gain for $1,300.

no offense dude, but im glad your happy with that.
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194-168= 26 whp

The 181 whp run had a horrible AF curve that dipped into the 10s at some places. Yes, I am happy that I gained 26 whp from a header, tuning, and pulling some misc. parts off the car.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by laughinxxx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">194-168= 26 whp

The 181 whp run had a horrible AF curve that dipped into the 10s at some places. Yes, I am happy that I gained 26 whp from a header, tuning, and pulling some misc. parts off the car. </TD></TR></TABLE>

that isnt accurate though. if the car was properly tuned before the header install im sure you would have seen more then the 181whp run. you dont tune a car and see the whp drop by giving it the right ammount of fuel and air.

i know money dictates all. i just wish that somebody would have a properly working, tuned car BEFORE the header.
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181 whp was with the header untuned. 168 whp was without the header running the stock P13 and tuning the fpr.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by laughinxxx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">181 whp was with the header untuned. 168 whp was without the header running the stock P13 and tuning the fpr. </TD></TR></TABLE>

well damn it man! if that would have been clear in the first place

now that its all settled.
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got any pics of this header? i keep hearing about it, but havent seen any pics.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Shakes &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

well damn it man! if that would have been clear in the first place

now that its all settled. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks man.
The only problem is that when I was at VSV, they were talking about the 350 whp and 480 whp street cars that are coming out of there. That brought me back to reality real quick.
Maybe somebody has a measly $7999 laying around and wants a quick commuter car. I wouldn't mind building an H22 hatch and petitioning Dave for another header.
Edit: No pics, Waffles forgot and I forgot to remind him.
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FINALLY, good dynos of a SMSP header thats on a fairly stock engine


thanks for posting up dude been waiting a long time for this
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good numbers laughinxxx
are you going to use the s100
for nitrous control as well?
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it is not faily stock...plz take a dyno with p/s and a/c belts on...that is stock like since many ppl will be running aroudn town with both of those.
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good numbers
Old 06-21-2004, 04:45 AM
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word still aint got the loot tho---good numbs.
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awesome

that's what i was hoping for with mine. I put a new clutch in this a weekend so hopefully i'll be posting some numbers up soon.

I'll post pics up later if dave doesn't mind. i know they were already posted, then taken down.
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FINALLY! Now some solid results with previous dynos! Now to contact dave about his next run
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Its hard to believe unless youve actually seen results yourself... I have
Old 06-21-2004, 10:38 AM
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Default Re: (makavelli1227)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by makavelli1227 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it is not faily stock...plz take a dyno with p/s and a/c belts on...that is stock like since many ppl will be running aroudn town with both of those.</TD></TR></TABLE>

actually, I've been running without an A/C belt and P/S in my 4th gen prelude for about 1 1/2 years now. but of course I don't live in a place with high humidity and crazy hot summers. turns are pretty easy when you get the car moving. Awesome numbers by the way. now get it to the tracks!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by makavelli1227 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it is not faily stock...plz take a dyno with p/s and a/c belts on...that is stock like since many ppl will be running aroudn town with both of those.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'd be happy to do that for you. Now here's what it will cost you to get me to do this thing that you ask:
-$100 for gas to Dallas TX from AR
-$20 for tolls(yes, I'm serious)
-$30 for food
-$200 for me to reinstall the AC and PS pumps and take them off after the dyno pull
-$50 for beer to drink while installing that useless ****
-$150/hr for dyno time
-$.30/mile that I have to drive. It's about a 700-800 mile round trip, so roughly $250.

It's only a measly $800.

SKDRCR: I pulled the nitrous kit awhile back.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by laughinxxx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

SKDRCR: I pulled the nitrous kit awhile back.
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I told you NOS sucked....
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I told you NOS sucked.... </TD></TR></TABLE>
Dammit man, do you miss anything?

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You look a tad lean just before VTEC but other than that, that torque line is niiiiccceee. Mine w/ the Mugen torque line tapers off much MUCH more drasticly after 6500 rpm. Good stuff!
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ok, so we are compairing dynos from different days and differnt towns to see the gains....... riiiight

good luck w/that one...

someone bring me a damn sms header so i can swap that ho on the dyno and see the real gains..
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Default Re: H22A1 SMSP header dyno... (JDogg)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDogg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok, so we are compairing dynos from different days and differnt towns to see the gains....... riiiight

good luck w/that one...

someone bring me a damn sms header so i can swap that ho on the dyno and see the real gains..</TD></TR></TABLE>

i will be there shortly, 300 miles left on my clutch break-in. i'm sending you a pm.
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