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Well i thought id share my turbo build up as well.
A lil feedback:
I am building a D16Y7 motor. I had an N/A high CR Minime but after a year of multiple problems with detonation and 12.4:1 CR i decided to go the boost route. So i want to build a NON-Vtec setup.
Since im kind of short on money i decided to sell the Vtec head,ECU,DC sport header and go back the stock non vtec head and use the money for a decent build up. I have planned on doing this build in 2 Phases.
Phase 1--->Motor Build up and 1000 miles of break in. Low CR pistons,Eagle rods and block build in general.
This is the motor setup.
block
Suzuki Vitara pistons(8.5:1 CR on stock unmilled head)
Hasting rings
Eagle rods with ARP2000 bolts
ARP Head studs
New Rod Bearings
New Main crank bearings
KMS Block guard
Block Decked
Block completelly Blueprinted
Head
D16Y7 head
Fully Cleaned and new Valve seals
Phase 2--> Boost
All the work was done by my friend and Mechanic Neoh2Ning at his shop...I helped a lil too and learnt through all the process..Thanks Neoh!!
To the pictures
Firts of all here are some of the parts i had gather. Starion FMIC looks a lil banged but its working ok and will do the job till i can fund a better one. It was on a car boosting 20PSIs and it worked good. The wastegate is a Racegate
Couple of weeks later guess what arrived? Thanks to NolimitMotorsports
Pistons with rods. As you can see the pistons are Floating style
Head fully cleaned
Space ship mode....
Motor Out:
She feels sooooooo empty inside ..No heart.
Time for a JDM pose YO
Block out of the car and empty..You can see how dirty and full of oil it was..Looks nasty..When we took out the previous Pistons(PM7) we found out 3 of them were broken on the ringlands.No wonder all the mess.
More pictures coming...
Modified by fjt at 11:22 PM 8/11/2004
A lil feedback:
I am building a D16Y7 motor. I had an N/A high CR Minime but after a year of multiple problems with detonation and 12.4:1 CR i decided to go the boost route. So i want to build a NON-Vtec setup.
Since im kind of short on money i decided to sell the Vtec head,ECU,DC sport header and go back the stock non vtec head and use the money for a decent build up. I have planned on doing this build in 2 Phases.
Phase 1--->Motor Build up and 1000 miles of break in. Low CR pistons,Eagle rods and block build in general.
This is the motor setup.
block
Suzuki Vitara pistons(8.5:1 CR on stock unmilled head)
Hasting rings
Eagle rods with ARP2000 bolts
ARP Head studs
New Rod Bearings
New Main crank bearings
KMS Block guard
Block Decked
Block completelly Blueprinted
Head
D16Y7 head
Fully Cleaned and new Valve seals
Phase 2--> Boost
All the work was done by my friend and Mechanic Neoh2Ning at his shop...I helped a lil too and learnt through all the process..Thanks Neoh!!
To the pictures
Firts of all here are some of the parts i had gather. Starion FMIC looks a lil banged but its working ok and will do the job till i can fund a better one. It was on a car boosting 20PSIs and it worked good. The wastegate is a Racegate
Couple of weeks later guess what arrived? Thanks to NolimitMotorsports
Pistons with rods. As you can see the pistons are Floating style
Head fully cleaned
Space ship mode....
Motor Out:
She feels sooooooo empty inside ..No heart.
Time for a JDM pose YO
Block out of the car and empty..You can see how dirty and full of oil it was..Looks nasty..When we took out the previous Pistons(PM7) we found out 3 of them were broken on the ringlands.No wonder all the mess.
More pictures coming...
Modified by fjt at 11:22 PM 8/11/2004
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Re: Another possible D series ninja near you **Lots of pics** (fjt)
Then the block was sent to the Machine shop to Notch it for the Eagle rods,install the Block guard,honing of cilinders and decking the block.
Block notching..
We got back the block and proceeded to work on the cosmetics of the engine..We decided to paint the Block and tranny and Valve cover.
First coat:
Masked all the areas we didnt want to paint..
first coat finished...we put 2 more coats and then a clear coat for a siny finish.
Valve cover
With all that done then we could go on and start putting the ARP head studs and proceed to assemble everything back up. So far its been a lil bit exhausting.
Block notching..
We got back the block and proceeded to work on the cosmetics of the engine..We decided to paint the Block and tranny and Valve cover.
First coat:
Masked all the areas we didnt want to paint..
first coat finished...we put 2 more coats and then a clear coat for a siny finish.
Valve cover
With all that done then we could go on and start putting the ARP head studs and proceed to assemble everything back up. So far its been a lil bit exhausting.
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On to putting the ARP head studs...
Hand tightening them first..
I think were ready to go to the next step.
Block finished with all studs,pistons and block guard...Isnt it beautiful?
Dropping the head in there.
Time to have some private time with my engine and lick
Then we moved to painting the tranny too
Finished
Finished assembling the motor.Valve adjustments performed and this is how the engine looks with the valve cover on.
Front engine:
Rear Engine:
Side Engine:
Oil Pan on
Next morning.....
Ready to drop the motor in there.
Going down..
aaaand down to its home sweet home..
Finally the car is out of the shop and ready for break in and waiting anxiously for its Manifold and turbine to move on to Phase 2
Hand tightening them first..
I think were ready to go to the next step.
Block finished with all studs,pistons and block guard...Isnt it beautiful?
Dropping the head in there.
Time to have some private time with my engine and lick
Then we moved to painting the tranny too
Finished
Finished assembling the motor.Valve adjustments performed and this is how the engine looks with the valve cover on.
Front engine:
Rear Engine:
Side Engine:
Oil Pan on
Next morning.....
Ready to drop the motor in there.
Going down..
aaaand down to its home sweet home..
Finally the car is out of the shop and ready for break in and waiting anxiously for its Manifold and turbine to move on to Phase 2
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Re: Another possible D series ninja near you **Lots of pics** (fjt)
Suzuki vitara pistons? Need more info please. Pro/Cons? Costs? Any extra machining to fit? Thanks.
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Re: Another possible D series ninja near you **Lots of pics** (wc)
Nice, looks like you got a little more personal with your motor then I did with mine, lol.
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Re: Another possible D series ninja near you **Lots of pics** (wc)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wc »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Suzuki vitara pistons? Need more info please. Pro/Cons? Costs? Any extra machining to fit? Thanks.
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That's PR style. They love trying to install vitara pistons in anything that they will fit. to a fellow puerto rican!!! Good luck on the build.
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That's PR style. They love trying to install vitara pistons in anything that they will fit. to a fellow puerto rican!!! Good luck on the build.
June
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Re: Another possible D series ninja near you **Lots of pics** (wc)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wc »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Suzuki vitara pistons? Need more info please. Pro/Cons? Costs? Any extra machining to fit? Thanks.
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Something unaware to a lo of ppl..I was amazed too when i heard it but after seeing my friend ride boosting 16PSI and 12 sec runs i decided to give it a try.A lot of ppl in here use these pistons for D series Turbo build ups with great results.
The pistons have the same 75MM bore as the D15,D16 engine.Pistons are out of 98-99 Vitara.The code of the piston is G16. NO machining needed..they just drop in there like if they were meant for the engine [Ace ventura}Like a gloooooooove[/Ace ventura off]..
COmpression numbers on Y7 engines are 8.5:1(slightly higher on Y8) with stock head. They are floating style piston. Not forged but made of a stronger cast plus they are t-6 heat treated.
Cost? Well i got a brand new set for less than a 100 bucks(prize to low to say..lol). They go for around 140 a set and the replacement pistons go for like 100 a set. If you want to boost between 15-20 PSI these are an excelent solution instead of buying 300$+ AFtermarkets...
Compression too low? Well just mill the head and get desired ratio.The piston doesnt get flush up top so if you mill the head the valves still clear very fine.
I plan in the future to Weld the head to get a rectangular chamber and mill it a lil for maybe a 9.1:1 compression.
Modified by fjt at 4:00 PM 8/29/2006
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Something unaware to a lo of ppl..I was amazed too when i heard it but after seeing my friend ride boosting 16PSI and 12 sec runs i decided to give it a try.A lot of ppl in here use these pistons for D series Turbo build ups with great results.
The pistons have the same 75MM bore as the D15,D16 engine.Pistons are out of 98-99 Vitara.The code of the piston is G16. NO machining needed..they just drop in there like if they were meant for the engine [Ace ventura}Like a gloooooooove[/Ace ventura off]..
COmpression numbers on Y7 engines are 8.5:1(slightly higher on Y8) with stock head. They are floating style piston. Not forged but made of a stronger cast plus they are t-6 heat treated.
Cost? Well i got a brand new set for less than a 100 bucks(prize to low to say..lol). They go for around 140 a set and the replacement pistons go for like 100 a set. If you want to boost between 15-20 PSI these are an excelent solution instead of buying 300$+ AFtermarkets...
Compression too low? Well just mill the head and get desired ratio.The piston doesnt get flush up top so if you mill the head the valves still clear very fine.
I plan in the future to Weld the head to get a rectangular chamber and mill it a lil for maybe a 9.1:1 compression.
Modified by fjt at 4:00 PM 8/29/2006
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Re: Another possible D series ninja near you **Lots of pics** (RyanCivic2000)
nice build. but i dont know about that block licking heh. so those pistons work without any modification?? but yeah all in all nice build
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Nice build up.
So....you pretty much need to use aftermarket rods for these pistons I assume since they are floating pins?
I think you should have started a post just about the pistons!
Honestly, nice build.
So....you pretty much need to use aftermarket rods for these pistons I assume since they are floating pins?
I think you should have started a post just about the pistons!
Honestly, nice build.
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Well i hope the pistons behave like they should..I've "heard" of ppl boosting 25 PSI with them.I dunno how true that is but i know they hold 16-20 PSI cause i have some friends bosting that amount. Thats more than what i will probably do anyways.
I will keep boost like in 10-12PSI for daily and maybe tune for 15PSI's at the track
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jays91DXhatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nice build up.
So....you pretty much need to use aftermarket rods for these pistons I assume since they are floating pins?
I think you should have started a post just about the pistons!
Honestly, nice build.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Negative..The pin will slide on the Stock rods too..If you use the stock rods u dont have to modify anything. I have a friend using these pistons with OEM A6 rods.
I will keep boost like in 10-12PSI for daily and maybe tune for 15PSI's at the track
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jays91DXhatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nice build up.
So....you pretty much need to use aftermarket rods for these pistons I assume since they are floating pins?
I think you should have started a post just about the pistons!
Honestly, nice build.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Negative..The pin will slide on the Stock rods too..If you use the stock rods u dont have to modify anything. I have a friend using these pistons with OEM A6 rods.