a new understanding of HYBRID ... 1990 Mazda RX7 powered by a 2001 LS1 V8
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a new understanding of HYBRID ... 1990 Mazda RX7 powered by a 2001 LS1 V8
Yes... a new understanding of HYBRID and where I could have gone with my mechanical skills had I picked a different platform to start my project car. First of all, know that I am sick and tired of driving this beatup, 220k mile havin', all-stock CRX HF this winter, I miss my fast hybrid CX so MUCH! ARGH! So my buddy Scott that has autoxed with me for 3 years nd alwys been great competition and fun to rce with.. He just picked up another car… SICK. A 1990 Mazda RX7 powered by a 2001 LS1 V8 and let me tell you aafter going for a joyride in it… HOLY SMOKES is this thing a BEAST !
Here is the sellers ebay ad- http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...%3AIT
They had agreed upon $7500 but the seller put it on ebay to see how much more he could get, it ended at $10g's but the buyer flaked. HA. In the end, Scott picked it up for $8000 flat, which is a wicked price, the seller had $12g's in receipts for the project. Scott bought a plne ticket to New Orlens for $136 and got on a plne few days later, picked up the V8-RX7 nd took two days to drive it the 20+ hours home. Man, does Scott find the sickest deals of the century... this is the guy 3 years ago who picked up a '95 Integra LS coupe 5spd with 34k original miles for under $5000 and then 2 years ago found a '90 Miata with 80k on it and 40 of that with a Supercharger for $4000 and last year found an older but super-rare-one-year-only Corrolla Sedan AWD for $500 and that car can accept almost any parts of a Trueno! SICK!
So here I am, daily driving my stock 70 hp (?) 1991 CRX HF and waiting for warmer weather to fix my Hybrid EG for springtime autocrossing and my concept of "good deal" by building my Civic up is, well, the concept is CRUSHED. WTF. Anyone want to buy my hybrid? Or anything in my house? How about a B17 project? I so wnt a RX7 too... or even his 'charged Miata would be hella fun. Oh well, maybe next year right? I wouldnt get anything close to what I've invested into my Hybrid EG if I sold it so soon after completion.... and I havent really been driving it as hard as I should, to enjoy it. Anyhow, it is safe to say that had I known where I'd be today with this EG compared to Scotts V8 RX7, I'd had sold the EG along time ago and built my own V8 RX7.
-Owen the soyboy
Here is the sellers ebay ad- http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...%3AIT
They had agreed upon $7500 but the seller put it on ebay to see how much more he could get, it ended at $10g's but the buyer flaked. HA. In the end, Scott picked it up for $8000 flat, which is a wicked price, the seller had $12g's in receipts for the project. Scott bought a plne ticket to New Orlens for $136 and got on a plne few days later, picked up the V8-RX7 nd took two days to drive it the 20+ hours home. Man, does Scott find the sickest deals of the century... this is the guy 3 years ago who picked up a '95 Integra LS coupe 5spd with 34k original miles for under $5000 and then 2 years ago found a '90 Miata with 80k on it and 40 of that with a Supercharger for $4000 and last year found an older but super-rare-one-year-only Corrolla Sedan AWD for $500 and that car can accept almost any parts of a Trueno! SICK!
So here I am, daily driving my stock 70 hp (?) 1991 CRX HF and waiting for warmer weather to fix my Hybrid EG for springtime autocrossing and my concept of "good deal" by building my Civic up is, well, the concept is CRUSHED. WTF. Anyone want to buy my hybrid? Or anything in my house? How about a B17 project? I so wnt a RX7 too... or even his 'charged Miata would be hella fun. Oh well, maybe next year right? I wouldnt get anything close to what I've invested into my Hybrid EG if I sold it so soon after completion.... and I havent really been driving it as hard as I should, to enjoy it. Anyhow, it is safe to say that had I known where I'd be today with this EG compared to Scotts V8 RX7, I'd had sold the EG along time ago and built my own V8 RX7.
-Owen the soyboy
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Re: a new understanding of HYBRID ... 1990 Mazda RX7 powered by a 2001 LS1 V8 (owen_the_soyboy)
it has begun... I'm picking up my RX7 roller next weekend.
ya know, I'm surprised this thred recieved zero replies. oh well.
ya know, I'm surprised this thred recieved zero replies. oh well.
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Re: a new understanding of HYBRID ... 1990 Mazda RX7 powered by a 2001 LS1 V8 (owen_the_soyboy)
well then let me be the first..
good luck to u man.. keep ur progress posted here..
im very curious to see how urs comes out.
good luck to u man.. keep ur progress posted here..
im very curious to see how urs comes out.
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Re: a new understanding of HYBRID ... 1990 Mazda RX7 powered by a 2001 LS1 V8 (owen_the_soyboy)
That swap is a great swap
As you well know
The LS series of engines are pretty light so it does not effect the handling that much
I am a BIG fan of LS ONE|TWO|SIX and some what of a guru on them
If you need any help with the swap (i have not done a rx seven but know the wiring and engine inside and out) please email me or contact me on aim (my sn is in my profile)
Good luck with the swap and you should enjoy it
<------- waits for someone to say "rotary is better and lighter"
As you well know
The LS series of engines are pretty light so it does not effect the handling that much
I am a BIG fan of LS ONE|TWO|SIX and some what of a guru on them
If you need any help with the swap (i have not done a rx seven but know the wiring and engine inside and out) please email me or contact me on aim (my sn is in my profile)
Good luck with the swap and you should enjoy it
<------- waits for someone to say "rotary is better and lighter"
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Re: a new understanding of HYBRID ... 1990 Mazda RX7 powered by a 2001 LS1 V8 (turbogixxer)
Holy ****! Good to hear it, this is my definite next project. Was this Hybrid Fc done using the Hinson super cars kit? Give me some more details!!!
I am just waiting to finish up my personal loan on my hybrid Civic (this decemeber) to start on this project, and like I said I would sell my car for this LS1 Rx-7.
Give some more details man!
Modified by Pat McGroin at 7:59 PM 5/5/2004
I am just waiting to finish up my personal loan on my hybrid Civic (this decemeber) to start on this project, and like I said I would sell my car for this LS1 Rx-7.
Give some more details man!
Modified by Pat McGroin at 7:59 PM 5/5/2004
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Re: a new understanding of HYBRID ... 1990 Mazda RX7 powered by a 2001 LS1 V8 (Pat McGroin)
heh,
thanks guys!
my friend had his 1991 RX7 with the LS1/T56 already swpped in and just weighed it it came out to 2890 pounds, but he has not done any weight savings at all. Thats what some Turbo-2's weigh in STOCK TRIM all accessoried out! He still has the steel hood and a glass sunroof too. Hopefully he can shed 200 pounds easily enough and it will be one sick puppy.
thanks guys!
my friend had his 1991 RX7 with the LS1/T56 already swpped in and just weighed it it came out to 2890 pounds, but he has not done any weight savings at all. Thats what some Turbo-2's weigh in STOCK TRIM all accessoried out! He still has the steel hood and a glass sunroof too. Hopefully he can shed 200 pounds easily enough and it will be one sick puppy.
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Re: a new understanding of HYBRID ... 1990 Mazda RX7 powered by a 2001 LS1 V8 (owen_the_soyboy)
awesome swap project. I never heard of a V8 in a RX-7 !!!
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Owen just dont jump ship completely I like reading your opinions in the rr forum.
With that said swaps of this nature have been around a coons age...its just hard to pass up building one thats for sure.
Miata with a 5.0 looks fun or better yet the old mini with a b18c conversion. I really want to do a v-8 swap into a little Ford Ranger...theres so many s10/blazer/ranger conversions around here.
Have fun!!!!
With that said swaps of this nature have been around a coons age...its just hard to pass up building one thats for sure.
Miata with a 5.0 looks fun or better yet the old mini with a b18c conversion. I really want to do a v-8 swap into a little Ford Ranger...theres so many s10/blazer/ranger conversions around here.
Have fun!!!!
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Re: a new understanding of HYBRID ... 1990 Mazda RX7 powered by a 2001 LS1 V8 (owen_the_soyboy)
I remember reading this post earlier. I hope you are still keeping the CX, you need dependable transportation right?
As for an RX7 V8 project, how much do you think that would cost? Seems like a pretty cool idea.
As for an RX7 V8 project, how much do you think that would cost? Seems like a pretty cool idea.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by APEX CRX »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">awesome swap project. I never heard of a V8 in a RX-7 !!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
its been done for years.
good luck bro, sounds like a project.
its been done for years.
good luck bro, sounds like a project.
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hell NO, I'm not leaving HondaTech! and I just cant seem to part with my Hybird CX, Ive put too much sweat and $$$ into that Honda to part it out or sell it, plus its so insanely fun to drive, I couldnt let it go.
The V8 swaps have been done into Miatas and even 1st gen RX7's for years too, its nothing new, just new to me . I was all about a stroked all-motor TODA parts'd Miata project last year, but couldnt find anything good enough or cheap enough to start with.. damn SpecMiata for flooding the market with buyers! Then my buddy bought this RX7 already swapped, for about $8000. then dumped another $500 for bushings, repairs, etc plus he still needs a good suspension setup and likely different wheels/tires too. Looks pretty sweet, especially since it looks stock on the outside, its hilarious when you think about it... he could get 400rwhp with just a few bolt ons, no joke.
I've read the LS1/T56 V8 motor/tranny is $3-5 grand depending on the common variables, then another $1500 to $3000 to get into the RX7 and running. There are several companies making V8 swap mount kits, wiring conversions, speedo calibrations... some products are much better and thus are priced higher. Of course buying a beat up 15 year old RX7 means you need to replace bushings and suspension, etc so theres another money dump... its not gonna be dirt cheap but it will be just about on par with my Civic build up, that kills me, I cant effin' believe how high priced Honda stuff is, its a crock. So, the LS1FC is an ok project, for a 12 second car, stock-built motor, just under $10 grand, I think I'll try it.
I might run One Lap of America next year in the FC, that'd be the best!
The funny thing is, I'll probably daily drive the RX7 more than the CX Hybrid, is that nuts or what?
The V8 swaps have been done into Miatas and even 1st gen RX7's for years too, its nothing new, just new to me . I was all about a stroked all-motor TODA parts'd Miata project last year, but couldnt find anything good enough or cheap enough to start with.. damn SpecMiata for flooding the market with buyers! Then my buddy bought this RX7 already swapped, for about $8000. then dumped another $500 for bushings, repairs, etc plus he still needs a good suspension setup and likely different wheels/tires too. Looks pretty sweet, especially since it looks stock on the outside, its hilarious when you think about it... he could get 400rwhp with just a few bolt ons, no joke.
I've read the LS1/T56 V8 motor/tranny is $3-5 grand depending on the common variables, then another $1500 to $3000 to get into the RX7 and running. There are several companies making V8 swap mount kits, wiring conversions, speedo calibrations... some products are much better and thus are priced higher. Of course buying a beat up 15 year old RX7 means you need to replace bushings and suspension, etc so theres another money dump... its not gonna be dirt cheap but it will be just about on par with my Civic build up, that kills me, I cant effin' believe how high priced Honda stuff is, its a crock. So, the LS1FC is an ok project, for a 12 second car, stock-built motor, just under $10 grand, I think I'll try it.
I might run One Lap of America next year in the FC, that'd be the best!
The funny thing is, I'll probably daily drive the RX7 more than the CX Hybrid, is that nuts or what?
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Not at all. I was planning to do an Rb25 into 240sx, but, in the end I love the fact that I can make way way more torque and horsepower naturally aspirated with the ls1(and more cost effective mod-wise). I am all about NA!
You should check out http://www.hinsonsupercars.com his FD is running 9's with nothing major, he just built up the FD's rear end to take the power.
You should check out http://www.hinsonsupercars.com his FD is running 9's with nothing major, he just built up the FD's rear end to take the power.
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This looks like it would be an awesome project. Now if I only had more room and money
Maybe in a few years
Maybe in a few years
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That RX7 is simply - SICK!
I was always an RX7 fan but never owned one. My friend is an RX7 freak and has a couple fo them.
Oh It would be so sweet to see a video of that thing in some action...
Anyway, gongrats to your friend and good luck with your new project.
I was always an RX7 fan but never owned one. My friend is an RX7 freak and has a couple fo them.
Oh It would be so sweet to see a video of that thing in some action...
Anyway, gongrats to your friend and good luck with your new project.
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Re: a new understanding of HYBRID ... 1990 Mazda RX7 powered by a 2001 LS1 V8 (owen_the_soyboy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by owen_the_soyboy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its not gonna be dirt cheap but it will be just about on par with my Civic build up, that kills me, I cant effin' believe how high priced Honda stuff is, its a crock. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Ya, I don't think most poeple on here realize how overpriced Honda's are, for what you get. But then again most other cars aren't as popular.
I'm thinking about doing the Contour 3 liter hybrid next. They make about 200hp/200tq and the cars are like $4K for a 99 model, and the engines are only like $500. Plus no one wants to steal it
The Ranger/S10 hybrid has always been on my want list.
Anyways good luck, Miatas are freaking sweat cars, and the RX-7/LS1 swap has always looked cool...after reading wrongmotor.com or whatever I was a believer
Ya, I don't think most poeple on here realize how overpriced Honda's are, for what you get. But then again most other cars aren't as popular.
I'm thinking about doing the Contour 3 liter hybrid next. They make about 200hp/200tq and the cars are like $4K for a 99 model, and the engines are only like $500. Plus no one wants to steal it
The Ranger/S10 hybrid has always been on my want list.
Anyways good luck, Miatas are freaking sweat cars, and the RX-7/LS1 swap has always looked cool...after reading wrongmotor.com or whatever I was a believer
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Westrock2000 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm thinking about doing the Contour 3 liter hybrid next. They make about 200hp/200tq and the cars are like $4K for a 99 model, and the engines are only like $500. Plus <U>no one wants to steal it </U> </TD></TR></TABLE> hey we have a winner for one of the BEST reasons to try other Hybrid platforms... and the #1 reason to not dump too much money into your honda... theft... yikes
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Re: a new understanding of HYBRID ... 1990 Mazda RX7 powered by a 2001 LS1 V8 (owen_the_soyboy)
Anyone have some more info on the contour hybrid. Sounds fun. Like dropping a v-6 into an escort...not that it would be cost efficient but fast and ugly.
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Re: a new understanding of HYBRID ... 1990 Mazda RX7 powered by a 2001 LS1 V8 (owen_the_soyboy)
Just got a ride in a 5.0 liter suprcharged powered RX7.
Its not running all that great right now, but it is pretty sick.
Its not running all that great right now, but it is pretty sick.
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I really wanna do a 240 with and LS1 swap. That **** would be so much fun. Good luck on your project.