drewbie

my tranny is whining at me and I think its because I dont have enough fluid in there. So instead of getting really messy i though I could fill through the VSS. I have heard of people doing this before.

my question is
is it hard? will the bolts be stuck on? is there any trick to taking off and putting the sensor back on?

Im going to ask for a helms for my birthday.
BTW its a SOHC tranny.

Ricey McRicerton

just pop the top fill bolt. That way you are sure you have enough. Just fill it until it overflows.

zigs

I wouldnt I would just fill it through the fill whole. Just park it where its level take the bolt out get a funnel with a piece of hose attached to it and stick it in the fill hole. Then just fill it until it start to run out.

TeamNextGenChris

this past week i tried putting in the fluid thru the VSS hole for the first time.
i still took off the fill hole bolt though,to ensure i properly filled it.i always hated trying to get a funnel with a hose snaked down into the fill hole,and the fluid took forever to drain into the tranny.by taking out the VSS,i could just put a funnel directly in the hole,and the fluid flowed in as fast as i could pour it.i'd definately recommend this method.just don't be lazy-you still need to remove the fill bolt to make sure you fill it to the proper level.
chris

blackeg

ok im gonna go against everyone here and say to fill through the vss. the first time i changed tranny fluid i did it through the vss. its so much easier. take off the2 bolts, pop it off. check to see exactly how much fluid your car takes, and fill it with exactly that amount.(after u drain the old of course). check whatever service manual you use to see the correct amount of fluid. it says u have a sohc tranny, i know for mine (93ex, s20xxxxxx) its 1.8-1.9 quarts. just be careful and it should work fine

drewbie

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TeamNextGenChris &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this past week i tried putting in the fluid thru the VSS hole for the first time.
i still took off the fill hole bolt though,to ensure i properly filled it.i always hated trying to get a funnel with a hose snaked down into the fill hole,and the fluid took forever to drain into the tranny.by taking out the VSS,i could just put a funnel directly in the hole,and the fluid flowed in as fast as i could pour it.i'd definately recommend this method.just don't be lazy-you still need to remove the fill bolt to make sure you fill it to the proper level.
chris</TD></TR></TABLE>

how can you over fill?

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just pop the top fill bolt. That way you are sure you have enough. Just fill it until it overflows.
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I looked for this bolt but I couldnt find it. Maybe I just have too many wires! Or are you talking about the plug on the side of the tranny by the axle?

The Internet Tough Guy

yeah i do mine through the vss. very easy, if you don't have a shop manual to tell you how much (1.8 - 2 qts), take the fill bolt off so you know when you've filled it enough.

go up in the faq thread, the very first link is an axle replacement tutorial which tom did. he shows how to fill it through the vss.

edit: search this forum's archives for tranny fluid. there's a ton.
there's a picture floating around of the drain bolt and fill bolt.
this would also be a great time for you to buy a helms manual. best 70 bucks you'll spend on your car project.

TeamNextGenChris

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how can you over fill?

I looked for this bolt but I couldn't find it. Maybe I just have too many wires! Or are you talking about the plug on the side of the tranny by the axle?
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it's part number 11.
you can overfill by putting too much fluid in the tranny!i don't care what anybody else says,go ahead and remove the fill bolt too,this way you KNOW you've got the right amount of fluid in there.the reason people say it takes 1.8-2 quarts is because it VARIES-hence putting a certain amount in there won't necessarily be the right amount.i know that little variance won't hurt anything,but it's so utterly simple to remove ONE more bolt to make SURE it's right.
chris

drewbie

Thanks that cleared up a lot

B18C5-EH2

Here's where the trick comes in that will save you headahces. Usually you have to ghetto-rig a funnel and tube to fill the tranny in the fill hole which really sucks. My method is really easy.

1. Remove the vent cap found near the front/top of your tranny:



2. Find the Speed sensor located on the topside of the very back of your tranny:



3. Take the 10mm on a big-*** extension and remove the bolt (it's the orangish one in my pic - yours probably won't be oragnish):





4. Now see that big-*** hole left after you move the speed sensor out of the way? Use the funnel and fill through that hole! By the way, no need to unplug the speed sensor - just move it out of the way.





5. Fill up with specified amount or until fluid dribbles from the fill hole below.



6. Put the speed sensor back in, tighten up the fill plug (if you loosened it).

7. Replace the vent cap and you're done!

drewbie

cool thanks. but what is the reason for removing the vent cap if it already has a hole in it? or is that just an illusion?

B18C5-EH2

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr. Teal &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cool thanks. but what is the reason for removing the vent cap if it already has a hole in it? or is that just an illusion?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The hole is small. I pop off the cap so it can vent just as quickly as I pour.

never_finish

now that was some good tech shiz there. i hated when i ghetto rigged a water hose and did it that way. looks easier and cleaner.

Smith Wise

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C5-EH2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">5. Fill up with specified amount or until fluid dribbles from the fill hole below.</TD></TR></TABLE>

what's the point of doing it that way if you still removed the fill bolt?

ChadB

I had to take out the speed sensor to fill my teg trans to.....What a bitch. I whish honda would make it alittle better for us.. Instead we have to play hide and go seek .. Trying to fill this dam thing..

TeamNextGenChris

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what's the point of doing it that way if you still removed the fill bolt?</TD></TR></TABLE>you don't have to snake a hose down to the fill hole,and the fluid seems to flow in much faster this way.
chris

B18C5-EH2

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what's the point of doing it that way if you still removed the fill bolt?</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you know you only need 2.5 qts. then there really isn't a NEED to remove the fill plug, plus as someone else already mentioned it's a bitsh filling through the plug with a long hose on a funnel. You have to pull the hose out as it's already dribbling fluid out of the fill hole, and it's a PITA to do so.

Ricey McRicerton

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C5-EH2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

If you know you only need 2.5 qts. then there really isn't a NEED to remove the fill plug, plus as someone else already mentioned it's a bitsh filling through the plug with a long hose on a funnel. You have to pull the hose out as it's already dribbling fluid out of the fill hole, and it's a PITA to do so.</TD></TR></TABLE>

2.5qts?? I know on my D tranny it's only 1.8. Is the B tranny that much larger?

EDIT: Hell it's only 3.4 on my moms Auto V6 Accord....wow..

B18C5-EH2

Quoting from the 96-00 civic service manual in my lap:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">[b]S4C DOHC tranny Oil capacity:

2.3 US qt. at fluid change
2.4 US qt. at overhaul

S40 SOHC tranny Oil Capacity:

1.9 US qts. at fluid change
2.0 US qts. at overhaul</TD></TR></TABLE>

Also it says when checking fluid pull the fill plug and if the oil level is below the hole, fill until fluid dribbles out of the fill hole.

Usually this is right at or near 2.5 qts. Also keep in mind I've had my tranny rebuilt 3 times snd it's been pulled probably 6 times since I've broken 2 clutch forks too.

My car is currently sitting in a flat stall awaiting a brand new ITR tranny since mine is trashed for the 4th time. I'm also getting rid of the damn clutch disc because IMO that is the cause of the final drive failure every time.

BigZ88

Tom, Tom, Tom.... you need to take it easy on those trannies! SHEESH!

I also have a question that may be related to this. The boot that covers the bitch pin on my shift linkage is always covered in oil. I'm not sure if its tranny or motor...but, THERE IS NO leakage above it or around it from what i can see.... Is it possible to leak out from where the linkage goes into the tranny? Its not a real fast leak, i mean it doesnt get real low on fluid...just enough to keep it lookin wet.... i dont get it..

dremmel

damnit i lost that vent-cap while doing my D15B vtec swap! anybody got a spare? I'm definately filling up the trans thru that blessed hole . great pics btw

TeamNextGenChris

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dremmel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">damnit i lost that vent-cap while doing my D15B vtec swap! anybody got a spare? I'm definately filling up the trans thru that blessed hole . great pics btw</TD></TR></TABLE>
i've got an extra vent cap if you can't find one.PM me if you want it.
also,list price for it from the dealer is like $3.
chris

TABIAS

good info

Sliced Beard

what would happen if you overfilled the tranny

and btw i always use the vss hole, much much easier

xavior66

Nice info. I still go through all the unholy trouble though to fill my tranny through the fill hole, just to be absolutely safe.

But why would Honda make it so hard? Why didn't they just say fill it up via the VSS inlet in the first place? Oh well. Yet another great mystery of life I suppose.