$30 Breather / Catch Can ---- Opinions
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$30 Breather / Catch Can ---- Opinions
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by summit »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Keep overflow off the track.
Black, 1 qt., breather tank
Our black 1 qt. plastic breather tank is just what you need to keep overflow from your power steering or dry sump oiling system off the track. It includes a reusable clamp-on breather, -6 AN inlet fitting, drain valve, plug, and mounting hardware.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I like it for the price, I am just a little worried about the plastic melting. But I guess all the rubber and plastic hoses that the more expensive kits come with probably prove melting will not be an issue. After all it does state in the description "or dry sump oiling system".
This coupled with one or two of these
and some hose and clamps from the local hardware store would make a great and cost effective, functional, non bling breather/catch can setup.
Opinions? I mostly want to hear about the melting issue I fear.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by summit »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Keep overflow off the track.
Black, 1 qt., breather tank
Our black 1 qt. plastic breather tank is just what you need to keep overflow from your power steering or dry sump oiling system off the track. It includes a reusable clamp-on breather, -6 AN inlet fitting, drain valve, plug, and mounting hardware.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I like it for the price, I am just a little worried about the plastic melting. But I guess all the rubber and plastic hoses that the more expensive kits come with probably prove melting will not be an issue. After all it does state in the description "or dry sump oiling system".
This coupled with one or two of these
and some hose and clamps from the local hardware store would make a great and cost effective, functional, non bling breather/catch can setup.
Opinions? I mostly want to hear about the melting issue I fear.
01-03-2004, 03:38 PM
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Re: $30 Breather / Catch Can ---- Opinions (slashDEVslashNULL)
I think you'll be fine if you keep it away from exhaust stuff. If it can hold hot coolant, it will be fine sucking oil vapors. Besides, if your oil vapors get hot enough to melt that, you are definitely having other problems. I'm looking into doing the same thing you are, but I think I want one with more inlets.
01-03-2004, 03:44 PM
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Re: $30 Breather / Catch Can ---- Opinions (Jared)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jared »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but I think I want one with more inlets.</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you find a better one please post it.
I have been looking around comparing prices, though I am sure I have missed something.
My second choice is this Jeg's Aluminum Catch Can:
for $36. But it looks like a lot more modifying needs to be done to it, as it does not have a spot for a breather filter.
If you find a better one please post it.
I have been looking around comparing prices, though I am sure I have missed something.
My second choice is this Jeg's Aluminum Catch Can:
for $36. But it looks like a lot more modifying needs to be done to it, as it does not have a spot for a breather filter.
01-03-2004, 04:10 PM
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Re: $30 Breather / Catch Can ---- Opinions (slashDEVslashNULL)
In the endyn setup, is one of those fittings used for a return? if so, which one? and what do we use to block off the one left where the old black box was?
01-03-2004, 04:20 PM
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Re: $30 Breather / Catch Can ---- Opinions (Jared)
the endyn system uses the driver side block vent for return using a tee on vtec cars and passenger side vent on non B18/20 motors. trust me the kit is the most complete I have ever seen, just buy it from endyn.
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Re: $30 Breather / Catch Can ---- Opinions (Jared)
01-03-2004, 04:25 PM
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Re: $30 Breather / Catch Can ---- Opinions (Jared)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jared »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In the endyn setup, is one of those fittings used for a return? if so, which one? and what do we use to block off the one left where the old black box was?</TD></TR></TABLE>
From here
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bodykitsnw (explaining the endyn setup) »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> The catchcan has 3 nipples. 2 on the side of the catchcan and 1 on the bottom of the catchcan. The 2 nipples on the side of the catchcan are connected to the 2 nipples on the back of the block. The nipple on the bottom of the catchcan is connected to the 1 of those hoses with a T and acts as a drain back system.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Here is a pic:
and here is a diagram:
From here
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by legendboy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You should be able to go to any honda dealer and get a "frost plug" for free. The techs usually just throw them away and they should have some kicking around. If your somewhere that nobody uses a block heater then the parts guy will know the part number for it. </TD></TR></TABLE>
also
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rtype11 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can get the freeze plug at canadian tire, they are behind the counter in automotive, they are like 1.50 each, i wasnt sure so i bought three mtric sizes, think the one that fit was 32mm. or measure the diameter of the pipe that goes in that hole???</TD></TR></TABLE>
From here
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bodykitsnw (explaining the endyn setup) »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> The catchcan has 3 nipples. 2 on the side of the catchcan and 1 on the bottom of the catchcan. The 2 nipples on the side of the catchcan are connected to the 2 nipples on the back of the block. The nipple on the bottom of the catchcan is connected to the 1 of those hoses with a T and acts as a drain back system.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Here is a pic:
and here is a diagram:
From here
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by legendboy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You should be able to go to any honda dealer and get a "frost plug" for free. The techs usually just throw them away and they should have some kicking around. If your somewhere that nobody uses a block heater then the parts guy will know the part number for it. </TD></TR></TABLE>
also
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rtype11 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can get the freeze plug at canadian tire, they are behind the counter in automotive, they are like 1.50 each, i wasnt sure so i bought three mtric sizes, think the one that fit was 32mm. or measure the diameter of the pipe that goes in that hole???</TD></TR></TABLE>
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01-03-2004, 04:32 PM
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Re: $30 Breather / Catch Can ---- Opinions (Jared)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jared »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what about this one:
http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/nc...r=361
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I saw it but I dismissed it because of it's size, but now that I look at it I see it holds a pint, so I guess it would be enough. Plus it has 2 inlets. Thanks for posting it.
But at that price $52.99 it becomes easier for me to justify buying a better one such as the z10
$84.99 for just the tank. I don't know.......
http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/nc...r=361
</TD></TR></TABLE>I saw it but I dismissed it because of it's size, but now that I look at it I see it holds a pint, so I guess it would be enough. Plus it has 2 inlets. Thanks for posting it.
But at that price $52.99 it becomes easier for me to justify buying a better one such as the z10
$84.99 for just the tank. I don't know.......
01-03-2004, 04:34 PM
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Re: $30 Breather / Catch Can ---- Opinions (slashDEVslashNULL)
that's a very imformative picture. Do you still have to run a pcv? How about the valve cover breather,where do you hook it up with that set up? SlashDev?
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Re: $30 Breather / Catch Can ---- Opinions (slashDEVslashNULL)
/dev/null, in the endyn setup pic you posted, what becomes of the valve cover hose?
01-03-2004, 04:46 PM
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Re: $30 Breather / Catch Can ---- Opinions (Jared)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jared »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">/dev/null, in the endyn setup pic you posted, what becomes of the valve cover hose?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I personally am going to run the valve cover to another can with a breather on top of it. (a second can)
But
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bodykitsnw »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can also T the valve cover to 1 of the hoses that connect to the side of the catchcan. OR you can get another catchcan just for the valve cover. That is a little extreme and not needed, but hey whatever you want. It's your money But I do suggest plumbin the valve cover to 1 of those hoses coming from the back of the block.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrdjay107 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Do you still have to run a pcv?</TD></TR></TABLE>
AFAIK, no you do not.
I personally am going to run the valve cover to another can with a breather on top of it. (a second can)
But
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bodykitsnw »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can also T the valve cover to 1 of the hoses that connect to the side of the catchcan. OR you can get another catchcan just for the valve cover. That is a little extreme and not needed, but hey whatever you want. It's your money But I do suggest plumbin the valve cover to 1 of those hoses coming from the back of the block.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrdjay107 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Do you still have to run a pcv?</TD></TR></TABLE>
AFAIK, no you do not.
01-03-2004, 05:34 PM
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Re: $30 Breather / Catch Can ---- Opinions (rtype11)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rtype11 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">trust me the kit is the most complete I have ever seen, just buy it from endyn.</TD></TR></TABLE>
No. I am determined to save a **** load of money by putting together my own. I refuse to pay bloated prices, when I can have THE EXACT SAME FUNCTIONALITY for a fraction of the cost.
Worse case scenario - I get a pickle jar / peanut butter jar / coffee can and jbweld some fittings to it and use some universal a/c filter mesh.......
No. I am determined to save a **** load of money by putting together my own. I refuse to pay bloated prices, when I can have THE EXACT SAME FUNCTIONALITY for a fraction of the cost.
Worse case scenario - I get a pickle jar / peanut butter jar / coffee can and jbweld some fittings to it and use some universal a/c filter mesh.......
01-03-2004, 06:06 PM
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What about an old Evap canister. it's black and pretty much free. My friend made a nice catch can out of one and hid it in the passanger side fender. Id'e say he spent about 10 bucks in brass fittings and 5 in hose. Seems to work well. not sure what he used to baffle it though. might look a little more professional than a Skippy can 
01-03-2004, 06:11 PM
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Re: $30 Breather / Catch Can ---- Opinions (Bailhatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bailhatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What about an old Evap canister. it's black and pretty much free. My friend made a nice catch can out of one and hid it in the passanger side fender. Id'e say he spent about 10 bucks in brass fittings and 5 in hose. Seems to work well. not sure what he used to baffle it though. might look a little more professional than a Skippy can </TD></TR></TABLE>
That is what I am talking about - a little CREATIVITY and thinking could save you loads of cash.
Here are some more ideas:
http://www.tgilmore.com/talon/catchcan.html
http://www.geocities.com/bretq....html
</TD></TR></TABLE>That is what I am talking about - a little CREATIVITY and thinking could save you loads of cash.
Here are some more ideas:
http://www.tgilmore.com/talon/catchcan.html
http://www.geocities.com/bretq....html
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Re: $30 Breather / Catch Can ---- Opinions (slashDEVslashNULL)
what about using an old a/c system liquid canister? its aluminum and could have fittings welded to it easily.
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Re: $30 Breather / Catch Can ---- Opinions (Bailhatch)
Ok I have a question on d series setups. How would I go about running the can? There are no plugs to take off the back and put in the fitting. The only place that you can use is where the black oil sepperator is located. I cant wait to be saving money on do it my self catch can.!
You guys are awsome! 
You guys are awsome!
01-03-2004, 07:58 PM
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Re: $30 Breather / Catch Can ---- Opinions (Bailhatch)
Slashdev,
So you're saying for the setup above one of the lines that run into the side of the catch can will be tee'd off twice? Once for the drain-back system and one for the valve cover?
If you don't want to use two catch cans ofcourse
So you're saying for the setup above one of the lines that run into the side of the catch can will be tee'd off twice? Once for the drain-back system and one for the valve cover?
If you don't want to use two catch cans ofcourse
01-03-2004, 08:43 PM
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Re: $30 Breather / Catch Can ---- Opinions (ghettocrxsi)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ghettocrxsi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok I have a question on d series setups. How would I go about running the can? There are no plugs to take off the back and put in the fitting. The only place that you can use is where the black oil sepperator is located. I cant wait to be saving money on do it my self catch can.!
You guys are awsome! </TD></TR></TABLE>
Either run a line from the stock location or drill and tap the block like this:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Blackack26 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Slashdev,
So you're saying for the setup above one of the lines that run into the side of the catch can will be tee'd off twice? Once for the drain-back system and one for the valve cover?
If you don't want to use two catch cans ofcourse</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, or just T into the other one.
You guys are awsome!
</TD></TR></TABLE>Either run a line from the stock location or drill and tap the block like this:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Blackack26 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Slashdev,
So you're saying for the setup above one of the lines that run into the side of the catch can will be tee'd off twice? Once for the drain-back system and one for the valve cover?
If you don't want to use two catch cans ofcourse</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, or just T into the other one.
01-03-2004, 08:51 PM
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Re: $30 Breather / Catch Can ---- Opinions (slashDEVslashNULL)
Thanks slash. I think I will just take out the black oil sep box and run a line from there and the valve cover to the tank.
01-03-2004, 10:12 PM
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Re: $30 Breather / Catch Can ---- Opinions (ghettocrxsi)
I have a summit catch can like that..
I think im going to try and incorporate some large fittings and weld them to the valve cover, and then use an electric vacuum pump off a VW to power it.
I was reading that there is this camero with quad indy turbochargers, with loads of other stuff..
It uses a vacuum pump setup, and according to the article, it draws up to 20 In/mmg of vacuum in the crankcase!!
I think im going to try and incorporate some large fittings and weld them to the valve cover, and then use an electric vacuum pump off a VW to power it.
I was reading that there is this camero with quad indy turbochargers, with loads of other stuff..
It uses a vacuum pump setup, and according to the article, it draws up to 20 In/mmg of vacuum in the crankcase!!
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Re: $30 Breather / Catch Can ---- Opinions (lazerus)
whats the deal with this pic...goto http://www.fastestfwdstreetcars.com and click the gallery and the first two pics you see have hoses coming out of the front of the valve cover.
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Re: $30 Breather / Catch Can ---- Opinions (lazerus)
Okay Guys, quick question or two. The filter necessary only to bleed off presure Correct? So Could a system that is totally sealed w/ no filter like the one i drew below work fine? The only part that I'm really unsure about is if there is vaccum or pressure in the valvecover, is it relative to the crank case? or should it always be in vaccum?. This will be on a turbo'd car and what I'm thinking is that a one way check valve right at the manifold itself will prevent the whole system from getting pressurized, yet vaccum will work when not in boost. And as far as the valvecover, if it is in vaccum then I would think that it would just relieve more crank case pressure. 
to me it seems as if there would be no problem with this system, it would be similar to a greddy catch can in that it has no breather. but that's what you guys are here for critique if you would be so kind! lol
to me it seems as if there would be no problem with this system, it would be similar to a greddy catch can in that it has no breather. but that's what you guys are here for critique if you would be so kind! lol
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Re: $30 Breather / Catch Can ---- Opinions (Blackack26)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Blackack26 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Slashdev,
So you're saying for the setup above one of the lines that run into the side of the catch can will be tee'd off twice? Once for the drain-back system and one for the valve cover?
If you don't want to use two catch cans ofcourse
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I wouldn't worry about the drain back. You can always let it accumulate in the can, and every oil change or so, just drain it. That is what I will be doing. One nipple will be used for the valvecover and the two barbs on the block will be tee'd together going to the other nipple on the can. Adding a second T to one of the lines for the drain back is always an option as well though.
-Ryan
So you're saying for the setup above one of the lines that run into the side of the catch can will be tee'd off twice? Once for the drain-back system and one for the valve cover?
If you don't want to use two catch cans ofcourse
</TD></TR></TABLE>
I wouldn't worry about the drain back. You can always let it accumulate in the can, and every oil change or so, just drain it. That is what I will be doing. One nipple will be used for the valvecover and the two barbs on the block will be tee'd together going to the other nipple on the can. Adding a second T to one of the lines for the drain back is always an option as well though.
-Ryan