Bent Skunk 2 camber!!!
09-30-2003, 06:27 PM
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Bent Skunk 2 camber!!!
About 2 weeks ago I noticed the camber adjusted all the way out, this way a little bit after I got an alignent with camber and caster adjustment. I could not adjust anymore because the arm is all the way out already. I took it all apart today and saw this!!!
Will this be covered under warranty?
Will this be covered under warranty?
09-30-2003, 06:38 PM
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It appears to me that the height of the car was too low for the spring rate you have. So the A-arm was hitting the shock tower and got bent out of shape.
Just speculation, but one way to verify is to pop the hood and look at your shock towers. Is there any "bumps" or paint chips?
09-30-2003, 11:21 PM
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the thing that gets me the most is that the last time I got the camber adjusted they have to have already been bent and the tech did not say anything, I woudl have noticed them bent or thought it was weird they were maxed out at almost -2 camber when the other side still had a lot of room.
I guess I have to buy a new set
Anyone ever bought just one?
I guess I have to buy a new set
Anyone ever bought just one?
09-30-2003, 11:23 PM
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Actually I have the bumps and chipped paint but that is from before I got the camber kit, so this kit has never hit before. I better make sure on that.
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10-01-2003, 05:51 AM
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Re: Bent Skunk 2 camber!!! (itr206)
super twins- why do you say the alignment place messed up my arms?
How much do the SPC kit cost? Does it adjust the same as teh skunk, I don't like the INgals style, a bitch to adjust.
How much do the SPC kit cost? Does it adjust the same as teh skunk, I don't like the INgals style, a bitch to adjust.
10-01-2003, 07:00 AM
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the SPC kit only adjusts +1.5 to +3 deg, the adjustability on the skunks is more flexible.
Anyone know how good the Mugen kit is, even though it is more expensive...
Anyone know how good the Mugen kit is, even though it is more expensive...
10-01-2003, 07:03 AM
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Re: (Renegade)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Renegade »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes, I have bumps and paint chips.
Is 500 lb springs not stiff enough?</TD></TR></TABLE>
That would be it. If you see small bumps on the shock tower and paint chips, then yeah the arm is hitting it. 500 lbs is ok, depending on how low your car is. I ran 1008 lbs before (18K) and the car was lowered to about 595mm (23.5") from ground to fender lip. The arm hit the shock tower.
But now I have 1120 lbs spring and lowered to 590mm (23.25") and it's working fine.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Renegade »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Actually I have the bumps and chipped paint but that is from before I got the camber kit, so this kit has never hit before. I better make sure on that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I doubt it because the stock upper A-arm is much more compact than the Skunk2 kit.
Is 500 lb springs not stiff enough?</TD></TR></TABLE>
That would be it. If you see small bumps on the shock tower and paint chips, then yeah the arm is hitting it. 500 lbs is ok, depending on how low your car is. I ran 1008 lbs before (18K) and the car was lowered to about 595mm (23.5") from ground to fender lip. The arm hit the shock tower.
But now I have 1120 lbs spring and lowered to 590mm (23.25") and it's working fine.<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Renegade »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Actually I have the bumps and chipped paint but that is from before I got the camber kit, so this kit has never hit before. I better make sure on that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I doubt it because the stock upper A-arm is much more compact than the Skunk2 kit.
10-01-2003, 08:21 AM
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Are you saying that the stock A-arms could not have hit?
I know the stock arms were hitting, because it has been hitting when I hit a hard bump on the road ever since I first got the GC springs and that was over a year ago. The camber kit is fairly new.
My ride height is at 22.75 from the ground to the fender lip. I could go a little higher, I used to ride at 23.5 with 350 spring rate and that is when it would hit with the stock arm.
10-01-2003, 08:27 AM
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actually its like -1.5 to +3, , and thats not enuff for you ? you got bag son your car or something ?
i have thme and they work great for me . like i said they are on all my cars for a reason , we run them on all the street cars and race cars.
i have thme and they work great for me . like i said they are on all my cars for a reason , we run them on all the street cars and race cars.
10-01-2003, 08:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Renegade »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Are you saying that the stock A-arms could not have hit?
I know the stock arms were hitting, because it has been hitting when I hit a hard bump on the road ever since I first got the GC springs and that was over a year ago. The camber kit is fairly new.
My ride height is at 22.75 from the ground to the fender lip. I could go a little higher, I used to ride at 23.5 with 350 spring rate and that is when it would hit with the stock arm.</TD></TR></TABLE>
22.75" from ground to fender lip is LOW! Very low. The diameter of our tire (195/55-15 or 205/50-15) is at about 23.2", which means that you have at least 1/4" of tire tucked inside the fender well. I run over double your spring rate and I still can't go that low.
That can't be good. Your shock was most likely bottoming out, and the upper arms are hitting the shock tower (stock or not cuz it's just way too low). And I have hard time imagining your car would have good handling..... most likely worse than stock.
Are you saying that the stock A-arms could not have hit?
I know the stock arms were hitting, because it has been hitting when I hit a hard bump on the road ever since I first got the GC springs and that was over a year ago. The camber kit is fairly new.
My ride height is at 22.75 from the ground to the fender lip. I could go a little higher, I used to ride at 23.5 with 350 spring rate and that is when it would hit with the stock arm.</TD></TR></TABLE>
22.75" from ground to fender lip is LOW! Very low. The diameter of our tire (195/55-15 or 205/50-15) is at about 23.2", which means that you have at least 1/4" of tire tucked inside the fender well. I run over double your spring rate and I still can't go that low.
That can't be good. Your shock was most likely bottoming out, and the upper arms are hitting the shock tower (stock or not cuz it's just way too low). And I have hard time imagining your car would have good handling..... most likely worse than stock.
10-01-2003, 08:50 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Wai »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
22.75" from ground to fender lip is LOW! Very low.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Holy Cow Dude. That is VERY VERY low. way too low. Wai's car is very low, but his spring rates can handle the load. Raise it or significantly stiffen up the springs/dampers.... if it isn't a track car, i wouldn't recommend 20K springs.
22.75" from ground to fender lip is LOW! Very low.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Holy Cow Dude. That is VERY VERY low. way too low. Wai's car is very low, but his spring rates can handle the load. Raise it or significantly stiffen up the springs/dampers.... if it isn't a track car, i wouldn't recommend 20K springs.
10-01-2003, 09:10 AM
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I can try raising it a bit, I know for sure it will not hit or be less likely to, but I can still have 1 to 1.5 finger gap between the the tire and the fender lip. I only hear it hit when I hit a hard bump on the road never on regular driving or small bumps, By inspecting the springs they are not bottoming out, but I can't say much for the shocks, not really sure.
The only time this car is on the road is when I am on my way to an event othewise it sits at home.
The only time this car is on the road is when I am on my way to an event othewise it sits at home.
10-01-2003, 09:24 AM
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are you sure you have the arms on their respective sides? if you switch the sides you will get more negative(?) caster, but the skunk arms are rumored to have clearance problems like that unless you bang out the sheetmetal.
10-01-2003, 09:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by euclid »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you switch the sides you will get more negative(?) caster</TD></TR></TABLE>
more positive caster.
more positive caster.
10-01-2003, 10:09 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Renegade »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the SPC kit only adjusts +1.5 to +3 deg, the adjustability on the skunks is more flexible.
Anyone know how good the Mugen kit is, even though it is more expensive...</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't think Mugen makes a camber kit, but I know King does.
The Fronts are $225 and the rears are $375
Anyone know how good the Mugen kit is, even though it is more expensive...</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't think Mugen makes a camber kit, but I know King does.
The Fronts are $225 and the rears are $375
10-01-2003, 10:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sackdz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
more positive caster.</TD></TR></TABLE>
more positive caster.</TD></TR></TABLE>
10-01-2003, 10:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IGGY »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I don't think Mugen makes a camber kit, but I know King does.
The Fronts are $225 and the rears are $375</TD></TR></TABLE>
those are nice im need to look in to a camper kit ....
I don't think Mugen makes a camber kit, but I know King does.
The Fronts are $225 and the rears are $375</TD></TR></TABLE>
those are nice
im need to look in to a camper kit ....
10-01-2003, 10:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Spoon1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
those are nice im need to look in to a camper kit ....</TD></TR></TABLE>
Contact Mike at http://www.ipsracing.com he can get them for you.
those are nice
im need to look in to a camper kit ....</TD></TR></TABLE>Contact Mike at http://www.ipsracing.com he can get them for you.