ill_take_one

Guys, i just wanted share some of the photos me and my brother took.

My bro retro'd in some projectors from a BMW 740IL into his 2000 civic SI. Wonderful results. Its honestly impossible for me to describe in words how awesome the output is. Some picts of his:
Front shot, fully warmed up:



After seeing his results, i wanted to do something just like his. I wanted to go a step farther and buy some bi-xenon projectors to keep the high beams. I also have purchased some aftermarket projectors, because the stock headlamps have "fluted" lenses which would cause quite a bit of glare: heres some picts of ONE 2003 bi-xenon projector. We just hooked it up to his ballasts to see what the output would be

The goods:


Startup (new phillips bulbs):


Startup with his colorshifted bulbs:


Fully warmed up (colorshifted bulbs):


Fully warmed up (new bulbs):


Cutoff (only my BI projector. we covered his drivers side headlamp. colorshifted bulb):


All in all, i'm pretty happy with my Bi's. The bulbs have more of a white/yellow color than his colorshifted bulbs (much bluer, hard to tell in picts though). My BI does seem to put out more light (being its probably 20-30mm bigger than his) and more blue/purple when i put one of his colorshifted bulbs in compared to his projectors.

I should get them installed this weekend hopefully, and will get more picts on the road and the cutoff!

Any comments/questions/suggestions would be great!
Thanks for looking!


Modified by ill_take_one at 11:58 AM 10/1/2003

Drews Bitch

great pics. do you think we could get some pics of the housing with the lights off and some more details of the retro fit?


looks good

Trey

Take some close up pics of the headlights with the lights off to show off the projectors install.

Fuster_Cluck

I'm curious to how much the 740's HID cost you.
One day I'll have HID

ill_take_one

Thanks for the complimemts guys. I know ive got a TON more picts of the housings, and my bro's cutoff. I'll get those when i find them!

The Osram ballasts/projectors/and phillips bulbs (out of the BMW 740) cost my bro around $300-$450. I'm not exactly sure. i'll have to ask him later.

My hella bi-xenon projectors/ballasts/phillips bulbs (new) cost me $450 shipped.

Any other questions, just ask away.

Comments are welcome as well!
Thanks guys

6SPD_EK

iTrader: (2)

where did ya get the hella bi xenons for 450.00 - I like to know :D

cjames235

hell yea ive been wanting to do that for a while. please put the pics of the si without the lights on up!! i want to know how he retro'ed them in there too!! nice!!

TuRbEeZy

DAmn those lights look sik!! Anyway did your brother retro fit projectors into his SI?? ALso how do you plan to retro fit those projecotrs you bought into you EX coupe?? I wanted to know how to do it cuz i want to do it on my 92 hatch, but didnt know how to go about doing it.

pdiggitydogg

Id like to see how they light up the road at night...take some pics from inside the car

ill_take_one

Ok, wow i didnt think i'd get this many replies!

My bro's headlights were pretty easy. He bought an extra set of housings (stock) just incase things didnt go as planned. HOnestly, most people wouldnt need extra housings because the installation could be done within a day.
I needed new housings, because the 92-95 civics have FLUTED lenses (with all those lines) So i opted for the projector housings (newer style) because they have clear glass (or plastic?)

Basically, you hvae to take the whole headlamp apart. easiest way is to cook her in the over for about 10 min. (no lie!) then you just have to take the pieces apart. Finally, where the stock bulb would go, you may have to drill out a bigger area so the back of the projector can go through. (this is hard to explain without picts )

Ebay is the place to go for projectors/bulbs/ballasts. I didnt get mine there, i got mine through someguy on another board. My bro did get his off of ebay, and they usually are used which shouldnt be a big deal. Actually for you people who like alot of blue, used bulbs would most likely be better, because they've probably colorshifted. My new philips bulbs obviously havent, because they're new. after about 100-200 hours, most bulbs will start changing more to a whiter/blue color. Right now, with my new bulbs in the BI's, its really white, but there is some yellow.

Bi-xenon projectors can be had for $450 NEW if you find the right guy. i'll try and post some links to good sellers on ebay, and other various sites!

I'll see if my bro still has picts, i think he deleted ALOT of them...
The only problem with my bro's setup, is that he didnt make a shroud to go around the projector itself. Not a huge deal, but id does let some extra light out. mainly light that goes WAY up high. Nothing blinding or glarish (is that a word?). he may opt to build a shroud, but he'd have to take the housing apart again.
He also was thinking about doing these retrofits for a sideproject,,,if anyone is interested let me know!

I'll go picture hunting.

If i missed anyones questions, let me know!
peace

ill_take_one

Here's some more pictures guys. THese are the only old ones i could find. Maybe i'll get him to take some more picts of his cutoff on the ground! It's amazing! ...I'll surely get more up this week when i get my retro done.
Any questions/comments are welcome!!!

His One headlight vs MY halogens! In person, his one light drown out my halogens. pictures NEVER do HID's justice


His 00 SI lights: Notice, no shroud around the projectors to keep the light in . not a HUGE deal though...


Night shot. As you can see from the pict, NO glare!



More to come! let me know what you guys think! Doing it the RIGHT way is the only way to go. Plus the costs involved are not much more than just buying a new hid "kit"./.. something for you guys to think about!
Peace

ill_take_one

Heres a sale on EBAY for BI's,,,just do some searching with "hella projectors" or "BMW projectors" or D2S, etc. THeres plenty of STEALS on that. just make sure you know what you are buying. Asking questions is always a good thing!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...33710

Turbo Powa

How the hell did he fits those in? I'd love to get HIDs on my car but everyone says that the beam patterns suck ***. Can you see if you or your bro can do a write up on this? I'd love to do that mod.... looks very good!

ill_take_one

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Its really easy man. I'll have him write something up under my name. There are some good links out there too, but i'll have to look for them. I honestly think its not as hard as some of you guys think it is! Takes just a little time and creativity.

His projectors were small, and easy to fit in. Mine on the otherhand (the bi's) are about 20-30mm in diameter BIGGER than his. He's got HUGE housings with the SI, and as everyone knows, the EG's are small as hell. I'm really going to have to get creative when i throw those in the New projector housings that should be coming tommorrow.

I've got the whole week of, because i finally am done with my four years of college. so hopefully these projector headlights will be in soon so i can get started!

Keep em coming! and thanks for the compliments as well
Peace

Turbo Powa

Let me know when he writes it up and if you have links post them. I have an extra set of headlights I'd love to experiment on with this mod!!! LOVE THOSE HEADLIGHTS!!!

CIVIC dude

Do you have better pics?? I still cant get a clear idea on how to mount the projectors into the headlight??

More Pics PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks!!

racecarpete

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More Pics PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is exactly the thing for me, the whole and cutting should be easy but how did you secure the projector in the housing? Glue? If you could fill us in it would be great or show us when you do yours, thanks.

ill_take_one

You guys,

I'll try to take step by step picts of when i do mine.

My bro should be posting how he did his whole projector retro.

As far as mounting the projectors goes, he used 3 long screws and i think some jb weld as well. Again, too hard to explain it to you guys, without picts
heres a couple links to start you guys off with!

heres a GREAT place to start:
http://faq.auto.light.tripod.com/


http://faq.auto.light.tripod.c...s.htm

Any other questions, just ask!
Peace guys

ill_take_one

Well, my bro signed up for this webboard, so he'll be on with a bunch more picts tonight, as well as a writeup (hopefully! )

Let me know if you guys have any questoins!

pdiggitydogg

I REALLY REALLY wanna see pics from inside the car @ night...

CIVIC dude

BUMP for more pics

ill_take_one

Well i'm sorry guys. My brother hasnt written anything up, but if you go to that first link i gave you, they show you how INDETAIL and most headlight housings will be somewhat the same as well...


Here's some more picts, i dont think he has any picts of the output on the road... Hopefully soon guys! Sorry about that.

Some more random/old picts:








Well, these aren't the greatest picts...
Hopefully my headlights will come today!!!!
Peace guys!

racecarpete

awesome, more pics please.

ill_take_one

What other picts you want? Just of ground shots?

DOMKID

iTrader: (1)

nice setup you guys got. How hard is the wiring for the lights/what exactly do you have to do to wire them? Did you brother have to adjust his light pattern?