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Old 02-28-2003, 03:38 AM
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Default Clutch Problems: I will give more proof NOT to buy Exedy

This problem began Saturday in my first session on track and prevented me from driving my car all weekend at the talladega event. I was able to bum some rides so it wasn't a total loss. Well I limped it around all week till last night and here is how it went . . . .

Ok, we let's see where to start. First off, beware ofExedy clutches. We took the tranny off last night and we found the Exedy clutch with less than 10,000 miles (and changed Sept 22 at Nopi by the We Todds) was in bad shape. The disc had cracked, the throw out bearing had seperated and the pressure plate was stuck to the clutch disc.

Unfortunately my replacement that had never given me trouble, the OEM unit with 45,000 miles on it had a similar crack but 1) not nearly as bad and 2) They are know to do this which is one reason to go with something else. We were in a jam so we put the OEM disc back in with plans to contact the place I bought the clutch from and see what they are willing to do for me. With a little luck I can get a credit and get an ACT or something other than Exedy.

Here are some pics of the damage:

Notice the FLAT spring


The CRACK (Sorry this one is not as clear as I would like)


You can see the crack pretty well here on the rightmost spring


See the silver ring on the PP fingers from the spring dragging?


The Throwout Bearing



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Damn dude sorry to hear your troubles with the Exedy unit. I have had great success with mine and i love it
Old 02-28-2003, 03:50 AM
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Damn dude sorry to hear your troubles with the Exedy unit. I have had great success with mine and i love it
I said the same thing to others like Smitdog not more than a month ago.

Just don't be surprised.
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Trey - get the clutchmasters stage 3 clutch/pp. You've seen me drive & I already have ~25,000 miles on my combo.
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I'm glad I didn't go with an EXEDY unit
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I'm glad I didn't go with an EXEDY unit
I am as well. It really sucks to see something like that.

[edit- did the the throwout bearing come apart on its own?? ]



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Yeah me and my mechanic took my tranny apart last weekend to put back in my stock Type R 5th gear (had GS-R in there) w/ my JDM FD. The clutch looked great. Nothing wrong with it at all. I am overall happy with it thus far

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Old 02-28-2003, 05:27 AM
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sucky. I guess its true that parts break, but it seems Exedy has more problems than most
Old 02-28-2003, 05:29 AM
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Default Re: Clutch Problems: I will give more proof NOT to buy Exedy (EleanoR)

Hmmm...that's a little disturbing. An excedy clutch pooping out at 10K. I've had mine for 4k w/ no problems yet.
shrugs...
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Hmmm...that's a little disturbing. An excedy clutch pooping out at 10K. I've had mine for 4k w/ no problems yet.
shrugs...
Luck of the draw man. Cross your fingers and hold on for the ride.

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clammit,
i was about to get me the Exedy, but maybe I'll just stick go w/ stock again

yshi - who liked his stock clutch till it got soft lately (53K mi)
Old 02-28-2003, 06:51 AM
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Trey isnt the first with these problems from what Ive seen.

I guess in the end, you get what you pay for. I was told a long long time ago by a wise, small Japanese man to avoid them, and Im glad I did!

Who did you get it from Trey? Exedy has to stand by their product in this case and offer something, thats terrible.
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Trey isnt the first with these problems from what Ive seen.

I guess in the end, you get what you pay for. I was told a long long time ago by a wise, small Japanese man to avoid them, and Im glad I did!

Who did you get it from Trey? Exedy has to stand by their product in this case and offer something, thats terrible.
Nick,

I got it rom http://www.clutchcityonline.com

I have spoken with them and they were super cool about it. My wife is taking it to the post office as we speak and he said he thought Exedy woudl warranty it. I explained I would be hesitant to put another one inmy car and he said they woudl trade me the new Exedy kit for a kit they sold that i wanted.

I will make a seperate post following up but expect a good post about their service.

Thanks to Dave at R&D for offering some support as well.

These Expo sponsors ROCK!
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Default Re: Clutch Problems: I will give more proof NOT to buy Exedy (newgsrdriver)

Interesting. We have sold quite a few Exedys and even ran that setup last year in Yacks H1 car. Who did you get the unit from? They are good about standing behind their product. Shoot me a call.
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Default Re: Clutch Problems: I will give more proof NOT to buy Exedy (newgsrdriver)

Trey isnt the first with these problems from what Ive seen.

I guess in the end, you get what you pay for. I was told a long long time ago by a wise, small Japanese man to avoid them, and Im glad I did!

Who did you get it from Trey? Exedy has to stand by their product in this case and offer something, thats terrible.
i'm going to guess he bought it from clutchcityonline.com like most people i know that bought one.. mine has about 10k on it and I suspect it's going to look a lot like trey's does when it comes out in a couple weeks.. it's a piece of crap.. let us know what happens when dealing with exedy/daiken/clutchcity..

mine was installed in August.. smitdog's was installed in November(if I remember correctly).. all have had problems within 6 months.. not a good sign..

clutchmasters here i come.. i just hope my flywheel hasn't been damaged..

edit: glad to hear clutchcity is being cool about it.. what do they carry that you are going to replace it with? hopefully i can work out a similar arrangement..


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Default Re: Clutch Problems: I will give more proof NOT to buy Exedy (FAST4DR)

Interesting. We have sold quite a few Exedys and even ran that setup last year in Yacks H1 car. Who did you get the unit from? They are good about standing behind their product. Shoot me a call.
Dave was Yacks an ORgainc Street disk? I have "heard" that the street disk is not early as well made as the more exspensive race/performance pieces.

Anyone have input?
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Organic...although, we did poor Coors Light on it before and during install...
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Organic...although, we did poor Coors Light on it before and during install...
I woudl have thought the we todss woudl have thought of this during the install at Nopi .

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This is a EASY one! You installed the unit improperly. There is an installation sheet with every unit! Your bearing was traveling too far against the plate fingers. It would have taken all of 30 seconds to fix. Notice the obvious wear on the inside of the plate. That is why the spring and your bearing are trashed. I will be glad to send you a copy of the installation sheet. You should have noticed this the first time you drove the vehicle!
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This is a EASY one! You installed the unit improperly. There is an installation sheet with every unit! Your bearing was traveling too far against the plate fingers. It would have taken all of 30 seconds to fix. Notice the obvious wear on the inside of the plate. That is why the spring and your bearing are trashed. I will be glad to send you a copy of the installation sheet. You should have noticed this the first time you drove the vehicle!
i'm pretty sure trey and the we-todd install helpers knew about this.. this is a well discussed quirk of the exedy clutches.. besides, smitdog and I both performed the adjustments on ours and still have had lots of problems..
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Default Re: Clutch Problems: I will give more proof NOT to buy Exedy (mike@coximport.com)

This is a EASY one! You installed the unit improperly. There is an installation sheet with every unit! Your bearing was traveling too far against the plate fingers. It would have taken all of 30 seconds to fix. Notice the obvious wear on the inside of the plate. That is why the spring and your bearing are trashed. I will be glad to send you a copy of the installation sheet. You should have noticed this the first time you drove the vehicle!
You sure are a GREAT internet mechanic.

We installed it, we had not PP noise issues and STILL made a minor adjustment to prevent this from happening. Are we still to blame? Can we blame any of this on the fact 90% of all Exedys need adjustment?

Tell D, Jack, Fyrstarter and Aspenny too since they helped. They all suck!
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I see the wear. Bearing travel was too much. Adjustment is CRUCIAL. Did you notice any grinding when the pedal was all the way depressed? Most of the Exedys we have installed require the adjustment - I would say at least 90% of them.
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This is a EASY one! You installed the unit improperly.

ERRRRRNT. wrong answer. thanks for playing.

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I see the wear. Bearing travel was too much. Adjustment is CRUCIAL. Did you notice any grinding when the pedal was all the way depressed? Most of the Exedys we have installed require the adjustment - I would say at least 90% of them.
Thanks for asking Dave. . .

Nope, no grinding but having been tipped off by Ausmith and equiped with great step by step instructions we made a slight adjustment to compensate for the known problem.
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Ok...then its all Ds fault...pretty boy must not have gotten enough sleep on his Aero bed!!! I will OWN that BED at the EXPO!!!!!


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