se93

What are the gear ratios for this transmission? Is it a 4.26 final drive like the other H22a transmissions? This information seems very difficult to get a hold of.

Has to be for the 1999-2001 H22A powered ATR.

anyone?

Thanks,
mark


[Modified by se93, 10:02 AM 12/25/2002]

VTI

I think it's available at:

http://www.honda.co.uk

se93

There is very little information there and it only applies to the 2003 Accord. I need the ATR from 1999-2001. I don't know if there was an ATR in 2002.

mark

NONKonformyst

I would love to get a hold of that info too. Isn't the ATR final drive a lot longer?

se93

I am thinking that maybe the final drive from this transmission is higher than the normal 4.26 found on all other H22a transmissions. Does anyone have a reliable source that can provide the correct information regarding this? Also, in the Sport Compact car article back in August, they said it had 10-17% shorter gearing, which is what i want to know as well. I'd rather get a hold of a complete transmission with shorter gearing and higher FD, than spend the money on just a final drive.

Anyone?

Downey

just by looking in gran turismo it says is a 3.000 which is really crappy. i should know in a few months what it really is.

satan_srv

Euro-R tranny code is T2W4, that's all I can tell you so far.

se93

Thanks Joel. Someone told me its not a 4.26 final drive but higher than that. How much, well i was not told.

satan_srv

Accord Type-R Gear Ratios

1st - 3.285
2nd - 2.090
3rd - 1.481
4th - 1.071
5th - 0.870
Reverse - 3.000
Final - 4.266

1st gear is same as a 5th gen, 2nd and 3rd gear is pretty nice. There is nothig special about the final drive.

se93

Joel:

So the Euro R and Accord Type R use different gear ratioed transmissions?

satan_srv

Euro-R Tranny:

1st: 3.285 61km/h (7400rpm => 4708rpm) [64km/h (7800rpm => 4963rpm)]
2nd 2.090 96km/h (7400rpm => 5244rpm) [101km/h (7800rpm => 5527rpm)]
3rd 1.481 135km/h (7400rpm => 5351rpm) [142km/h (7800rpm => 5640rpm)]
4th 1.071 187km/h (7400rpm => 5610rpm) [197km/h (7800rpm => 5913rpm)]
5th 0.812 246km/h [259km/h]
Final 4.266
They are the same


[Modified by satan_srv, 11:30 PM 12/25/2002]

se93

Thanks Joel. I guess the only added benefit of the Euro R tranny is the helical LSD and the beefed up synchros.

Thanks for the christmas gift! (the gear ratio info)

satan_srv

Well 2nd and 3rd gear are better than even 4th gen ratios

.2090 vs .1956
.1481 vs. .1360


[Modified by satan_srv, 11:35 PM 12/25/2002]

se93

"Well 2nd and 3rd gear are better than even 4th gen ratios"

Yes, that is true. I might as well stay with my tranny and maybe later on do the 4.714 final drive and maybe modify 2nd and 3rd gears to make it more interesting.

satan_srv

Final drive would be good for a drag car, but other than that it would make the car undriveable

se93

Joel:

Could we say that with a 4.714 FD in an H22A it could somewhat compare to an ITR with the 4.785 FD? Sun Dang had the 4.714 FD in his 1998 Prelude and loved it.

satan_srv

I think 4.7 is waaaaaay too much for an H22a if you ever drive on the highway...

I look at it like this...look at the ITR gear ratios...they are super close to Euro-R and ATR ratios....and FD is 4.2666

1st 3.230
2nd 2.105
3rd 1.428
4th 1.107
5th 0.848
Reverse 3.000
Final Drive 4.400

It has a 4.4 final drive stock...which I guess people put to 4.7...

I guess you could...but I think driveability would suck.

HotWheelz

how do you get replacement syncros' for jdm trannys and how much are they...

???

DaMasteR

I like the ratio's

YodiBrodi

damn good question dude. i'm gonna add a bit to it but i've wondered that for a while now too, ever since a buddy had his t56 rebuilt and added carbon kevlar sychros in place of stock. does anybody make anything like that for our trannies (i say our but my future tranny with the swap this summer). before the ITR came across the ocean they used to race those 4th gens so you'd think there would be but i never hear anything about them. better yet stronger shift forks. why did they ever put brass in there in the first place? too soft


[Modified by YodiBrodi, 6:18 AM 1/13/2003]

KCHybrid

Back from the dead,

I have come across a spare h22a tranny with a shot second gear that cost me nothing to pick up. I was thinking about rebuliding it to be pretty beffy in addition to swaping out the 4th gen gears (which are shot) with the ATR stuff. Any one know where I could order the gear sets? Try a jdm importer or otherwise? Also on the synchro question I would like to know if any one has found any thing stronger than the stock stuff. For that matter other than the varrious lsd's out on the markets for the H tranny does any one make aftermarket stuff to drop in the gearbox?

satan_srv

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I have come across a spare h22a tranny with a shot second gear that cost me nothing to pick up. I was thinking about rebuliding it to be pretty beffy in addition to swaping out the 4th gen gears (which are shot) with the ATR stuff. Any one know where I could order the gear sets? Try a jdm importer or otherwise? Also on the synchro question I would like to know if any one has found any thing stronger than the stock stuff. For that matter other than the varrious lsd's out on the markets for the H tranny does any one make aftermarket stuff to drop in the gearbox?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't think all the gears are swappable like that...some, not all

ATR = UK
Euro-R = JDM

KCHybrid

Some have claimed that the vtec h gears are swapable with other vtec H gears but it ends there. So basicly the best setup it seems would be to have the full atr/euror gears since the FD are the same according to these specs I found at H22a.org

(H22a) 1)3.307 2)1.950 3)1.360 4)1.071 5)0.871 FD) 4.266
ATR/Euro R 1)3.285 2)2.090 3)1.481 4)1.071 5)0.870 FD) 4.266

Granted the above numbers could be worng, I didnt have much time to search due to only being able to do a quick check this early in the monring at work.

KCHybrid

Well I just reliazed that 5th gear seems to be differnt between the atr and euro r from the above numbers. Looks like the Euro R is better off for a "short" 5th gear.

satan_srv

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Those numbers aren't right. The 5th ratios are different but the euro-r the one I have is .812, type-s 5th gear. Nice and long for that highway cruising...I can hit 160mph...if I wanted to.

I thought at least the 1st gear was part of the shaft?