Honest Personal Review of SSAC XSPower t3/t4 and customer service
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Honest Personal Review of SSAC XSPower t3/t4 and customer service (pics and vids) BEWARE 56k
This is an honest, unbiased, first-hand, personal evaluation of the SSAutochrome/XSPower T3/T4 .50 A/R cold .63 A/R Hot 57 trim Stage 3 wheel Internal waste gate with V-Band housing Turbocharger. It was used for 6 months and roughly 6000 miles on a Del Sol (full interior street car on 16” street tires) with a stock JDM H22 (10.6:1) with a Kiwi Ramhorn manifold, 550cc injectors, meth/water injection, tuned on ECTune (93 octane).
My first impression is that it was well packaged and arrived to me undamaged. There was no shaft play and everything moved freely. I really liked how the V-Band discharge housing, V-Band adapter, V-Band clamp, oil gaskets, and exhaust gasket were included. Installation went well, no different from any other oil-cooled T3. I used conventional 10w30 for the first 3000 miles. That day I ran the car through a couple of pulls, and noticed that at 5500 RPM the boost level was 15psi. This was alarming as the information on the turbo said the waste gate was set for 6psi. After checking over the operation of the actuator and attempting to adjust it, to no effect, I removed the turbo to have a look at the discharge port. I noticed that the discharge port looked smaller than any one I have ever seen on a Garrett unit. It was only about half the size of the flapper valve. I used this opportunity to test out SSAC’s customer service. I emailed them on a Monday, and received a response on Wednesday. I responded to that message, and received another follow up the same day. On a side note (not to be associated with their customer service because I have the owner of XSPower’s cell number) I contacted the owner about the problem and he gave me his word that he contacted his manufacturer and got the discharge port issue fixed, but I have not seen a new unit so you may want to contact them about it if you were ever to be interested in ordering one. I immediately took the whole turbocharger next door to the machine shop to have the discharge port enlarged. I had it stepped up to SLIGHTLY smaller than the flapper valve itself. I also had them notch out the inside of the housing to allow the flapper to swing out another few degrees. While this may have been ineffective it was covered within the minimum shop fee of $25. I reinstalled the turbo and found it to now hold 9psi all the way to 7000 RPM. This was still a far cry from the 6psi that the info said, but just fine for my application. We got it to the dyno that next day and it put down 326WHP @ 9psi @ 7000 RPM on a very conservative tune (the car is daily driven and daily abused). Full boost came on right around 3500 RPM and had enough breath all the way to redline which was a pleasant combination. We then took it to the track and it pulled a 13.1 @ 115 with NO traction until 4th gear. The car was then driven almost daily over the next 6 months and the turbo was periodically inspected. After 3 months and roughly 3000 miles I inspected it to find no leaks, no shaft play, and no oil burn. I changed the oil to Redline Synthetic, raised the boost to 12psi with an MBC, and headed back to the dyno. Still on a conservative tune, the car put down 379WHP @12psi @ 7000 RPM. Another 3 months and 3000 miles of daily driving go by and I inspect the turbo again. Again I find no leaks (now with synthetic oil), no shaft play, and no oil burn. The turbo still spools fully around 3500 RPM, and boost is unrelenting until 7000 RPM.
AT THIS POINT, I would personally recommend this unit to anyone who is putting together a boosted project on a limited budget. I am aware of all of the complaints and issues that are associated with SSAC and XS turbos, but I honestly feel like many if not most of them can be filed under user/installer error or hearsay (the same few incidents over and over). I feel like most of the problems that do occur (8/10) to any brand turbocharger are the fault of the installer, but just more likely to occur with the lower priced units because they are more often part of an inexperienced person’s first project, and or a person is likely to do way more homework if he just dropped $800+ on a turbo. A couple of the best examples of these errors would first be running synthetic oil during the first 3000 miles. A conventional oil “break in” is required on any turbocharger of any brand, and if not done will kill the seals quickly on any of those units. Another is an insufficient or misrouted drain, again will ruin any turbo. What I can say for certain is that this review is 100% unbiased, 100% accurate, and 100% from my own personal experience on one of my own vehicles. If you have made it this far, I would like to thank you for reading, if you already have a feeling of disdain for SSAC, SXPower, or any of the other “cloned” turbos, please keep them to yourself or start a new thread. This thread and this review pertains to 1 SSAC turbocharger on 1 project of which only 3 H-T members have seen, driven, and worked on which leaves them the only ones qualified to comment on this unit’s performance, installation, and reliability. Thanks again for reading, I hope this helps someone! I will update this post every 3 months or so after an inspection and report here immediately if it starts leaking, burning, or if it croaks or grenades!
***UPDATE 7/7/08***
Another 3 months, another 2000 miles, and another 20 track passes. Everything is still perfect, no shaft play, no leaks, no oil burning...
Right after installation in September 07
At the track 9psi, shitty video sorry its the only one
On a back road trying to feather it 9psi
At the dyno 9psi
Six months later after charge pipe re-vamp and 12psi
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My first impression is that it was well packaged and arrived to me undamaged. There was no shaft play and everything moved freely. I really liked how the V-Band discharge housing, V-Band adapter, V-Band clamp, oil gaskets, and exhaust gasket were included. Installation went well, no different from any other oil-cooled T3. I used conventional 10w30 for the first 3000 miles. That day I ran the car through a couple of pulls, and noticed that at 5500 RPM the boost level was 15psi. This was alarming as the information on the turbo said the waste gate was set for 6psi. After checking over the operation of the actuator and attempting to adjust it, to no effect, I removed the turbo to have a look at the discharge port. I noticed that the discharge port looked smaller than any one I have ever seen on a Garrett unit. It was only about half the size of the flapper valve. I used this opportunity to test out SSAC’s customer service. I emailed them on a Monday, and received a response on Wednesday. I responded to that message, and received another follow up the same day. On a side note (not to be associated with their customer service because I have the owner of XSPower’s cell number) I contacted the owner about the problem and he gave me his word that he contacted his manufacturer and got the discharge port issue fixed, but I have not seen a new unit so you may want to contact them about it if you were ever to be interested in ordering one. I immediately took the whole turbocharger next door to the machine shop to have the discharge port enlarged. I had it stepped up to SLIGHTLY smaller than the flapper valve itself. I also had them notch out the inside of the housing to allow the flapper to swing out another few degrees. While this may have been ineffective it was covered within the minimum shop fee of $25. I reinstalled the turbo and found it to now hold 9psi all the way to 7000 RPM. This was still a far cry from the 6psi that the info said, but just fine for my application. We got it to the dyno that next day and it put down 326WHP @ 9psi @ 7000 RPM on a very conservative tune (the car is daily driven and daily abused). Full boost came on right around 3500 RPM and had enough breath all the way to redline which was a pleasant combination. We then took it to the track and it pulled a 13.1 @ 115 with NO traction until 4th gear. The car was then driven almost daily over the next 6 months and the turbo was periodically inspected. After 3 months and roughly 3000 miles I inspected it to find no leaks, no shaft play, and no oil burn. I changed the oil to Redline Synthetic, raised the boost to 12psi with an MBC, and headed back to the dyno. Still on a conservative tune, the car put down 379WHP @12psi @ 7000 RPM. Another 3 months and 3000 miles of daily driving go by and I inspect the turbo again. Again I find no leaks (now with synthetic oil), no shaft play, and no oil burn. The turbo still spools fully around 3500 RPM, and boost is unrelenting until 7000 RPM.
AT THIS POINT, I would personally recommend this unit to anyone who is putting together a boosted project on a limited budget. I am aware of all of the complaints and issues that are associated with SSAC and XS turbos, but I honestly feel like many if not most of them can be filed under user/installer error or hearsay (the same few incidents over and over). I feel like most of the problems that do occur (8/10) to any brand turbocharger are the fault of the installer, but just more likely to occur with the lower priced units because they are more often part of an inexperienced person’s first project, and or a person is likely to do way more homework if he just dropped $800+ on a turbo. A couple of the best examples of these errors would first be running synthetic oil during the first 3000 miles. A conventional oil “break in” is required on any turbocharger of any brand, and if not done will kill the seals quickly on any of those units. Another is an insufficient or misrouted drain, again will ruin any turbo. What I can say for certain is that this review is 100% unbiased, 100% accurate, and 100% from my own personal experience on one of my own vehicles. If you have made it this far, I would like to thank you for reading, if you already have a feeling of disdain for SSAC, SXPower, or any of the other “cloned” turbos, please keep them to yourself or start a new thread. This thread and this review pertains to 1 SSAC turbocharger on 1 project of which only 3 H-T members have seen, driven, and worked on which leaves them the only ones qualified to comment on this unit’s performance, installation, and reliability. Thanks again for reading, I hope this helps someone! I will update this post every 3 months or so after an inspection and report here immediately if it starts leaking, burning, or if it croaks or grenades!
***UPDATE 7/7/08***
Another 3 months, another 2000 miles, and another 20 track passes. Everything is still perfect, no shaft play, no leaks, no oil burning...
Right after installation in September 07
At the track 9psi, shitty video sorry its the only one
On a back road trying to feather it 9psi
At the dyno 9psi
Six months later after charge pipe re-vamp and 12psi
Modified by oneludesol at 11:02 AM 4/7/2008
Modified by oneludesol at 11:14 AM 4/7/2008
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Modified by oneludesol at 11:35 AM 4/7/2008
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Re: Honest Personal Review of SSAC XSPower t3/t4 and customer service (mike@synapse motorsport)
LOLZ from a Garrett distributor... Imagine that 
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Re: Honest Personal Review of SSAC XSPower t3/t4 and customer service (oneludesol)
Did you use an oil restrictor on this turbo?
Some of these turbo's survive. I don't think people say that every single one fails, but the failure rate is pretty high. You just got one that was on the good side is all. These turbo's have been disassembled by many, and the flaws and lack of quality control is obvious.
Glad it worked for you though...it's better than buying it and having it sh*t the bed right off the bat like so many have experienced.
Speaking from my personal contact with the turbo's, I've tuned about 5 cars in the past year with that turbo and all five failed before winter hit. Two of them only lasted about a month before seizing, and the other three started sh*tting oil after a couple months of use.
By the way...any chance you can ditch that front bumper
Some of these turbo's survive. I don't think people say that every single one fails, but the failure rate is pretty high. You just got one that was on the good side is all. These turbo's have been disassembled by many, and the flaws and lack of quality control is obvious.
Glad it worked for you though...it's better than buying it and having it sh*t the bed right off the bat like so many have experienced.
Speaking from my personal contact with the turbo's, I've tuned about 5 cars in the past year with that turbo and all five failed before winter hit. Two of them only lasted about a month before seizing, and the other three started sh*tting oil after a couple months of use.
By the way...any chance you can ditch that front bumper
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RC000E »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Did you use an oil restrictor on this turbo?
Some of these turbo's survive. I don't think people say that every single one fails, but the failure rate is pretty high. You just got one that was on the good side is all. These turbo's have been disassembled by many, and the flaws and lack of quality control is obvious.
Glad it worked for you though...it's better than buying it and having it sh*t the bed right off the bat like so many have experienced.
Speaking from my personal contact with the turbo's, I've tuned about 5 cars in the past year with that turbo and all five failed before winter hit. Two of them only lasted about a month before seizing, and the other three started sh*tting oil after a couple months of use.
By the way...any chance you can ditch that front bumper </TD></TR></TABLE>
HOLY **** that sucks... do you know if any of them were using synthetic from the first day? by the way im not using a restrictor. LOL that is the only urethane aftermarket they make for it and im not done ramming **** so until then its staying on and unpainted
Some of these turbo's survive. I don't think people say that every single one fails, but the failure rate is pretty high. You just got one that was on the good side is all. These turbo's have been disassembled by many, and the flaws and lack of quality control is obvious.
Glad it worked for you though...it's better than buying it and having it sh*t the bed right off the bat like so many have experienced.
Speaking from my personal contact with the turbo's, I've tuned about 5 cars in the past year with that turbo and all five failed before winter hit. Two of them only lasted about a month before seizing, and the other three started sh*tting oil after a couple months of use.
By the way...any chance you can ditch that front bumper
</TD></TR></TABLE>HOLY **** that sucks... do you know if any of them were using synthetic from the first day? by the way im not using a restrictor. LOL that is the only urethane aftermarket they make for it and im not done ramming **** so until then its staying on and unpainted
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HOLY **** that sucks... do you know if any of them were using synthetic from the first day? by the way im not using a restrictor. LOL that is the only urethane aftermarket they make for it and im not done ramming **** so until then its staying on and unpainted </TD></TR></TABLE>
No synthetic users out of any of them. All installs were appropriate.
There's a nice from bumper you can get for that car from Honda. Amazing how nice a clean stock front bumper can be with a nice lip bro.
HOLY **** that sucks... do you know if any of them were using synthetic from the first day? by the way im not using a restrictor. LOL that is the only urethane aftermarket they make for it and im not done ramming **** so until then its staying on and unpainted
</TD></TR></TABLE>No synthetic users out of any of them. All installs were appropriate.
There's a nice from bumper you can get for that car from Honda. Amazing how nice a clean stock front bumper can be with a nice lip bro.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by oneludesol »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LOLZ from a Garrett distributor... Imagine that </TD></TR></TABLE>
Ever wonder why we sell and use Garrett turbos? There are other turbos we could make more money on if that was what we were about, but we're not. There are only 2 companies we would sell Garrett and Borg Warner. They have great results and are proven reliable.
You even admitted yourself from the factory you had a turbo that wouldn't hold less than 15psi due to a manufacturing flaw. How did that pass their quality control? Nevermind they dont have quality control, they dont give a ****. That could have easily blown your motor. XS/SSAC is not going to fix this or any manufacturing issues. That would cut into their margins. they make their money because they keep manufacturing costs down. they have no quality control, and cheap tooling, oh and dont forget the 10 cent an hour 7 year old putting it together.. They undercut the competitor. they sell you a cheap product. you get what you can expect from a 200 dollar turbo.
It's great that you come on here and give your opinion, but to say you think everyone is installing these wrong is outrageous.
Also your wastegate actuator is capped off any reason you did this?
note: You said all brand turbos require a break in period. there is no such break in for Garrett turbos.
Modified by mike@synapse motorsport at 4:19 PM 4/7/2008
</TD></TR></TABLE>Ever wonder why we sell and use Garrett turbos? There are other turbos we could make more money on if that was what we were about, but we're not. There are only 2 companies we would sell Garrett and Borg Warner. They have great results and are proven reliable.
You even admitted yourself from the factory you had a turbo that wouldn't hold less than 15psi due to a manufacturing flaw. How did that pass their quality control? Nevermind they dont have quality control, they dont give a ****. That could have easily blown your motor. XS/SSAC is not going to fix this or any manufacturing issues. That would cut into their margins. they make their money because they keep manufacturing costs down. they have no quality control, and cheap tooling, oh and dont forget the 10 cent an hour 7 year old putting it together.. They undercut the competitor. they sell you a cheap product. you get what you can expect from a 200 dollar turbo.
It's great that you come on here and give your opinion, but to say you think everyone is installing these wrong is outrageous.
Also your wastegate actuator is capped off any reason you did this?
note: You said all brand turbos require a break in period. there is no such break in for Garrett turbos.
Modified by mike@synapse motorsport at 4:19 PM 4/7/2008
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike@synapse motorsport »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Ever wonder why we sell and use Garrett turbos? There are other turbos we could make more money on if that was what we were about, but we're not. There are only 2 companies we would sell Garrett and Borg Warner. They have great results and are proven reliable.
You even admitted yourself from the factory you had a turbo that wouldn't hold less than 15psi due to a manufacturing flaw. How did that pass their quality control? Nevermind they dont have quality control, they dont give a ****. That could have easily blown your motor. XS/SSAC is not going to fix this or any manufacturing issues. That would cut into their margins. they make their money because they keep manufacturing costs down. they have no quality control, and cheap tooling, oh and dont forget the 10 cent an hour 7 year old putting it together.. They undercut the competitor. they sell you a cheap product. you get what you can expect from a 200 dollar turbo.
It's great that you come on here and give your opinion, but to say you think everyone is installing these wrong is outrageous.
Also your wastegate actuator is capped off any reason you did this?
note: You said all brand turbos require a break in period. there is no such break in for Garrett turbos.
Modified by mike@synapse motorsport at 4:19 PM 4/7/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ok, lets first get something straight... I am NOT trying to sell turbos, you are. I don't care what you sell and why, this thread is not about synapse, Garrett, or Borg, this thread is an account of a period in which I have been using an SSAC turbo and only applies to the exact unit that is bolted to my car. That is all. I never said I think EVERYONE is installing them wrong, but I still do believe that many failures can be linked to error. I do believe that error is more likely to occur in the lower price range products because that is where most people begin, inexperience is a bitch, that is not an outrageous concept.
You are making it sound like I am trying to create some sort of image for SSAC or repair their good name, when that is not at all the case. I committed to make an unbiased, accurate account of my experience using the product, and that is all I did. When you say that I "admitted" that they had a manufacturing flaw, you make it sound like its my product that I am trying to defend or something. Just wait, if something does go wrong with it, it will be posted right here, with pics, and a description of just what happened to it.
Please keep this thread informative and don't turn it into some kind of pissing contest or in your case an opportunity to advertise. I am not going to defend SSAC's products, but I am going to defend my thread and my review as it is 100% accurate.
I don't care where they are manufactured, I don't care by who, I don't care how.... again that is not what this thread is about. Start something in general discussion if you wish to inform people of those details.
My wastegate actuator is not capped off that is a bleed port that I am not using (you should know this if you sell turbos) which brings me to question your saying that garrett turbos do not need a conventional oil break-in. I will admit, I don't know about their BB turbos, but you can bet you *** that ALL of the Journal bearing units require the break-in, in fact thats who I learned it from.
Ever wonder why we sell and use Garrett turbos? There are other turbos we could make more money on if that was what we were about, but we're not. There are only 2 companies we would sell Garrett and Borg Warner. They have great results and are proven reliable.
You even admitted yourself from the factory you had a turbo that wouldn't hold less than 15psi due to a manufacturing flaw. How did that pass their quality control? Nevermind they dont have quality control, they dont give a ****. That could have easily blown your motor. XS/SSAC is not going to fix this or any manufacturing issues. That would cut into their margins. they make their money because they keep manufacturing costs down. they have no quality control, and cheap tooling, oh and dont forget the 10 cent an hour 7 year old putting it together.. They undercut the competitor. they sell you a cheap product. you get what you can expect from a 200 dollar turbo.
It's great that you come on here and give your opinion, but to say you think everyone is installing these wrong is outrageous.
Also your wastegate actuator is capped off any reason you did this?
note: You said all brand turbos require a break in period. there is no such break in for Garrett turbos.
Modified by mike@synapse motorsport at 4:19 PM 4/7/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ok, lets first get something straight... I am NOT trying to sell turbos, you are. I don't care what you sell and why, this thread is not about synapse, Garrett, or Borg, this thread is an account of a period in which I have been using an SSAC turbo and only applies to the exact unit that is bolted to my car. That is all. I never said I think EVERYONE is installing them wrong, but I still do believe that many failures can be linked to error. I do believe that error is more likely to occur in the lower price range products because that is where most people begin, inexperience is a bitch, that is not an outrageous concept.
You are making it sound like I am trying to create some sort of image for SSAC or repair their good name, when that is not at all the case. I committed to make an unbiased, accurate account of my experience using the product, and that is all I did. When you say that I "admitted" that they had a manufacturing flaw, you make it sound like its my product that I am trying to defend or something. Just wait, if something does go wrong with it, it will be posted right here, with pics, and a description of just what happened to it.
Please keep this thread informative and don't turn it into some kind of pissing contest or in your case an opportunity to advertise. I am not going to defend SSAC's products, but I am going to defend my thread and my review as it is 100% accurate.
I don't care where they are manufactured, I don't care by who, I don't care how.... again that is not what this thread is about. Start something in general discussion if you wish to inform people of those details.
My wastegate actuator is not capped off that is a bleed port that I am not using (you should know this if you sell turbos) which brings me to question your saying that garrett turbos do not need a conventional oil break-in. I will admit, I don't know about their BB turbos, but you can bet you *** that ALL of the Journal bearing units require the break-in, in fact thats who I learned it from.
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Amazing how nice a clean stock front bumper can be with a nice lip bro.</TD></TR></TABLE>
My H2B del sol is going to be nice and clean, Ill look you up when its done
Amazing how nice a clean stock front bumper can be with a nice lip bro.</TD></TR></TABLE>
My H2B del sol is going to be nice and clean, Ill look you up when its done
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To the OP, NICE POST! ! ! 
Very informative!
You'd better get everything into it that you can though, before "PrecisionH23a" locks it on you. He has apparently decided that there just isn't any benefit to anyone from discussing off-brand turbos (or maybe any of the off-brand equipment?), so he just locks the threads.
To be clear, I have a name brand turbo, and I'm not currently thinking of buying anything, but I do enjoy reading about peoples' experiences with the Chinese turbos and such.
Again, good post! Thanks!
Very informative!You'd better get everything into it that you can though, before "PrecisionH23a" locks it on you. He has apparently decided that there just isn't any benefit to anyone from discussing off-brand turbos (or maybe any of the off-brand equipment?), so he just locks the threads.
To be clear, I have a name brand turbo, and I'm not currently thinking of buying anything, but I do enjoy reading about peoples' experiences with the Chinese turbos and such.
Again, good post! Thanks!
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my precision turbo has been going strong with zero problems for a year and a half on synthetic oil from day two...so you can throw that **** you just gargled up out the window!
my precision turbo has been going strong with zero problems for a year and a half on synthetic oil from day two...so you can throw that **** you just gargled up out the window!
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my precision turbo has been going strong with zero problems for a year and a half on synthetic oil from day two...so you can throw that **** you just gargled up out the window!</TD></TR></TABLE>
http://www.boostplanet.com/new_page_2.htm
Read it... first link in google, took me .000000000125 seconds to find. Im not making **** up. You got LUCKY
Modified by oneludesol at 7:52 PM 4/7/2008
my precision turbo has been going strong with zero problems for a year and a half on synthetic oil from day two...so you can throw that **** you just gargled up out the window!</TD></TR></TABLE>
http://www.boostplanet.com/new_page_2.htm
Read it... first link in google, took me .000000000125 seconds to find. Im not making **** up. You got LUCKY
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am i the only one who understood the point of this thread?
everyone knows a guy who knows a guy who had one **** the bed.
or had one that has been running for 100x miles or whatever the case is. this guy wanted to make as unbiased of a review as he could. which i might add was 99.9999% better than the other
xs power turboz are layme as hell yo!>#@$ jaydm foo
it was a well written and documented review of a turbo that most likley helped or will help some kids on here that dont have 400bucks for a precision or something like that.
obviously garrett and precision are better. this wasnt what it was about. this was just a honest review of a product he used.
remember there is an *** for every seat so people will buy them for their own personal reasons. (money is tight, winter beater projects, ect..)
im not going to buy one because i put $$$ in my setup im not gonna take a chance on one of these. but for the daily beater coupe i wouldnt hesitiate. hell i paid 200$ for the whole car
nice review and i give you props for being as honest as possible. i hope it helps someone out on here
everyone knows a guy who knows a guy who had one **** the bed.
or had one that has been running for 100x miles or whatever the case is. this guy wanted to make as unbiased of a review as he could. which i might add was 99.9999% better than the other
xs power turboz are layme as hell yo!>#@$ jaydm foo
it was a well written and documented review of a turbo that most likley helped or will help some kids on here that dont have 400bucks for a precision or something like that.
obviously garrett and precision are better. this wasnt what it was about. this was just a honest review of a product he used.
remember there is an *** for every seat so people will buy them for their own personal reasons. (money is tight, winter beater projects, ect..)
im not going to buy one because i put $$$ in my setup im not gonna take a chance on one of these. but for the daily beater coupe i wouldnt hesitiate. hell i paid 200$ for the whole car
nice review and i give you props for being as honest as possible. i hope it helps someone out on here
04-07-2008, 06:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by oneludesol »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
http://www.boostplanet.com/new_page_2.htm
Read it... first link in google, took me .000000000125 seconds to find. Im not making **** up. You got LUCKY
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you may think youre not making **** up but they are..
ive never "broken in" any turbo and never had a problem with any of them....but i only buy quality turbos.
just like you have gotten lucky with your ssautoshit turbo? for a awhole 6,000 miles ewww wow
http://www.boostplanet.com/new_page_2.htm
Read it... first link in google, took me .000000000125 seconds to find. Im not making **** up. You got LUCKY
</TD></TR></TABLE>
you may think youre not making **** up but they are..
ive never "broken in" any turbo and never had a problem with any of them....but i only buy quality turbos.
just like you have gotten lucky with your ssautoshit turbo? for a awhole 6,000 miles ewww wow
04-07-2008, 07:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xfrankx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">am i the only one who understood the point of this thread?
everyone knows a guy who knows a guy who had one **** the bed.
or had one that has been running for 100x miles or whatever the case is. this guy wanted to make as unbiased of a review as he could. which i might add was 99.9999% better than the other
xs power turboz are layme as hell yo!>#@$ jaydm foo
it was a well written and documented review of a turbo that most likley helped or will help some kids on here that dont have 400bucks for a precision or something like that.
obviously garrett and precision are better. this wasnt what it was about. this was just a honest review of a product he used.
remember there is an *** for every seat so people will buy them for their own personal reasons. (money is tight, winter beater projects, ect..)
im not going to buy one because i put $$$ in my setup im not gonna take a chance on one of these. but for the daily beater coupe i wouldnt hesitiate. hell i paid 200$ for the whole car
nice review and i give you props for being as honest as possible. i hope it helps someone out on here</TD></TR></TABLE>
everyone knows a guy who knows a guy who had one **** the bed.
or had one that has been running for 100x miles or whatever the case is. this guy wanted to make as unbiased of a review as he could. which i might add was 99.9999% better than the other
xs power turboz are layme as hell yo!>#@$ jaydm foo
it was a well written and documented review of a turbo that most likley helped or will help some kids on here that dont have 400bucks for a precision or something like that.
obviously garrett and precision are better. this wasnt what it was about. this was just a honest review of a product he used.
remember there is an *** for every seat so people will buy them for their own personal reasons. (money is tight, winter beater projects, ect..)
im not going to buy one because i put $$$ in my setup im not gonna take a chance on one of these. but for the daily beater coupe i wouldnt hesitiate. hell i paid 200$ for the whole car
nice review and i give you props for being as honest as possible. i hope it helps someone out on here</TD></TR></TABLE>
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike93eh2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
you may think youre not making **** up but they are..
ive never "broken in" any turbo and never had a problem with any of them....but i only buy quality turbos.
just like you have gotten lucky with your ssautoshit turbo? for a awhole 6,000 miles ewww wow</TD></TR></TABLE>
That is not where I got my information from, I was merely pointing you toward a quick source.
I dont care what you have or have not done with your turbos. People sleep around and dont wear a rubber... some get sick, some dont... does that mean the concept of wearing a hat is rubbish? (as much as it may suck
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Maybe I did get lucky with my turbo, but as I stated again and again, this review is for the one and only single unit currently bolted to my car, which has not failed, and aside from the discharge port in the very beginning has been great... And yes 6000 miles is something to say "ewww wow" about since every negative post about these turbos says they blow up within the first couple hundred miles or month.
you may think youre not making **** up but they are..
ive never "broken in" any turbo and never had a problem with any of them....but i only buy quality turbos.
just like you have gotten lucky with your ssautoshit turbo? for a awhole 6,000 miles ewww wow</TD></TR></TABLE>
That is not where I got my information from, I was merely pointing you toward a quick source.
I dont care what you have or have not done with your turbos. People sleep around and dont wear a rubber... some get sick, some dont... does that mean the concept of wearing a hat is rubbish? (as much as it may suck
)Maybe I did get lucky with my turbo, but as I stated again and again, this review is for the one and only single unit currently bolted to my car, which has not failed, and aside from the discharge port in the very beginning has been great... And yes 6000 miles is something to say "ewww wow" about since every negative post about these turbos says they blow up within the first couple hundred miles or month.
04-07-2008, 07:53 PM
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i'm not trying to stir anything up, but my precision turbo is doing well some 70k miles later and with synthetic.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by oneludesol »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I dont care what you have or have not done with your turbos. People sleep around and dont wear a rubber... some get sick, some dont... does that mean the concept of wearing a hat is rubbish? (as much as it may suck )
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and we care what you have done with your xspower turbo ???
does that mean the concept of spending just a little more money for a quality turbo that is going to last 60,000, 100,000, etc. miles rubbish? you can buy used garretts/etc. for the same price you paid for your xspower and still last longer.
I dont care what you have or have not done with your turbos. People sleep around and dont wear a rubber... some get sick, some dont... does that mean the concept of wearing a hat is rubbish? (as much as it may suck
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and we care what you have done with your xspower turbo ???
does that mean the concept of spending just a little more money for a quality turbo that is going to last 60,000, 100,000, etc. miles rubbish? you can buy used garretts/etc. for the same price you paid for your xspower and still last longer.
04-07-2008, 08:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike93eh2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
and we care what you have done with your xspower turbo ???
does that mean the concept of spending just a little more money for a quality turbo that is going to last 60,000, 100,000, etc. miles rubbish? you can buy used garretts/etc. for the same price you paid for your xspower and still last longer.</TD></TR></TABLE>
you must care, you are in this thread...
the concept of quality is not the question here... in fact there is no question... I dont know why you are wasting your time? It was a product review. Im so sorry it didnt fail yet... Please dont be mad at me for this, be mad at the turbo. Even better, we will be mad at the turbo together. GRRRR [freak]in turbo FAIL ALREADY so I have something pleasing to add to the review and calm everyone down!
By the way, I got the turbo for free, and even better.... I removed a genuine garrett to put this one on. That is how serious I am about this evaluation.
and we care what you have done with your xspower turbo ???
does that mean the concept of spending just a little more money for a quality turbo that is going to last 60,000, 100,000, etc. miles rubbish? you can buy used garretts/etc. for the same price you paid for your xspower and still last longer.</TD></TR></TABLE>
you must care, you are in this thread...
the concept of quality is not the question here... in fact there is no question... I dont know why you are wasting your time? It was a product review. Im so sorry it didnt fail yet... Please dont be mad at me for this, be mad at the turbo. Even better, we will be mad at the turbo together. GRRRR [freak]in turbo FAIL ALREADY so I have something pleasing to add to the review and calm everyone down!
By the way, I got the turbo for free, and even better.... I removed a genuine garrett to put this one on. That is how serious I am about this evaluation.
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how dare you run that turbo
its against the law on h-t
just like people who run rotas instead of spoon wheels.
your car made close to 400whp on a ebay turbo
thats pretty crazy in itself
its against the law on h-t
just like people who run rotas instead of spoon wheels.
your car made close to 400whp on a ebay turbo
thats pretty crazy in itself
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I stand corrected on the matter for now... That information was given to me by the owner of CMR Turbo in Tampa, he is unarguably one of the most reputable, and best turbocharger rebuilders in Florida. The garrett page was still a little vague as it may be referring to how you drive the car during the first few miles and they may have simply not considered using conventional oil a break-in, nonetheless, I feel like it would still have been included in the faq's, so it is good enough for me right now.
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Regardless SSAC is a **** product, I dont give a damn what anybody else thinks. The use products that roll out of sweat shops and move them to stupid people that have no clue what they are doing. Have fun supporting that. 
BTW I like your front bumper, its a perfect match for your Turbo choice.
BTW I like your front bumper, its a perfect match for your Turbo choice.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 96 GSR-T »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Regardless SSAC is a **** product, I dont give a damn what anybody else thinks. The use products that roll out of sweat shops and move them to stupid people that have no clue what they are doing. Have fun supporting that.
BTW I like your front bumper, its a perfect match for your Turbo choice.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by oneludesol »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am aware of all of the complaints and issues that are associated with SSAC and XS turbos, but I honestly feel like many if not most of them can be filed under user/installer error or hearsay</TD></TR></TABLE>
the only problem i had with the OP's statement was that he thinks these turbos in general are not bad, and that everyone is just installing them wrong. that is just flat out not true.
you said you are only talking about your exact turbo and your experience but in reality you took your experience with one turbo, and related it to the entire line of ebay turbos. Im glad you are having a great experience and endorse the product but lets not make general statements about their entire line of turbos based on one result.
I'm looking at Garrett's installation cards that come with the turbos, and it says nothing of break in, or special oiling requiring the use of non-synthetic oil. They do have pre oiling instructions, but no comments are made to the type of oil, simply engine oil. First you said you learned it from Garrett, then you linked boost planet, and now you say CMR, which one is it?
BTW I like your front bumper, its a perfect match for your Turbo choice.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by oneludesol »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am aware of all of the complaints and issues that are associated with SSAC and XS turbos, but I honestly feel like many if not most of them can be filed under user/installer error or hearsay</TD></TR></TABLE>
the only problem i had with the OP's statement was that he thinks these turbos in general are not bad, and that everyone is just installing them wrong. that is just flat out not true.
you said you are only talking about your exact turbo and your experience but in reality you took your experience with one turbo, and related it to the entire line of ebay turbos. Im glad you are having a great experience and endorse the product but lets not make general statements about their entire line of turbos based on one result.
I'm looking at Garrett's installation cards that come with the turbos, and it says nothing of break in, or special oiling requiring the use of non-synthetic oil. They do have pre oiling instructions, but no comments are made to the type of oil, simply engine oil. First you said you learned it from Garrett, then you linked boost planet, and now you say CMR, which one is it?