jeffy

how many people in the area would be interested in something like this? i know they have a few programs that are similar but we could try to set this up a little differently. im all for the positive action for racers. ive been thinking on the idea for a while and was considering trying to get things together to try and get something sorted on the subject. how much interest would people have in racing at the track, no stage, no boards, kinda pinks style but not gay. it would allow for a little movement on the line for setting people out and what not, and then nobody would have to be scared their times would get seen (like you cant just paint a big NT on your window.) this would also cut down on the manpower needed from the track, nobody to operate the timing equipment and what not. it would have to be a substantial amount of people interested to get them to do it. alot of bugs in it but they could be worked out maybe.

where is some insiders at? whats the chances of getting this done? i would love to help any way i can to give the street racers a place to go and do their thing and not have any more incidents like this past weekend. ive been going over this in my head for months but i think now would be a good time to try and pull some support.

Just a thought, post up your opinions. lets try to keep it positive and make something out of it thoug.

Newt Dog

Sounds like a good idea to me! Maybe jason Miller can chime in with some idea's!

twophastprelude

Id be interested in it.


maybe somehow make it have something to do with the people that died from the local street racing that just happend

jeffy

exactly! i was hoping miller would put some ideas out there and be our link to the inside. i started brainstorming this by myself months ago when i crashed my car and was thinking alot about my purpose in the world. this recent tragedy just inspired me to get more input and progress on it. its good to see that some locals would be into it. im sure there would also be some local shops willing to sponsor the night if necessary. JOE where you at, would tempest get in on this? Brauning in VA, Autofab? i used to work there and i think theres another guy here that currently works there. not too sure about some of the other northern shops, they would all prob pref. to see it at capital but i dont see the owner there going for it.

Velocity.Motorsports

great idea hopefully some more locals could chime in, i'm sure the turnout could be good if we opened it up to all kinds of cars and got it organized well.

Turbo-charged

MIR has something like this already that has a good turn out.

there would be a lot of details that would need to be addressed. i'd be down to help however i could

HarfordCTR

Cecil County Dragway you can run your car any Friday night. 20 bucks. Sorry, didn't read carefully. They do use the tree and all

jeffy

well lilke joe said, MIR already has something similar but its only what 1 or 2 times a year. and they also have midnight madness which is a bracket racing deal every friday night for about the same price. how does the gamblers night actually work, i never came out for that. did they use the tree? the optimal street replication would be no tree (hand flagger picked by the racers) no board at all (therefore no slips for anybody that night) and stay open late like 3-4 am late (only if the crowd is there of course, obviously wont stay open for 5-10 people to stand around and run their mouths) all of these things except for the late thing would cut down on the usual cost of operation for the track i would assume, and therefore leave the racers with a smaller entrance fee. i would much rather pay 5-10$ for a guarantee at a night of races, than drive to whereever and hope the cops dont break it up or have something terrible happen, get a ticket that cost 50$ and up, whatever.

keep it going folks the more input we have the better the chances it could happen. its good to see some local help popping up so quick, Tempest is good people.

tricura

They should do a weekly Wednesday or Thursday night grudge racing event. We would be down to help promote it.

Jason Miller

I would be willing to try it, but we would need to draw a few hundred cars and nearly 1000 people for it to work for us. It seems that most people want a timing system to tell them how fast they went. Do you think that many people would really want to just run up and down by an arm drop and not get a timeslip all night? And would the spectators be happy not seeing times on a scoreboard? Whenever we do "no times", we get ALOT of complaints from spectators that they dont get to see times, and they dont pay admission for it.

I am all for trying new things, but in reality will this work?

Jason Miller

I cant run events every Wednesday or Thursday night. I can do some during the year, but not every week. We put in 90-100 hours every week here, and we still dont have time to promote all the other events we do. Running 3 events (Fri, Sat, Sun) is hard enough for now. Sorry guys. I try to run one Wednesday night a month right now.

Also our spectators and local racers will just start picking what days they come and it will dillute the other days more.

underpressure02

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I am all for trying new things, but in reality will this work?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Have you ever seen how many people show up at the No Time Nationals? It is huge. I think if you can keep the price down you would get a great turn out. I have been waiting to do this for a few years up here at Maple Grove but with no luck. Good to see Jason it willing to try out something new.

Jason Miller

At the no time nationals they dont even give the racers a timeslip?

underpressure02

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They do but they rip it in down the middle so you can not see what the other car runs

twophastprelude

if you gave out time slips wouldnt you need the tree to run races.

Maybe a good sponce for this would be mothers againts drunk driving, or some street racing orgs. The more people to sponcer and support it the easy it would be for the track to let it happen. Sounds like a great idea to me. Itwould just be getting the word out on the street racing level to draw all them to the track.

underpressure02

check out RASR http://www.rasr.info/

h22 civic

NTN best event ever aside from the orlando world fastest street car shoot out!!i got my room and ticket reserved already

jeffy

this is great, thanks for getting in on this jason. this could absolutely work, personal opinion of course. i have been posting up on all the forums i am a member of and if everybody here posted a link to other car forums they are members of it would get faster exposure. if the price was low enough people would be all over it. i dont think it should start out as more than once a month. if it was advertised as a no time event and explained that there would be no boards (maybe just a win light if its possible) then there shouldnt be any complaints. the people that would be there for racing and for spectating would be there to see cars race, and get their wager on.

like i said im spreading the word (STRICTLY AS AN IDEA!) for now, if the interest is there i would try to get a tally together on number of vehicles that would come out for it. we can go from there, but i will def. let everybody know that MIR is for it if it would work.

mx621

MIR is like 2+ hours for me, but i would come to an event like this. i love the **** talking of street racing and all that, but the streets are so dangerous.

it would work if it was a street car only event and was backed by shops and or organizations. charge 10 for spectators, 15-20 to run. do the event like once a month or so to keep the anticipation high for each event. MIR could create a furom to line up races and so everyone could comunicate and orginize prior to the event. possibly set cars up in groups/classes like at imports vs. domestics.

an event like this would cause only positive attention, possible the local news, papers, etc. especially after the DC accident..

jeffy

the 210 accident is half of what is inspiring me to do this, the other half being my near fatal car accident. the street is dangerous and i have too many friends that just wont give it up. i think the majority of people would like to see the price be more like 5$ for spectators and 10$ to race. as far as classes and what not, i dont think it will work. the excitement of street racing is the lies and **** talking that go into it. putting people in classes kinda takes away the mystery of some vehicles and they wont be able to talk people into a race. i dont think "it has to be street car" will work either. how many times have you been out to the street races to watch some trailered cars run? ive seen it alot.

the forum thing is a good idea too. you can get some talk goin on before you get there to speed things up a bit. good input so far guys keep it comin.

b.series

-the forum thing is a great idea, because u could setup races like people already do!!!
-running with a flagger is not going to happen!!!!! so maybe u could have a special race for a delayed tree so a person could get a jump of 1 second, half a sec etc..
-and the thing about splitting timeslips is perfect that way no one knows your time.
-even though people usually gather everyweekend not everyone always comeout so every two weeks or once a month would be perfect, because people would plan around the event.
-so far the price that eveyone noted would be pretty reasonable.
everyone has great input keep it comin

mx621

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jeffy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the 210 accident is half of what is inspiring me to do this, the other half being my near fatal car accident. the street is dangerous and i have too many friends that just wont give it up. i think the majority of people would like to see the price be more like 5$ for spectators and 10$ to race. as far as classes and what not, i dont think it will work. the excitement of street racing is the lies and **** talking that go into it. putting people in classes kinda takes away the mystery of some vehicles and they wont be able to talk people into a race. i dont think "it has to be street car" will work either. how many times have you been out to the street races to watch some trailered cars run? ive seen it alot.

the forum thing is a good idea too. you can get some talk goin on before you get there to speed things up a bit. good input so far guys keep it comin.</TD></TR></TABLE>

MIR is there to make money, 5-10 bucks would not motivate them to do the event. i have seen many cars trailered to street races up in philly were i used to roam, so yea i do agree with you on that know that i think about it. i bet if a program worked for MIR other tracks would adopt the format. the forum will almost be a must. thier is a local street racing forum were i live and it always organizes meets and brings people/cars. MIR could plan the event as a trial, if it pulls a crowd and is worth the tracks time and money it could then turn into a scheduled event. as far as the hole flagging/tree thing it might have to be a preference of those racing, hard to tell. ive seen some big money races too, how would that work, if at all?? this is intresting stuff, deff good for the scene to.

Velocity.Motorsports

street car or mild race which is of course difficult to segregate would be the best honestly. no high budget shop cars or anything like that just the **** that everyone loves and hates about building their cars, back to the roots haha . The industry needs boosts like this promoting the fun and excitement of street racing without the danger of it. I'm sure any shop would be down to do this, it promotes business for us as the shops and retailers, and brings new life into the scene. I would love to be a part of organizing something like this and making it more mainstream. The key to organizing something like this which can be hard is organization and commitment. Hopefully there are enough people to get this going and someone who can step forward and take the lead organizing these local shops and people to get this event going.

jeffy

im working on some non-profit organization things to get fundind to maybe help keep the costs down at the track. i need to hear from jason what prices will and absolutely will not work, i know it will all depend on the amount of people showing up. i dont know why a flagger cant work, maybe a risk thing? as far as trees and NT's on the window just for a ticket, who cares!? if your at a street race you dont get a slip right? if they have to give you a slip thats 2 more people that the track would have to pay to work that night (increasing the cost for racers). MIR would absolutely be starting it off as a trial event unless the funding was there and contracted to be there for long enough to put it on the schedule for any amount of time.

if i havent said it yet, please, if you are a member of other forums post a link to this on them. the more info we can get the better, and i would also like to start getting an idea of how many people would be interested in an event like this. i am also going to be trying to get a count of how many people that are regular street racers would instead go to this venue if given the choice. all of this info is going to help make this a reality so lets keep it going.

thanks for the support so far guys.

jeffy

ps. shop car or not bring it on. if somebody wants to race the shop car and thinks they can beat em with their backyard build, more power to em. thats the best thing about street racing is the underdog running off with a pile of money, the high dollar shop car going home a loser and all the in betweens. im already trying to organize things a bit but like i said its still just in brainstorm phase right now. ill let evryone know when im ready to get a list of shops, a list of participants, and all the other necessary items for making it happen.