Dyno Test: T1 Intercooler vs. PWR Intercooler
08-24-2007, 10:33 AM
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Dyno Test: T1 Intercooler vs. PWR Intercooler
set up:
84mm GSR Block
Edelbrock intake manifold
full race divided top mount
mazworx turbo cams
STOCK port cylinder head w/ springs and retainers
aem ems
4 inch downpipe and exhaust
Gt4294r 1.15 housing
outside temperature is about 27 degrees hotter outside right now than last time the car was on the dyno. nothing other than the intercooler has changed since the last time.
once we got in the ballpark of 600 horsepower on the old intercooler, no matter what we did with the boost, power didnt go up. the car just felt like there was a restriction. put the T1 intercooler on, and as the boost went up, the power went up as it was suposed to.
VE with the old intercooler went down drastically after about 6000-6500rpm. with the new intercooler VE is back to normal.
boost was being ramped up with RPM on this graph, so it appears to have a slower spool but that is the boost controller. peak boost was about 39psi...something is up with the boost control and its not holding very steady at higher boost. maybe its backpressure from the stock cylinder head? who knows.
unfortunatly this isnt a very "offical" test, no IAT log datta or anything like that. at the end of the day its good proof that the T1 intercooler not only looks amazing, but works very well too.
we will try to post some pictures up soon.
84mm GSR Block
Edelbrock intake manifold
full race divided top mount
mazworx turbo cams
STOCK port cylinder head w/ springs and retainers
aem ems
4 inch downpipe and exhaust
Gt4294r 1.15 housing
outside temperature is about 27 degrees hotter outside right now than last time the car was on the dyno. nothing other than the intercooler has changed since the last time.
once we got in the ballpark of 600 horsepower on the old intercooler, no matter what we did with the boost, power didnt go up. the car just felt like there was a restriction. put the T1 intercooler on, and as the boost went up, the power went up as it was suposed to.
VE with the old intercooler went down drastically after about 6000-6500rpm. with the new intercooler VE is back to normal.
boost was being ramped up with RPM on this graph, so it appears to have a slower spool but that is the boost controller. peak boost was about 39psi...something is up with the boost control and its not holding very steady at higher boost. maybe its backpressure from the stock cylinder head? who knows.
unfortunatly this isnt a very "offical" test, no IAT log datta or anything like that. at the end of the day its good proof that the T1 intercooler not only looks amazing, but works very well too.
we will try to post some pictures up soon.
08-24-2007, 10:45 AM
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Re: Dyno Test: T1 Intercooler vs. PWR Intercooler (Turbo-charged)
Were the intercooler cores the same size? That would be a fair comparison. We run a PWR intercooler and it seems to be working for us. Our core size is 24x2.875X11 but we do have plans to fit a bigger core when we get the chance.
Modified by PHDZINE at 12:40 PM 8/24/2007
Modified by PHDZINE at 12:40 PM 8/24/2007
08-24-2007, 11:04 AM
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Re: Dyno Test: T1 Intercooler vs. PWR Intercooler (PHDZINE)
Can you get the specs from Tony on that thing? Lbs per min, at what pressure loss and what efficiency would be good info to know. It looks like it made a big difference on your car and knowing Tony it is a nice intercooler.
Nice numbers. Was that on there for Indy?
Nice numbers. Was that on there for Indy?
08-24-2007, 11:08 AM
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Re: Dyno Test: T1 Intercooler vs. PWR Intercooler (turbodano)
I believe the old intercooler was the Full Race/PWR 20x11x3?
The T1 intercooler is the 24x12x3.5 Garrett core with custom end tanks. I don't have any details about the core, i imagine that information is available from Garrett's site.
The T1 intercooler is the 24x12x3.5 Garrett core with custom end tanks. I don't have any details about the core, i imagine that information is available from Garrett's site.
08-24-2007, 11:23 AM
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Re: Dyno Test: T1 Intercooler vs. PWR Intercooler (tony1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I believe the old intercooler was the Full Race/PWR 20x11x3?
The T1 intercooler is the 24x12x3.5 Garrett core with custom end tanks. I don't have any details about the core, i imagine that information is available from Garrett's site.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Looks like that thing flows around 65lbs a min at 1.00 psi drop. It being a Honey Well core it is very efficient. Not a bad intercooler for that power level at all.
The T1 intercooler is the 24x12x3.5 Garrett core with custom end tanks. I don't have any details about the core, i imagine that information is available from Garrett's site.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Looks like that thing flows around 65lbs a min at 1.00 psi drop. It being a Honey Well core it is very efficient. Not a bad intercooler for that power level at all.
08-24-2007, 11:49 AM
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Re: Dyno Test: T1 Intercooler vs. PWR Intercooler (SPOOLINmatt)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SPOOLINmatt »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i guess that T1 signature in the end tank is good for something. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Kinda like buying a Maytag.
Kinda like buying a Maytag.
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08-24-2007, 11:51 AM
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Re: Dyno Test: T1 Intercooler vs. PWR Intercooler (turbodano)
just to clarify.....this is a friend/customer car, not my own personal car.
i use the same core on my car with differnt style end tanks. thanks for the help on my end tank design tony
i use the same core on my car with differnt style end tanks. thanks for the help on my end tank design tony
08-24-2007, 03:08 PM
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Re: Dyno Test: T1 Intercooler vs. PWR Intercooler (SpeedDreamz.com)
do things right the first time and maybe you wont have to spend more just to fix it later.
Nice numbers with just upgrading the IC.
T1
Nice numbers with just upgrading the IC.
T1
08-24-2007, 03:22 PM
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Re: Dyno Test: T1 Intercooler vs. PWR Intercooler (rip94delsol)
sorry tony according to h-t the pwr is the best intercooler... 
hahahahaha nice plate and welds and helping the industry move forward bump for t1
hahahahaha nice plate and welds and helping the industry move forward bump for t1
08-24-2007, 04:19 PM
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Re: Dyno Test: T1 Intercooler vs. PWR Intercooler (Camp1320motorsports)
i thinks as long as you have a t1 somewhere on your car it will improve reguardless what you get from him...lol true story
08-24-2007, 04:22 PM
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Re: Dyno Test: T1 Intercooler vs. PWR Intercooler (MrParks)
lol, you guys should see the dyno results from my vacuum blocks! I'd post them, but they'd probably get outlawed in all the sportsman classes!
08-24-2007, 04:24 PM
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Re: Dyno Test: T1 Intercooler vs. PWR Intercooler (tony1)
maybe i should put a sticker on my trnas so it would work right, or hold up... testing again at irwindale thurs.... miss palmdale already. 
08-25-2007, 10:15 AM
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Re: Dyno Test: T1 Intercooler vs. PWR Intercooler (tony1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol, you guys should see the dyno results from my vacuum blocks! I'd post them, but they'd probably get outlawed in all the sportsman classes! </TD></TR></TABLE>
Post them i still havent bought a vacumm block yet...
Post them i still havent bought a vacumm block yet...
08-25-2007, 12:45 PM
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Re: Dyno Test: T1 Intercooler vs. PWR Intercooler (tony1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My online store should be live in about a week and everything will be on there. 
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T1 going worldwide.
</TD></TR></TABLE>T1 going worldwide.
08-25-2007, 02:17 PM
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Re: Dyno Test: T1 Intercooler vs. PWR Intercooler (tony1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My online store should be live in about a week and everything will be on there. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Awsome!
</TD></TR></TABLE>Awsome!
08-25-2007, 11:38 PM
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Re: Dyno Test: T1 Intercooler vs. PWR Intercooler (SpeedDreamz.com)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SpeedDreamz.com »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
T1 going worldwide. </TD></TR></TABLE> Hell yeah! for Tony1
T1 going worldwide.
</TD></TR></TABLE> Hell yeah! for Tony1
08-27-2007, 05:05 PM
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Re: Dyno Test: T1 Intercooler vs. PWR Intercooler (tony1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My online store should be live in about a week and everything will be on there. </TD></TR></TABLE>
So does that mean the OBX knockoffs will be on eBay in 3 weeks?
I liked the end tank design on Joe's intercooler a lot.
</TD></TR></TABLE>So does that mean the OBX knockoffs will be on eBay in 3 weeks?
I liked the end tank design on Joe's intercooler a lot.
08-28-2007, 08:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fmfkid250 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Was is the heat or flow restriction?</TD></TR></TABLE>
WTH?
WTH?