turbopanda

I know many of you have been waiting a very long time for this - I'm sorry for the wait!

Its now possible to push 1 bar (and more) on your D16 block safely without having to purchase forged rods and pistons!

For those of you who don't know what i'm talking about, please click on the link in my signature for my Civic, and on the page that pops up, look closely at my engine specs.. notice that on my D16 engine, I use B16A rods and Toyota Supra pistons..

With a blockguard, lowered compression ratio, and a standalone ECU, I've been able to boost at 1 bar (14.7psi) on my engine daily.. and 1.3 bar (that's 18psi!) at the quatermile track.. i've been running strong for almost 2 years. The only time this combo didn't hold up was while I was doing a 5th gear run to redline at 1.6 bar

The prices are as follows:

B16A rods, 2nd hand, good condition = US$95.00 for FOUR connecting rods.
B16A bearings, new = US$TBA
Toyota 1G-GTE pistons, 2nd hand and in good condition = US$170 for SIX pistons.
Toyota 1G-GTE piston rings pack, brand new = US$70, package contains piston rings for SIX pistons.
Machine work for modification of connecting rods in order to be compatible with the Toyota pistons = US$50

Me and many of my friends have used this combo sucessfully on D16Y8 engines (1.6l SOHC VTEC). Please check piston and rod specs of your engine with that of the D16Y8 engine to see whether it will work for you or not, as I can't refund orders!

The pistons and rings must be bought in packs of 6, as that's how I get them (don't forget the 1G-GTE is a 6 cylinder twin-turbo supra engine, with pistons that coincedently have the same diameter as our 75mm D16 engines ) Having 2 spare pistons and rings is handy just incase you happen to break something

Installation is as simple as replacing your pistons and rods. The Crankshaft needs no modification, although the bottom of the shortblock will need to be shaved a little so that there is enough clearance for the beefy B16A rods

For those of you interested, please e-mail me (nathan@samart.co.th) and let me know what area you live in, so I can quote you a price for shipping charges. Note that I don't live in the US, and that I have to ship your parts internationally from Bangkok Thailand. Whether you want me to send it via UPS, DHL, or Airborne Express is entirely up to you, although I've heard that Airborne Express is the cheapest.

khang77642

sweet, interested here. Check email

93LSivic

Isnt this because factory spec supra pistons are forged?
I think I heard that somewhere.

Good info! Even though im B series and **** is way expensive, I would give it a try if I still had the D16Z in

CovertFI

what broke when you hit 1.6 bar?

Hayasa15

you've got mail

M.A.R.C.

bout time nathan. I replied to a post a while back about that setup. I'll hit you up with an email when i get home.

Hayasa15

does anybody know how much it costs to have rods shot-peened? Where can i get that done at?

TheShocker

I am interested in this. Do you happen to know what the compression ratio is with these installed? I am assuming these should work in a d16a6, unless you know somehting I don't.

Thanks.

-Seth

Edit: Nathan, what are you pushing for power and what is your 1/4 mile time?...just curious. Thanks man.


[Modified by TheShocker, 4:56 PM 6/13/2002]

dbman96

If you're doing this in reasonably large quantities, why don't you cut the price on the pistons and rings for sets of 4 - you buy TWO sets of 6, sell THREE sets of four, cost should drop for everyone! Sounds like it's not too expensive to get into so it shouldn't be all that bad for you to keep a little overhead stock

M.A.R.C.

on his site it said in a d16y8 it yielded 8.2:1 compression ratio

DigitalFusion

anyone know the stroke length of the D series crankshaft?

eddie1681

anyone wnat to share 2 6packs and lower the price?

Nathan, what part of the block that needs to be shaved?


[Modified by b20z, 3:51 AM 6/14/2002]

turbopanda

well nothing broke. my rods bent slightly and the piston rings went byebye.. I could still drive the car to the garage (the car was still drivable) but a leakdown revealed normal compression in cylinders 1 2 and 3, but cylinder 4 was leaking about 40%. Sleeves and block was okay, no damage done. All I had to do was replace that piston and rod, and I was back on the road

turbopanda

Well I did think of doing this, but I thought some of you would be daring enough to push it to the limit and might break something, so having some "spares" would be a good idea..

But if you guys wanna do it that way, well, I can do that, no problem. Just remember that I would need to have 3 buyers in order to sell a 3 sets.

Quatermile times I've been able to do? I've run a 13.6 @ 182km/h - that was with the engine in an EK sedan with full interior (and two spare tires in the trunk), 16" rims, and street tires.

BTW, i've received only 3 e-mails... anyone else interested?


[Modified by turbopanda, 11:50 AM 6/14/2002]

lelopez

do these toyota pistons have valve releifs? If so, are they "coincidentally" equal to the honda valve releifs?

anyways, let me know how much for shipping to Tampa, FL zip 33613......I am interested in a set of pistons and rings.

thanks,
lelopez@eng.usf.edu
Lester

liam821

This is cool and all...but i dont know if its worth the money?

I have boosted 15psi on a 100% stock d16z6 block before which with a stock compression of 9.4:1 is pretty badass power. (on 108 octane race gas)

I used to boost my old d16z6 (100% stock) 12psi daily on 91 octane (lots of tuning) and i didnt have any problems until i spun a rod bearing because the age of the motor.

Also your not in the US. What octane pump gas do you get to place around with?

What compression do you think this setup makes? Around 8.5:1? Just because you can run more boost doesnt mean it makes more power.

ie 15psi on my 100% stock d16z6 was waayyy more power then my 18psi on my built d16z6 (8.8:1 compression)

(Although using the b16a rods is a good thing..the d16z6 rods suck very weak )

liam

KoRE

you got mail

Ivan

What if I wanted to use integra ls rods. I already have some lying around.Would they work with the supra pistons?

liam821

ls rods are longer..they wont work.

liam

Sonny

Integra LS rods are the same length as D series rod. The location of the wrist pin hole on the Supra pistons may make them unusable in this application. However, if this setup yielded 8.2:1 in a D16Y8, the compression will be substantially lower for other D series engines. The D16Y8 has the tightest chamber of all D series heads.

Sonny

liam821

correct

Sonny

Cool. Thanks for clarifying.

Sonny

Ivan

What if I used some forged pistons made for the dseries. Would the ls rods work?I'm just trying to clarify if they can work or not cause some people say thy will and others say they won't.

eddie1681

so the stock LS integra rods will work for the standard D16 pistons?

Max_ED9

i got a 92 DOHC ZC.... anybody know if these will work on my d series blocks... i always thought ALL d series blocks were the same and the only thing that changed were the heads....

some calrification please.