S2000 Motor converted to FWD?
05-09-2007, 10:40 PM
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S2000 Motor converted to FWD?
Why hasn't it been done? You could flip the motor to sit sideways just like a K20 and then get an adapter plate to bolt on a K series trans or B series trans....Just wanted to know why nobody has tried yet. If you did flip it sideways it would sit with the exhaust man in the front and the intake manifold in the back and the pulleys would sit in the same area as a B series motor.
05-09-2007, 10:47 PM
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Re: S2000 Motor converted to FWD? (Oregonized)
http://austin.craigslist.org/pts/323849056.html Oh and these pics of the S2000 motor sitting there inspired my insanity. I know its been asked before prbly but I wonder if anyone on here has thoroughly looked over what would need to be done. I can see you would need to weld some motor mount bracket spots onto the side of the block....I dont know if that would be safe or even possible. If you could find a way to mount this thing and bolt a FWD transmission to it then I see it being possible.
05-10-2007, 03:33 AM
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Re: S2000 Motor converted to FWD? (Infinityzer050)
^^^that's probably the worst photochop ever.....................I think the main reason that it's not been done ( I may be mistaken) is cost, fine you get the engine for $800, add to that two tonnes of other **** and next thing you know, you're in K territory..........
[edit by moderator: post is in correct, see http://www.prototyperacing.com/f20kit.htm]
[edit by moderator: post is in correct, see http://www.prototyperacing.com/f20kit.htm]
05-10-2007, 06:14 AM
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That is not a photochop; that was done as a test by a shop that posted that pic in a thread on this forum. No, I don't remember who, but it was some time ago.
The only two bolt holes that line up are the top ones, and that is it.
The only two bolt holes that line up are the top ones, and that is it.
05-10-2007, 09:18 AM
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Re: (MoonScryer)
I know you would be in K territory and you see plenty of K swaps these days. If someone could make an adapter plate for the block to run a FWD trans I could see this motor going into lots of cars.
05-10-2007, 12:40 PM
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So you want a 2.0 liter? Why not just get a F20B or an H22A and use a B tranny.
For the money you just saved upgrade everything.
Or just get a K swap.
Price would be ridiculous plus I read something on that motor not spinning the same direction and you would have 5 reverse gears and 1 forward. But I do not know how much truth to that.
I just know I read it in one of the bigger threads discussing this.
For the money you just saved upgrade everything.
Or just get a K swap.
Price would be ridiculous plus I read something on that motor not spinning the same direction and you would have 5 reverse gears and 1 forward. But I do not know how much truth to that.
I just know I read it in one of the bigger threads discussing this.
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05-10-2007, 05:55 PM
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Re: S2000 Motor converted to FWD? (Infinityzer050)
This idea are not so stupid !!!
Why not ? I think this setup can be fun !!!
$$$ If you don't have cash, sorry for you
Why not ? I think this setup can be fun !!!
$$$ If you don't have cash, sorry for you
05-10-2007, 10:10 PM
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Re: S2000 Motor converted to FWD? (hondastreet)
first of all by getting an f20b, or h22a you would need the pertaining transmission off of an "h" of "f" series, no b-series is compatible. it would also depend on what car you would be putting it into. this would matter for a reason that has already been said, "cost". putting into a b-series car would be an absolute nightmare. putting it into an accord or prelude, would still be quite the headache. either way you would be able to build, or boost an h/f-series for the price of everything put together. if you wanted to spend money like that and make a unique honda, make a rwd something....that would be coo
05-11-2007, 07:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">first of all by getting an f20b, or h22a you would need the pertaining transmission off of an "h" of "f" series, no b-series is compatible. it would also depend on what car you would be putting it into. this would matter for a reason that has already been said, "cost". putting into a b-series car would be an absolute nightmare. putting it into an accord or prelude, would still be quite the headache. either way you would be able to build, or boost an h/f-series for the price of everything put together. if you wanted to spend money like that and make a unique honda, make a rwd something....that would be coo </TD></TR></TABLE>
For one who has done so many swaps, you sure don't know what is going on in the hybrid swap world as of late.
H2B ring a bell? Hell, people have put D series on F and H, even B on an A series (old 80's accord).
As to how to do it in a nightmare of a chasis - its called a K swap.
For one who has done so many swaps, you sure don't know what is going on in the hybrid swap world as of late.
H2B ring a bell? Hell, people have put D series on F and H, even B on an A series (old 80's accord).
As to how to do it in a nightmare of a chasis - its called a K swap.
05-11-2007, 09:37 AM
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Amen. Look at Bense. He is putting a D-series tranny on an F20B (jdm accord motor)
There is 155 pages of H2B (h22a mated with a B-series tranny)
What I said ^ about reading is the F20C S2000 motors have been said to spin a completely different direction than the B-series tranny can go.
Being 5 revers and 1 forward gear. Unless your tow-mater and can drive fast backwards, not fun.
And for the record. H-series transmissions suck.
There is 155 pages of H2B (h22a mated with a B-series tranny)
What I said ^ about reading is the F20C S2000 motors have been said to spin a completely different direction than the B-series tranny can go.
Being 5 revers and 1 forward gear. Unless your tow-mater and can drive fast backwards, not fun.
And for the record. H-series transmissions suck.
05-11-2007, 10:08 AM
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Re: (sauceja)
http://www.prototyperacing.com/f20kit.htm Check this link out....Someone is already in the process of making an adapter plate to mate a K series trans to an F20C motor! This is where that picture comes from.
05-12-2007, 07:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by int3gr4vtec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">img]http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j43/int3gr4vtec/s2kblok3nc4.jpg[/img]
S2000 FWD in a civic
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any more pics
S2000 FWD in a civic
</TD></TR></TABLE>any more pics
05-13-2007, 09:48 AM
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05-13-2007, 01:20 PM
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sorry bro, this thread shouldn't be locked. I was actually JUST thinking about this thing earlier, lemme upload my pics....
Don't ask me anything about it, all i know is from what I see in these pics. Look how they fabbed the header OVER the crossmember and modified the firewall. Pretty slick if you ask me.
This might be my next project
Don't ask me anything about it, all i know is from what I see in these pics. Look how they fabbed the header OVER the crossmember and modified the firewall. Pretty slick if you ask me.
This might be my next project
05-14-2007, 12:39 PM
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the reason people do/are interested in swaps that may seem to make no sense at all (as compared to a easier route) is that it's different + the challenge of doing it!!!! Well at least that's why I am interested in things like this... Imagine a F20c/k20 6spd or a h2b (H22A/ITR), or a H22A/CRV AWD 5spd (all swaps mentioned have to be done in a CRX ), or even a H2D in a Civic wagon AWD... It's all about the W 
W factor, plus I like to amuse myself 
), or even a H2D in a Civic wagon AWD... It's all about the W W factor, plus I like to amuse myself
05-14-2007, 01:00 PM
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Yeah, I totally get the wow factor no doubt. But this one doesn't wow me, all previously mentioned ones do though.
I'd build an AWD EF of some sort in a heart beat if there was some way the drivetrain would hold the power. But that's off topic.
Cool idea I guess...
I'd build an AWD EF of some sort in a heart beat if there was some way the drivetrain would hold the power. But that's off topic.
Cool idea I guess...
05-15-2007, 04:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by QuarterMileMaster »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't get it. Why not just do a k20a (Type R)? Aren't the performance specs pretty much the same?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ever seen a DC5 ITR in the states, I haven't.
F20Cs are a lot more abundant than JDM ITR K20R engines. Not to mention that....oh yeah:
http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=17881
As time progresses we're gonna have more ep3 trannys laying around. Same with accord 5mt trans. We can make use of them.
It won't be as easy of a swap as a straight up K swap. That hybrid trans can be built for a reasonable price too. Make use of what we have available.
Most people won't think that my F2D swap with a F20B is very impressive, but when I'm running times equivalent to an all motor K swapped EG, with less money invested than an b18c5 swap, then i suspect that it will get more attention.
F2K wouldn't be the dream swap, but it serves it's purpose
Ever seen a DC5 ITR in the states, I haven't.
F20Cs are a lot more abundant than JDM ITR K20R engines. Not to mention that....oh yeah:
http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=17881
As time progresses we're gonna have more ep3 trannys laying around. Same with accord 5mt trans. We can make use of them.
It won't be as easy of a swap as a straight up K swap. That hybrid trans can be built for a reasonable price too. Make use of what we have available.
Most people won't think that my F2D swap with a F20B is very impressive, but when I'm running times equivalent to an all motor K swapped EG, with less money invested than an b18c5 swap, then i suspect that it will get more attention.
F2K wouldn't be the dream swap, but it serves it's purpose
