skata89

I got 168hp and 113trq. The trq seem kinda low to me. My mods are short ram aem intake, jdm itr header, T1R test pipe, WS2 exhaust, and fpr. I was told that for an all stock internals that these were pretty good. The guy said that these are the best he has seen for an stock type R. I will try posting the dyno sheet tomorrow. So what do yall think?


Also I noticed on the graph that right before vtec hits it starts to go a little flat. Would this be room for adjusting the vtec crossover point?
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street_ride14

I know of a GSR that does this with only a header and exhaust upgrade. When was the last time you did a tune-up on this car? What is the condition of your injectors? I think your motor is not as healthy as it should be. Run a compression test and post the numbers.

pennies_hatchie

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by street_ride14 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know of a GSR that does this with only a header and exhaust upgrade. When was the last time you did a tune-up on this car? What is the condition of your injectors? I think your motor is not as healthy as it should be. Run a compression test and post the numbers. </TD></TR></TABLE>

that mustve been a freak gsr motor.

i got 171whp and 116 lbs of torque with a stock itr motor, comptech intake, comptech header, comptech exhaust all tune with a vafc2. so your motor is in great condition

skata89

I just had a tune-up and do regular maintenance on it. The injectors Im not sure about though. O by the way this was done on a mustang dyno and it got 182 and they said that 168 was the corrected numbers.

Dave_B

I'm at 192 WHP wtih just intake, header and exhaust. Not to mention the hondata intake mani gasket. This was tuned on a Hondata S300 system EMS.

As for your numbers, what dyno where you on? That will make all the difference in the world.

PrinceAli132

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dave_B &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm at 192 WHP wtih just intake, header and exhaust. Not to mention the hondata intake mani gasket. This was tuned on a Hondata S300 system EMS.

As for your numbers, what dyno where you on? That will make all the difference in the world.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You forgot to mention thats with a Mugen Intake, SMSP header and race exhaust. Quality parts = Nice #'s

Ali

Dave_B

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PrinceAli132 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You forgot to mention thats with a Mugen Intake, SMSP header and race exhaust. Quality parts = Nice #'s

Ali</TD></TR></TABLE>

Very true, but it's still I/H/E.

PrinceAli132

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dave_B &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As for your numbers, what dyno where you on? That will make all the difference in the world.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Im interested to see what dyno this was on as well.

Also, was this just a baseline run or did this include some tunning? If tuned, what kind of engine management are you using?

Ali

neo_

The most common error of Dynos is that they are all different. There are Mustang dynos, dynojet, dynajet, etc... All of these will not read the same as they use different methods to find the results.. And one may test the HP to the wheels, while the other may test it from the hubs. And even if it still the same dyno type, you still have to factor in the ambient temps, altitude and etc.. I'm not even going to get into SAE, STD, and etc..

So don't make any conclusions on your numbers without comparing it to a baseline, because the before and after is what matters the most.

Lets not turn this into I made X amount of HP with Y mods, as comparing this online is flawed with so many variables involved.

Plus we all know that Dave_B uses nitrous.

itr1244

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by skata89 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I got 168hp and 113trq. The trq seem kinda low to me. My mods are short ram aem intake, jdm itr header, T1R test pipe, WS2 exhaust, and fpr. I was told that for an all stock internals that these were pretty good. The guy said that these are the best he has seen for an stock type R. I will try posting the dyno sheet tomorrow. So what do yall think?</TD></TR></TABLE>

seems about right..

i had 164whp and 118tq
stock motor anr header and 2.5" exh system.

skata89

This was on a Mustang Dyno. I tried to take some pics of it but they didnt turn out good so Im going to have to wait until I can get it scaned. And this is without any tuning. The graph it self looks pretty smooth.

stick

u should really find out what a stock ITR does on that dyno then u can compare altho there are many variables.

cdntegintx

My stock 99 JDM Type R motor put down 175 whp and 125 tq. When I dyno'd it there was about 50,000kms (just over 31,000 miles) The computer was stock OBDII, the only mod was a 2.5 inch exhaust from header back. It doesn't sound like your motor is too far off. A good tune up and proper dyno tuning can go along way though.

EARLdaSQUIRREL

from the looks of it you could gain a decent amount of power from just a/f tuning, it looks as if your below 12:1 from 7000 rpm and up

get some kind of engine management and watch your numbers climb

Dave_B

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by neo_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Plus we all know that Dave_B uses nitrous. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yep, for all that m4dE tYtE sCReaT r4cing y0!!!

skata89

I also have another ?. I have adjustable cam gears on my motor and there still set at zero. Do you guys still think there can be more of an approvement with adjusting those and messing with the afr? I think the guys I was going to get tuned by were too preocuppied with getting ready for the track so they just said that it was god the way it was.

Also right before vtec hits it kinda flattens out. Will it be a good idea to lower it some to get rid of that?

Rollo Lawson

mustang dynos read lower than dynojets. the o.p. is probably making about 180whp on a dynojet. not bad at all

92TypeR

Mustang dyno's are generally 13-16% lower than DynoJet 248c's.

Factor that into your numbers and you could have anywhere from 189-194whp - DynoJet.

skata89

So are the DynoJets more acurate then the mustang dynos?

Bradstard

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by skata89 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So are the DynoJets more acurate then the mustang dynos?</TD></TR></TABLE>

It's actually the other way around. But people typically don't like to use Mustang dyno's because they read lower and can't brag about how they put down the big numbers.

92TypeR

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by skata89 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So are the DynoJets more acurate then the mustang dynos?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The numbers represented by any chassis dynometer are centered on an SAE corection factor, you can get a mustang dyno to read the same as a dynojet, and vice versa, just takes a bit of manipulation.

With that said, Mustang dyno's are far better for tuning due to the ability to load the dyno to tune partials, whereas your conventional DynoJet 248 series doesn't. However, if I remember correctly, the newer DynoJet's have variable loading, but I havn't seen one yet in person...

skata89

Do you guys think that lowering the vtec crossover would produce more hp?

Jon D

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by skata89 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do you guys think that lowering the vtec crossover would produce more hp?</TD></TR></TABLE>


NO not necessarily at all.....

EARLdaSQUIRREL

it wont create more max power, but from looks it could give you some more midrange tq and hp, but that all depends.

get to a dyno where you can get your a/f tuned and adjust your cam gears

GO-FIGHT-KILL

Weak, I made 238whp with an SSAutoChrome header, Ractive exhaust, Toucan racing intake, and an OBX intake manifold (For a smoother vtech "pop")...



Kidding, decent numbers man, looks like your motor's healthy.