WOW THIS IS VERY TRUE
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WOW IS THIS TRUE?
David Buschur
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Well guys this is going to be a long one. Make sure you read it before you jump down my throat.
First off I have been racing now for, as much as I hate to admit it, 24 years. The entire Import Scene that started back in the late '80 and early '90's was freaking awesome. I have a ton of great memories from then. The racing scene was great. I have some videos and pictures that would make you laugh. You built a car, brought it to the track and raced it. It was fun, it was raw and it was crazy.
As time passed I built my AWD into a car that had a fuel cell, roll bar, 5 point harnesses and thought it was cool. I thought it was so cool that I built a back halfed DSM and took it to get chassis inspections and made sure it was legal, becuase then I thought I was the man with this car. I thought it was so cool I went really nuts and built a full tube chassis Eagle Talon and went through the same process again. I use to love to have it inspected at the track and IF there was in issue I'd be glad to have it taken care of. It was COOL!!
Well here I am today, I haven't competed in the "Import Racing" of today in about 5 years. I wrecked the tube chassis car, got sick of the corporate BS it took to go to the track and just quit. Until this weekend I didn't realize how bad the "Import Scene" had gotten. It is filled with a bunch of crying candy *** wimps with their panties in a bunch. Their cars are garbage and put together with crap. They all think they are Professional racers and car builders apparently. I'd value my Walmart bought riding mower higher than most of the crap I saw this weekend.
Here is what has me ticked off. We all went to NOPI this weekend. Looking to have some fun. Had no idea what any class any of our cars fit into. We did go knowing that the track officials or NOPI officials would probably kick all of our cars off the track for lack of safety equipment if they caught us. The black shop car for example has to have a parachute to legally run NOPI because if you exceed 150 mph it is mandatory you pull the chute. Well it doesn't have one and we probably aren't putting one on it, it doesn't need it, it stops fine.
My RS has no rollcage and neither does Jarrod's car, both are below the limit of needing one.
Anyway, we go through tech and ask which classes to run. They put my RS and Jarrod in Power Street and the black car in Turbo 4. They go through tech without a problem.
My car is the number 1 qualifier running a 10.15, 10.2 and 10.2. The next closest guy is 10.8. Jarrod was running 12's (as usual-haha) and then finally busted out a few 11.7's, then a few 11.4's ending with a best of 11.41@130mph on a 1.9 60foot. He was having traction issues all weekend with ALL 60' foots being 1.90-2.0. He was trying to get used to the new setup and launching the car.
Well one of these whiney little punks that were in our class went to the tech officials and whined about me not having a roll bar. I was not mad that I was being disqualified, I was mad that somone who had what they considered a "race car" but couldn't beat the car I drove to the track had to find a way to get rid of my car. Now consider the fact that my car as all the door beams, air bags, it has 8,000 miles on it, is absolutely perfect and compare that to the broken down pieces of crap that were there. These POS's that I looked at were in my opinion junk. Yes, they had a roll bar, some of the welds looked like they were done with bubble gum, they had 5 point harnesses too. But they were high mileage garbage. I can gaurantee you not as safe, stable or nearly as well put together as our cars. Who's is really safer? This worn out POS or a perfectly put together car with all the factory safety equipment? That I am sure is debateable. I can tell you I would not personally drive over half the cars in the class. Hell you'd have to pressure wash them out to get me to sit in them.
After this happened I got pissed off and decided I was going to start teching some cars and turning them in. It was a joke. No scatter shields, no driveshaft loops, illegal tires, non-certified roll cages, improperly mounted seat belts, no window nets. The list is huge. It was so huge I would venture to say any car in my class could have been thrown out for something being wrong if the cars were actually inspected like they should be for this "wannabe racer class".
It was very disapointing to me that a fellow racer would turn in another car for a "safety" issue. Now I could understand it if I was cheating by doing something that gave me a power advantage like NOS that wasn't legal, alcohol, slicks etc. To me if I choose not to have a rollbar in the car I drive my kid to school in then that is my problem and if I can slide by tech then good for me. My rollbar is not going to have any effect on someone else's safety in the class or how fast the car goes. I could put a legal bar in this car that would weight maybe 50 pounds, that won't even effect the times it runs.
The next day Jarrod was also protested, he went too fast by .08 seconds, as soon as he did some school girl went and told on him and he was also booted for no roll bar.
It ticked me off, needless to say. If this is what they consider Import Racing now you can keep it. I only wish I knew for sure who they crying babies were. I have my ideas but non of the poeple I confronted had the ***** to admit it, such is fact of life. The world is filled with guys that don't have a set of *****.
IF by chance I am lucky enough that the guy (s) that protested Jarrod and myself read this............to you I say, I hope that your car burns to the ground. Whether or not you are in it when it happens, I could care less. The world is full of balless whiners, a few less wouldn't hurt a thing.
If you can't beat someone find a way to weazle your way out of racing them, that's always a good solution. You freaking douche bags.
I took great pleasure in taking my protested car 25 miles up the road that night and getting a great steak dinner and then driving 35 miles back home in it. No trailer, number 1 qualifier and protested by some panty wastes all in one day, that is a good day!
To the rest of you, I had a great time this weekend and it was an absolute pleasure meeting everyone else!
David Buschur
President
Buschur Racing, Inc.
Modified by ciscoscivic at 9:58 PM 10/16/2006
President
Buschur Racing, Inc.
Well guys this is going to be a long one. Make sure you read it before you jump down my throat.
First off I have been racing now for, as much as I hate to admit it, 24 years. The entire Import Scene that started back in the late '80 and early '90's was freaking awesome. I have a ton of great memories from then. The racing scene was great. I have some videos and pictures that would make you laugh. You built a car, brought it to the track and raced it. It was fun, it was raw and it was crazy.
As time passed I built my AWD into a car that had a fuel cell, roll bar, 5 point harnesses and thought it was cool. I thought it was so cool that I built a back halfed DSM and took it to get chassis inspections and made sure it was legal, becuase then I thought I was the man with this car. I thought it was so cool I went really nuts and built a full tube chassis Eagle Talon and went through the same process again. I use to love to have it inspected at the track and IF there was in issue I'd be glad to have it taken care of. It was COOL!!
Well here I am today, I haven't competed in the "Import Racing" of today in about 5 years. I wrecked the tube chassis car, got sick of the corporate BS it took to go to the track and just quit. Until this weekend I didn't realize how bad the "Import Scene" had gotten. It is filled with a bunch of crying candy *** wimps with their panties in a bunch. Their cars are garbage and put together with crap. They all think they are Professional racers and car builders apparently. I'd value my Walmart bought riding mower higher than most of the crap I saw this weekend.
Here is what has me ticked off. We all went to NOPI this weekend. Looking to have some fun. Had no idea what any class any of our cars fit into. We did go knowing that the track officials or NOPI officials would probably kick all of our cars off the track for lack of safety equipment if they caught us. The black shop car for example has to have a parachute to legally run NOPI because if you exceed 150 mph it is mandatory you pull the chute. Well it doesn't have one and we probably aren't putting one on it, it doesn't need it, it stops fine.
My RS has no rollcage and neither does Jarrod's car, both are below the limit of needing one.
Anyway, we go through tech and ask which classes to run. They put my RS and Jarrod in Power Street and the black car in Turbo 4. They go through tech without a problem.
My car is the number 1 qualifier running a 10.15, 10.2 and 10.2. The next closest guy is 10.8. Jarrod was running 12's (as usual-haha) and then finally busted out a few 11.7's, then a few 11.4's ending with a best of 11.41@130mph on a 1.9 60foot. He was having traction issues all weekend with ALL 60' foots being 1.90-2.0. He was trying to get used to the new setup and launching the car.
Well one of these whiney little punks that were in our class went to the tech officials and whined about me not having a roll bar. I was not mad that I was being disqualified, I was mad that somone who had what they considered a "race car" but couldn't beat the car I drove to the track had to find a way to get rid of my car. Now consider the fact that my car as all the door beams, air bags, it has 8,000 miles on it, is absolutely perfect and compare that to the broken down pieces of crap that were there. These POS's that I looked at were in my opinion junk. Yes, they had a roll bar, some of the welds looked like they were done with bubble gum, they had 5 point harnesses too. But they were high mileage garbage. I can gaurantee you not as safe, stable or nearly as well put together as our cars. Who's is really safer? This worn out POS or a perfectly put together car with all the factory safety equipment? That I am sure is debateable. I can tell you I would not personally drive over half the cars in the class. Hell you'd have to pressure wash them out to get me to sit in them.
After this happened I got pissed off and decided I was going to start teching some cars and turning them in. It was a joke. No scatter shields, no driveshaft loops, illegal tires, non-certified roll cages, improperly mounted seat belts, no window nets. The list is huge. It was so huge I would venture to say any car in my class could have been thrown out for something being wrong if the cars were actually inspected like they should be for this "wannabe racer class".
It was very disapointing to me that a fellow racer would turn in another car for a "safety" issue. Now I could understand it if I was cheating by doing something that gave me a power advantage like NOS that wasn't legal, alcohol, slicks etc. To me if I choose not to have a rollbar in the car I drive my kid to school in then that is my problem and if I can slide by tech then good for me. My rollbar is not going to have any effect on someone else's safety in the class or how fast the car goes. I could put a legal bar in this car that would weight maybe 50 pounds, that won't even effect the times it runs.
The next day Jarrod was also protested, he went too fast by .08 seconds, as soon as he did some school girl went and told on him and he was also booted for no roll bar.
It ticked me off, needless to say. If this is what they consider Import Racing now you can keep it. I only wish I knew for sure who they crying babies were. I have my ideas but non of the poeple I confronted had the ***** to admit it, such is fact of life. The world is filled with guys that don't have a set of *****.
IF by chance I am lucky enough that the guy (s) that protested Jarrod and myself read this............to you I say, I hope that your car burns to the ground. Whether or not you are in it when it happens, I could care less. The world is full of balless whiners, a few less wouldn't hurt a thing.
If you can't beat someone find a way to weazle your way out of racing them, that's always a good solution. You freaking douche bags.
I took great pleasure in taking my protested car 25 miles up the road that night and getting a great steak dinner and then driving 35 miles back home in it. No trailer, number 1 qualifier and protested by some panty wastes all in one day, that is a good day!
To the rest of you, I had a great time this weekend and it was an absolute pleasure meeting everyone else!
David Buschur
President
Buschur Racing, Inc.
Modified by ciscoscivic at 9:58 PM 10/16/2006
10-16-2006, 05:39 PM
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Re: WOW THIS IS VERY TRUE (ciscoscivic)
NDRA needs to stand behind it's rules from the start and not wait for people to protest when they lose. They want the cars and money though so they wait till someone says something before it's done.
I recall Marko running his Supra last year running 160+ with no chute, licence, or even a helmet on his first pass. Now if it wasn't a 3 car field i'm sure they would have said something before the finals.
I recall Marko running his Supra last year running 160+ with no chute, licence, or even a helmet on his first pass. Now if it wasn't a 3 car field i'm sure they would have said something before the finals.
10-16-2006, 05:40 PM
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Re: WOW THIS IS VERY TRUE (ciscoscivic)
Maybe he should have read the rule book before he showed up and figured out what class he was in? Not that I agree for someone going to an offical and making a protest but they do have every right to to that.
He makes some good points, but some lame ones too.
He makes some good points, but some lame ones too.
10-16-2006, 05:48 PM
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That why they make rules, We all spend money and time to make sure our cars are right. EVERYONE should have to follow the rules in my opion
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Yeah well what made you seem like an *** to us is you come over acting like a dick ******* screaming saying that someone told you that a green car protested you. Then come back later and say oh i was just kidding i just wanted to see what you guys would say. I would love to not have a cage and not to buy all of the safety equipment and run all day. But really i was pissed when someone did this to me, i had a roll bar and not a full cage but i didnt go around acting like i wanted to kill someone. I personally believe that no one should have to protest something like that anyway that is the techs job. oh well just wanted to let you know how alot of people around we shocked in the way a very professional shop acted.
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I agree, the rule book is out there for everyone to read. Dave knows racing and to disregard the rules to this level is sad. But, it is just as sad that NOPI let these cars run down the track to begin with. I think that blame is with both sides on this one, not with the kids that complained. They followed the rules and shouldn't lose because someone didn't feel like following them.
10-16-2006, 05:50 PM
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Re: WOW THIS IS VERY TRUE (Arturbo)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Arturbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
He makes some good points, but some lame ones too.</TD></TR></TABLE>
very true. i would think that someone who wrecked like he did in his talon would consider safety equipment priority one. i would be bummed too but you shouldnt be that raving mad at someone when youre basically in the wrong. how could he not expect that to happen? as the owner of a respected shop like his and someone that has been doing it as long as he has he should know the rules and if he chooses not to abide by them he should be prepared for the consequences.
-Roger
He makes some good points, but some lame ones too.</TD></TR></TABLE>
very true. i would think that someone who wrecked like he did in his talon would consider safety equipment priority one. i would be bummed too but you shouldnt be that raving mad at someone when youre basically in the wrong. how could he not expect that to happen? as the owner of a respected shop like his and someone that has been doing it as long as he has he should know the rules and if he chooses not to abide by them he should be prepared for the consequences.
-Roger
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Re: WOW THIS IS VERY TRUE (Arturbo)
You have to think about it as if you were ther person you were racing.
And what is with calling other people's car junk, you are the baller who spends $30k for a new car and about another $15k to make if fast. Some people are not ballers like you and have to work hard for every part on their car.
And what is with calling other people's car junk, you are the baller who spends $30k for a new car and about another $15k to make if fast. Some people are not ballers like you and have to work hard for every part on their car.
10-16-2006, 06:02 PM
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Re: WOW IS THIS TRUE? (ciscoscivic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ciscoscivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">David Buschur
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After this happened I got pissed off and decided I was going to start teching some cars and turning them in. It was a joke. No scatter shields, no driveshaft loops, illegal tires, non-certified roll cages, improperly mounted seat belts, no window nets. The list is huge. It was so huge I would venture to say any car in my class could have been thrown out for something being wrong if the cars were actually inspected like they should be for this "wannabe racer class".
David Buschur
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DAVID BUSCHER SHAME ON YOU FOR TAKING A 9-10 STREET CAR AND NOT HAVING YOU CAGE SINCE YO HAVE BEEN RACING FOR 24 YEARS NOW BUT.........
NDRA NEEDS RACERS, ANY CAR THAT PAYS PASSES TECH...
THIS HAS BEEN A BIG ISSUE I GUESS PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO REALIZE IT NOW.
I WOULD BE SCARED TO RACE MY $100,000 RACE CAR NEXT TO SOME ONE WHO WASNT SAFETY CERTIFIED AND TECH INSPECTED BY SOMEONE WHO WAS HIRED JUST TO TAKE TO MAKE SOME $$$ FOR THE WEEKEND
THIS HAS BEEN A LONG GOING BATTLE , NOW PEOPLE SEE THE TRUTH
"DEDICATION TO SAFTEY " NHRA
Modified by camp1320.com at 7:32 PM 10/16/2006
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After this happened I got pissed off and decided I was going to start teching some cars and turning them in. It was a joke. No scatter shields, no driveshaft loops, illegal tires, non-certified roll cages, improperly mounted seat belts, no window nets. The list is huge. It was so huge I would venture to say any car in my class could have been thrown out for something being wrong if the cars were actually inspected like they should be for this "wannabe racer class".
David Buschur
President
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DAVID BUSCHER SHAME ON YOU FOR TAKING A 9-10 STREET CAR AND NOT HAVING YOU CAGE SINCE YO HAVE BEEN RACING FOR 24 YEARS NOW BUT.........
NDRA NEEDS RACERS, ANY CAR THAT PAYS PASSES TECH...
THIS HAS BEEN A BIG ISSUE I GUESS PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO REALIZE IT NOW.
I WOULD BE SCARED TO RACE MY $100,000 RACE CAR NEXT TO SOME ONE WHO WASNT SAFETY CERTIFIED AND TECH INSPECTED BY SOMEONE WHO WAS HIRED JUST TO TAKE TO MAKE SOME $$$ FOR THE WEEKEND
THIS HAS BEEN A LONG GOING BATTLE , NOW PEOPLE SEE THE TRUTH
"DEDICATION TO SAFTEY " NHRA
Modified by camp1320.com at 7:32 PM 10/16/2006
10-16-2006, 06:10 PM
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He makes some good points, but some lame ones too.</TD></TR></TABLE>
He makes some good points, but some lame ones too.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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damn man, i was happy as **** to get booted for safety violations at our track, although, i know it was a fellow racer( V8 guy) that said something. I knew i was right at the cusp of the mph limit, and knew fully thaty i could get kicked out. you cant whine about it, yo7u live and ya learn, if he's been at it for 24 years, he should know better. Like 1320 said, you dont want an unsafe car next to ur 100k race car. im nowhere near that, but would like like a bunch of Yugo's next to you, ready to fall apart or blow a tire, chuck a flywheel at ya? i know i dont, and its why im building a NHRA spec car, so i dont have to worry about my **** injuring someone else.
10-16-2006, 06:19 PM
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from a neutral standpoint (because I dont know enough to side with either side), he makes good and bad points.
but what it comes down to is this: if you are in a sanctioned series with money involved, you KNOW there are rules to be followed going in. and just like every other sport in the world, if you are the "top dog" then people will do whatever it takes to knock you off the pedestal. comes with the territory. but just because you were top dog for the day doesnt give you the right to call everyone elses cars garbage. that shows some lack of class on your part in the same way that other person ratted you out. and if your **** dont stink, buy a beater and drive you child to school in that instead, and make your car legal and your problems are solved.
but what it comes down to is this: if you are in a sanctioned series with money involved, you KNOW there are rules to be followed going in. and just like every other sport in the world, if you are the "top dog" then people will do whatever it takes to knock you off the pedestal. comes with the territory. but just because you were top dog for the day doesnt give you the right to call everyone elses cars garbage. that shows some lack of class on your part in the same way that other person ratted you out. and if your **** dont stink, buy a beater and drive you child to school in that instead, and make your car legal and your problems are solved.
10-16-2006, 07:05 PM
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Quit crying dude! Someone who has raced for roughly 24 years should known that 9-10 second car needs a cage to be legal.You caused all that grief yourself,next time read the rulebook.
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I love Buschur if for no reason other then he truly could give a ratz butt about what people think, if he has something to say he says it. Since most of you have never been to the DSM Shootout at Norwalk its always fun because he will throw people out if your cars junk, if you leak oil on the track repeatly, or any other reason he sees fit. And tell it to your face. I know exactly where hes coming from in Power Street, half the Hondas in that class as super gutted and many show up with a lot of missing interior or a pile of interior parts in the back seat saying hey they are all there. That’s like me showing up in my AWD with drag radials say hey they are close. No one likes a snitch just last week everyone was all up in arms cause the Puerto Rican cars where inspected sat after initial tech and people where acting like Paul and Justin where behind some conspiracy and acted like they wanted to hang them-but that was okay. But Dave Buschur should know better so hes should not complain- WTF is that. I think his message was simple bring a car that can win or STFU and deal with your place on the ladder, too many people think they should always be number one qualifier and if they aren’t either bitch about the rules or try to find creative ways to win.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Corey G »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I love Buschur if for no reason other then he truly could give a ratz butt about what people think, if he has something to say he says it. Since most of you have never been to the DSM Shootout at Norwalk its always fun because he will throw people out if your cars junk, if you leak oil on the track repeatly, or any other reason he sees fit. And tell it to your face. I know exactly where hes coming from in Power Street, half the Hondas in that class as super gutted and many show up with a lot of missing interior or a pile of interior parts in the back seat saying hey they are all there. That’s like me showing up in my AWD with drag radials say hey they are close. No one likes a snitch just last week everyone was all up in arms cause the Puerto Rican cars where inspected sat after initial tech and people where acting like Paul and Justin where behind some conspiracy and acted like they wanted to hang them-but that was okay. But Dave Buschur should know better so hes should not complain- WTF is that. I think his message was simple bring a car that can win or STFU and deal with your place on the ladder, too many people think they should always be number one qualifier and if they aren’t either bitch about the rules or try to find creative ways to win.</TD></TR></TABLE>
the situation with the modified cars was different. the main differences being in their case their was no protest (even if there was everyone was well within the rules) and in daves case, well he was in the wrong. id really like to know the cars in question he was referring to. werent there a few regulars like andrea koury that fit all the class rules and safety regulations?
-Roger
the situation with the modified cars was different. the main differences being in their case their was no protest (even if there was everyone was well within the rules) and in daves case, well he was in the wrong. id really like to know the cars in question he was referring to. werent there a few regulars like andrea koury that fit all the class rules and safety regulations?
-Roger
10-16-2006, 08:02 PM
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I am one of the LAST people that wanted to put a roll bar in my car..... I ******* hate them. I have a REAL street car that I drive almost everyday, but I made damn sure that I had a ROLL BAR in my car for this race........
I know that if I didnt have a roll bar in the car I WOULD BE THROWN OUT....
I know that if I didnt have a roll bar in the car I WOULD BE THROWN OUT....
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He made a few good points....BUT
He is a "veteran" of drag racing, it doesnt matter what class he would have been put in, the rules are the same for safety equipment.
Anything can happen during a race, doesnt have to be driver error to create a crash. As seen in this pic from a local race this last sunday. Mustang about 160 mph broke somthing in front suspension. Hit the light pole in the background. Driver is in critical but stable condition. He has a broken back.
Just goes to show you **** happens.
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He is a "veteran" of drag racing, it doesnt matter what class he would have been put in, the rules are the same for safety equipment.
Anything can happen during a race, doesnt have to be driver error to create a crash. As seen in this pic from a local race this last sunday. Mustang about 160 mph broke somthing in front suspension. Hit the light pole in the background. Driver is in critical but stable condition. He has a broken back.
Just goes to show you **** happens.
Safety rules
10-16-2006, 10:55 PM
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he knew the rules, knew very well that he might get kicked out, and is pissed because someone reported him? Deal with it.
Nevermind the irresponsibility he is displaying for his family by not driving a car up to safety standards. I'm sure his kid would love to grow up without a parent because his dad was too stupid to put a rollbar in his car.
Basically, quit being a hypocrit Dave. You're mad because someone reported you so you're crying on your myspace blog? Man up and say your car wasn't up to spec and correct it if you want to run that class.
Nevermind the irresponsibility he is displaying for his family by not driving a car up to safety standards. I'm sure his kid would love to grow up without a parent because his dad was too stupid to put a rollbar in his car.
Basically, quit being a hypocrit Dave. You're mad because someone reported you so you're crying on your myspace blog? Man up and say your car wasn't up to spec and correct it if you want to run that class.
10-17-2006, 12:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes, they had a roll bar, some of the welds looked like they were done with bubble gum, they had 5 point harnesses too. But they were high mileage garbage. I can gaurantee you not as safe, stable or nearly as well put together as our cars. Who's is really safer?</TD></TR></TABLE>
he mentioned that others having saftey equipment are no better off because there fabbing skills are half assed and would be no better than racing without one
he mentioned that others having saftey equipment are no better off because there fabbing skills are half assed and would be no better than racing without one
10-17-2006, 02:09 AM
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I can't believe that I'm going to weigh in on this topic at all. As someone who was written competition rules for a sanctioning body, I know only too well that the body tries it's damnest to keep people safe at all costs. We have rules inplace to make sure that people don't get hurt. Dave knew full well that his cars were going to be outside the box, and truthfully he deserved to be reomoved from competition. However; with that being said, I 100% agree with a few of his points. There are a lot of garbage cars out there that really shouldn't be on a track, let along racing.
And as far as why he's pissed. That's simple. No one likes a rat.
Clayton
And as far as why he's pissed. That's simple. No one likes a rat.
Clayton
10-17-2006, 04:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Clayton »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I can't believe that I'm going to weigh in on this topic at all. As someone who was written competition rules for a sanctioning body, I know only too well that the body tries it's damnest to keep people safe at all costs. We have rules inplace to make sure that people don't get hurt. Dave knew full well that his cars were going to be outside the box, and truthfully he deserved to be reomoved from competition. However; with that being said, I 100% agree with a few of his points. There are a lot of garbage cars out there that really shouldn't be on a track, let along racing.
And as far as why he's pissed. That's simple. No one likes a rat.
Clayton</TD></TR></TABLE>
I concur.
And as far as why he's pissed. That's simple. No one likes a rat.
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I concur.
10-17-2006, 04:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Corey G »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I love Buschur if for no reason other then he truly could give a ratz butt about what people think, if he has something to say he says it. Since most of you have never been to the DSM Shootout at Norwalk its always fun because he will throw people out if your cars junk, if you leak oil on the track repeatly, or any other reason he sees fit. And tell it to your face. I know exactly where hes coming from in Power Street, half the Hondas in that class as super gutted and many show up with a lot of missing interior or a pile of interior parts in the back seat saying hey they are all there. That’s like me showing up in my AWD with drag radials say hey they are close. No one likes a snitch just last week everyone was all up in arms cause the Puerto Rican cars where inspected sat after initial tech and people where acting like Paul and Justin where behind some conspiracy and acted like they wanted to hang them-but that was okay. But Dave Buschur should know better so hes should not complain- WTF is that. I think his message was simple bring a car that can win or STFU and deal with your place on the ladder, too many people think they should always be number one qualifier and if they aren’t either bitch about the rules or try to find creative ways to win.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ciscoscivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">David Buschur
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IF by chance I am lucky enough that the guy (s) that protested Jarrod and myself read this............to you I say, I hope that your car burns to the ground. Whether or not you are in it when it happens, I could care less. The world is full of balless whiners, a few less wouldn't hurt a thing.
Modified by ciscoscivic at 9:58 PM 10/16/2006</TD></TR></TABLE>
Are u guys ******* kidding me. This is not ******* street racing. Race what u brung. If u want to race, your car should be up to par with safety.
Cause you have a brand new car, it does not make you exceptional to rules.
If u love Buschur, go suck his ****
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ciscoscivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">David Buschur
President
Buschur Racing, Inc.
IF by chance I am lucky enough that the guy (s) that protested Jarrod and myself read this............to you I say, I hope that your car burns to the ground. Whether or not you are in it when it happens, I could care less. The world is full of balless whiners, a few less wouldn't hurt a thing.
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Are u guys ******* kidding me. This is not ******* street racing. Race what u brung. If u want to race, your car should be up to par with safety.
Cause you have a brand new car, it does not make you exceptional to rules.
If u love Buschur, go suck his ****
10-17-2006, 04:52 AM
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The NDRA does have tech problems, they tend to rely on fellow racers to report or rat on other racers because they don't have the staffing to inspect cars very well. We've seen cars go through tech and pass, and then show up in the staging lanes not legal, they would take evering but the driver's seat out to run in Powerstreet class. Sometimes the cars should be reinspected before ever making a qualifing pass.