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Old 10-10-2006, 09:24 AM
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Default Writeup: BAR'd jdm h22 in 92 civic hatch - parts needed, etc to pass BAR

After over a year of trying to get my jdm h22 BAR’d in my 92 hatch, I finally passed this morning! Part of the reason it took me so long was because it sat for over 6 months (work got real busy) and because I wanted to do everything myself.

I found it hard to find everything in one post about what exactly I needed to pass the visual for the h22. Most posts just say to put the smog equipment back on (found a lot of b-series posts), but not nearly as much info for the h22. So here’s my write-up on what I installed and what else I changed to finally get BAR’d:

Mods on car:
AEM Short Ram Intake for 92-96 Preludes (mods need to have CARB # that matches engine)

Parts Needed/Installed:
First, I took the vacuum diagram from the h22 FAQ thread for OBDI engines:


I made sure to have everything in this diagram hooked up to my motor, as this is what the state ref goes by. However, because I decided to use the AEM intake, I did not need to have the Intake Control Solenoid Valve or the Intake Control Diaphragm. However, I was required to have the Air Boost Valve / Starting Air Valve. I argued multiple times with a couple state refs over this because the valve connects to the intake. The AEM intake, however, does not come with a nipple to receive the hose. The state refs (Rio Hondo and ELAC) said the EO # on the intake only excluded the Control Solenoid/Diaphragm combo. What I did was poked a hole in my intake (on the bottom, so it was hard to see the details of it), JB Welded a nipple in there, then painted over the JB Weld to make it look like that’s how it was supposed to be.

EGR Vacuum Control Valve, EVAP Purge Control Solenoid & Canister: took off any OBDI car
Bypass Control Solenoid Valve and Air Boost Valve: found on h-t from people parting out preludes

Got a deal on a new EGR Control Solenoid for a 93-96 h22, so I bought it. There’s some from others that work (I think certain accords, can’t recall at the moment)

I plugged the nipples on the intake mani for the Intake Control Solenoid and Cruise Control Actuator.

Next, wired up the EGR Control Solenoid Valve, EGR Valve, and EVAP Purge Control Solenoid.

(taken from FAQ thread)

OBD1
EGR lift valve solenoid
(The connector colors, From left to right) BLK/YEL and RED
Sensor Voltage - BLK/YEL - goes to A25
ECU trigger - RED - goes to A11.
EGR Lift Sensor (the actual EGR on the intake manifold)
(The connector colors, From left to right) WHT/BLK, GRN/WHT, and RED/WHT
ECU trigger - WHT/BLK - goes to D12
Sensor ground - GRN/WHT - goes to D22
Sensor voltage - RED/WHT - goes to D19 or D20

EVAP Purge Control Solenoid: (searched for this)
Black = ground / power from ecu
Other wire (can’t remember what color, as I’m at work): A-20 (remember, this is OBDI)
Didn’t wire up the bypass control solenoid valve cuz I couldn’t find the wiring info for it. I did have a grey plug into it, but the wires went nowhere (it was all show…lol).

Next, I got a USDM p13 5-speed ecu. The techs will inspect this for codes, but none of them really questioned me about it or asked for proof (I heard some refs ask for proof from Honda that it’s the right ecu). Found one on h-t as well.

I think that pretty much covers what I installed that wasn’t already on the car.

Here’s what I changed throughout the process to finally pass:
1. Spark Plugs – Went with NGK, oem spec spark plugs
2. Spark Plug Wires – NGK
3. New o2 sensor – Denso
4. PCV Valve - oem one
5. Oil Change
6. Oil Filter
Was also having problems with my cat, so I put on an OBD2 ITR cat that I found with 21K miles. Much better than cheap carsound ones.

After failing a couple times, did a few other things:
1. Fuel Injection Cleaning
2. Seafoam (do before oil change)
3. Cleaned EGR Valve

Then, take it for a spin, make sure there’s no codes, and get it tested. Here’s my tip though, get a pretest done to make sure you pass the sniffer. I did NOT do that, and failed a few times, at which point my registration expired and I wasn’t able to drive it (got temporary tags for a while, but those ran out…lol) until now. Also ran it hard before the test, and all the other smog tips out there (but it sat for like 30-40 minutes before it was tested ).

That’s my writeup. Hopefully, it helps people get an idea of what’s needed, etc. I’d post my BAR sticker, but don’t have my digi cam with me and I just got BARd this morning.

Let me know if you guys have any questions.


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Old 10-10-2006, 10:30 AM
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nice writeup

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not bad
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Good work. Ill be using this info one day.
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Good write up! H22 CA guys have needed this!
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<------ BAR'in my H22a now as we speak
Old 11-09-2006, 02:19 PM
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can you keep your A/C with the H22 in a eg?
Old 11-13-2006, 04:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nomotor &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">can you keep your A/C with the H22 in a eg? </TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah, you need to buy a kit though for it.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Alchemist &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Good write up! H22 CA guys have needed this! </TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks.
Yeah, all i could find during the process was for b-series, so put this up. hopefully it helps people out.
Old 11-13-2006, 04:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by H_doubledeuce_A1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">&lt;------ BAR'in my H22a now as we speak
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Good luck. The state ref in Alameda is pretty cool. He didn't harass me about the aem short ram like the ones in LA. And when I went back after failing the first time (within a week), he put me right on the sniffer.
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Yea, I live in Richmond area so I went to CCC in San Pablo. Failed btw. Going to try a second time, after I figure out why I failed. Might be my 02 sensor............Hmmmm
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by H_doubledeuce_A1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yea, I live in Richmond area so I went to CCC in San Pablo. Failed btw. Going to try a second time, after I figure out why I failed. Might be my 02 sensor............Hmmmm</TD></TR></TABLE>

what were your numbers like?
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%C02 %02 HC CO(%) NOX
Test RPM MEAS MEAS MAX MEAS MAX MEAS MAX MEAS
15mph 1965rpm 11.0 4.9 121 195 0.76 0.65 807 2282 GROSS POLLUTER

25mph 2243 11.6 4.4 96 96 0.65 0.11 746 214

Its funny fails the 15mph only NOX and HC but passes the 25 mph with flying colors. Cleaned out my O2 sensor a day before the BAR because I was suffering major hesitation from 2.5k to 3.5k no hesitation after a day, and then it came back. I think that's why I failed the smog part of the test. So I'm thinking it might be my O2 sensor that's holding me back from passing. I replaced the Cap, Rotor, plugs, wires, coil, and my cat has about 10k or less on it. So my plans are getting it pretested with the new o2 sensor and cross my fingers. Any help will be greatly apreciated.

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try cleaning out your egr valve as well.
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Good write up, thank God I don't have to worry about this.

WESTSIIIIIIIIIIIDEEE, haha.
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can u help me bar my car?
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what do you need help with?
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Thanks Braco for the hard work and time invested in this, us Cali guys appreciate it, I want to try and bar my 96 wondering if the same applies being obd 2. But I have a obd 1 engine and ecu??
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QUESTION????? did you wire up the ECT?? by chance do you know if the stock intake from the prelude will fit into my civic eg6?? i am almost done wiring everything up just need to hook up the EgR and EcT.. do they run you engine serial number??
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slp mode &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks Braco for the hard work and time invested in this, us Cali guys appreciate it, I want to try and bar my 96 wondering if the same applies being obd 2. But I have a obd 1 engine and ecu?? </TD></TR></TABLE>

definitely won't be able to pass an obdI motor in a 96.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slp mode &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks Braco for the hard work and time invested in this, us Cali guys appreciate it, I want to try and bar my 96 wondering if the same applies being obd 2. But I have a obd 1 engine and ecu?? </TD></TR></TABLE>

didn't run my engine serial number....but it's a jdm motor so i wouldn't know about usdm motors. as for ect, to be honest, not sure what that is. all i had to wire up was what i wrote about. as for the prelude airbox, my guess is that it might be too long (don't know) given that my aem short ram was slightly too long (had to cut it).
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another QUESTION???
you say you didn't wire up the EVap sensor.. all you did was plug it up and ran the wire where?? and also have you taken pix of your engine bay?? might come in handy..
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i didn't wire up the bypass control solenoid...i did wire up the EVAP. for the bypass control wires, i just ran them to the back of my engine bay and they just disappeared. lol.

can get pics of the engine bay, but what exactly are you looking for?
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i am looking for your EGr plugs and which sensor you plug in for show.. i am guessing the bypass control solenoid... and where did you mount the EVAP sensor..
thanks
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Hello,
I was wondering what u did to finally pass smog. Because I have an eg with a h22 and I am failing emissions. My hc and nox are high and I need to know how to reduce them. Your info will be greatly appreciated.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h22whiteeg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hello,
I was wondering what u did to finally pass smog. Because I have an eg with a h22 and I am failing emissions. My hc and nox are high and I need to know how to reduce them. Your info will be greatly appreciated.</TD></TR></TABLE>

failing only 15 mph or both? what are your numbers like? any cels?
pretty much everything i did in this writeup is how i passed.


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