Det Cans
03-10-2006, 12:38 PM
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Det Cans
Has anyone used this as a reliable source of detecting knock? I'm about to make myself some using a copper tube and some fuel line and hopefully I can pretty much replace having to pull plugs all the time which gets old. 
If any of you have any experience with using a Det can setup like this let me know because from what I hear it is much more accurate than using an electronic device for detecting knock.
If any of you have any experience with using a Det can setup like this let me know because from what I hear it is much more accurate than using an electronic device for detecting knock.
03-10-2006, 01:00 PM
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Re: Det Cans (SOHC_MShue)
Sounds like you are making something like the soupcan and string phone?
I've never heard of anything called a "Det (detonation right?) Can"
I've never heard of anything called a "Det (detonation right?) Can"
03-10-2006, 03:34 PM
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Re: Det Cans (splitime)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by splitime »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sounds like you are making something like the soupcan and string phone?
I've never heard of anything called a "Det (detonation right?) Can" </TD></TR></TABLE>
yup its called Det can. I was searching around on the EFI101 forum and there were a number of posts where people spoke of them and said how much better they work for them than the electronic listening devices. I've almost got mine built now. I cant wait
I've never heard of anything called a "Det (detonation right?) Can"
</TD></TR></TABLE>yup its called Det can. I was searching around on the EFI101 forum and there were a number of posts where people spoke of them and said how much better they work for them than the electronic listening devices. I've almost got mine built now. I cant wait
03-10-2006, 04:00 PM
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Re: Det Cans (SOHC_MShue)
Some tuners here in Scandinavia use this method for detecting knock; it seems to be a both widespread and accurate way of detecting knock, seeing as how a human knows what knock sounds like, where the knock sensor goes "OMG there is some kind of noise!".
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03-10-2006, 04:50 PM
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Re: Det Cans (john breezy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by john breezy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wtf...thats like hooking up a vacum line to you mouth and saying... "im gonna go with 9psi or boost that pass" 
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what on earth are you talking about????
Give us a CLEAR write up on how to read plugs for knock, correctly.
</TD></TR></TABLE>what on earth are you talking about????
Give us a CLEAR write up on how to read plugs for knock, correctly.
03-10-2006, 05:26 PM
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Re: Det Cans (john breezy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by john breezy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wtf...thats like hooking up a vacum line to you mouth and saying... "im gonna go with 9psi or boost that pass" </TD></TR></TABLE>
Nice way to make an *** of yourself
. If you dont believe it works then go on EFI101.com forums and type a search for Det Cans.
BTW guys I just got everything hooked up minus the actual earphones and the thing seems to work great. I get nice clear engine noise on the other end of 9ft of tubing.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Nice way to make an *** of yourself
. If you dont believe it works then go on EFI101.com forums and type a search for Det Cans. BTW guys I just got everything hooked up minus the actual earphones and the thing seems to work great. I get nice clear engine noise on the other end of 9ft of tubing.
03-10-2006, 05:27 PM
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Re: Det Cans (enginetiks)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by enginetiks »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Buy a chassis ear...</TD></TR></TABLE>
This has to be a budget type deal
03-10-2006, 07:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jnasty1845 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Buddy of mines used a Doctor's stethoscope
but interesting Idea nonetheless
DET can clever name lol
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haha yea man i was like wtf when i first saw that today.
but interesting Idea nonetheless
DET can clever name lol
</TD></TR></TABLE>haha yea man i was like wtf when i first saw that today.
03-10-2006, 07:46 PM
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Re: (hondaguyef)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondaguyef »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm interested. SOHC_MSHUE, how does this work? Please explain. Thanks.
Phil</TD></TR></TABLE>
Alright basically you need to get about a 3/8" brass pipe about a few inches long. You need to crush one end completely flat so there is a seal and no sound can get out. Then you construct some way to attach a real long hose line to it(it needs to be a very thick rubber line like fuel line or else it wont work). Then you T that line into 2 seperate lines and run them to a pair of ear protectors(the things that look like head phones). You cut a hole in each side and shove the tubes in there and glue them in if you have to. The Tubes must be air tight. Then you just drill a hole in the brass pipe and mount it somewhere on your block. I chose to mount mine on the front of the block near cylinders 3 and 4.
Phil</TD></TR></TABLE>
Alright basically you need to get about a 3/8" brass pipe about a few inches long. You need to crush one end completely flat so there is a seal and no sound can get out. Then you construct some way to attach a real long hose line to it(it needs to be a very thick rubber line like fuel line or else it wont work). Then you T that line into 2 seperate lines and run them to a pair of ear protectors(the things that look like head phones). You cut a hole in each side and shove the tubes in there and glue them in if you have to. The Tubes must be air tight. Then you just drill a hole in the brass pipe and mount it somewhere on your block. I chose to mount mine on the front of the block near cylinders 3 and 4.
03-10-2006, 07:49 PM
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Re: (Blaze45)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Blaze45 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Link to thread please.... Cause Im to lazy to look for it right now... haha</TD></TR></TABLE>
http://www.efi101.com/forum/vi...a118d here is a link to the efi101 tuning tips forum. The first few threads are all talking about detonation detection and det cans are mentioned a few times. I got one of the guys on there to send me an email detailing it and i also searched the web and found a couple writeups as well.
http://www.efi101.com/forum/vi...a118d here is a link to the efi101 tuning tips forum. The first few threads are all talking about detonation detection and det cans are mentioned a few times. I got one of the guys on there to send me an email detailing it and i also searched the web and found a couple writeups as well.
03-12-2006, 12:01 AM
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Re: (komat)
what silent detonation? If its knocking there is going to be noise. That is what this is for is picking up that "silent" detonation that you cannot usually hear without some kind of major amplification.
03-12-2006, 10:22 AM
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Re: (boosted94cx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted94cx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">pm J.Davis and ask him about his audibale knock detector idea....it's a FUCKTON better than this mess </TD></TR></TABLE>
since you seem to bee on his nuts perhaps you can get him to chime in
</TD></TR></TABLE>since you seem to bee on his nuts perhaps you can get him to chime in