K24 swap in a prelude?
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07-30-2005, 06:13 PM
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k24 is from an element, wouldn't be much useful in a prelude. a k20 is tsx/rsx motor which woudl be good. some guys swapping them into EK/EG's do a k24 block w/ the vtec k20 head. i saw it in sport compact car i think... i thought about trying k24/k20 combo but as of now I don't have the money or the time to attempt it. i'm pretty sure it hasn't been done. if someone ever does and swap kits are available, please believe i'll be swapping that bitch over
07-30-2005, 06:37 PM
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Re: (popRAWvtec)
i dont kno of any companies that make a kit for them, but i have seen a K24 dropped into a 5th gen prelude... it was all custom fabrication for all the motor mounts and everything... i have also seen a K20 RSX-S motor in a EG hatch.. that was all custom too. it was clean and fast as hell. it was custom right down to the header.... so it is possible, just a lot of work.. the guy with the K20 hatch, told me it took him 2 weeks just to custom the motor mounts and the header... so it is a lot of work.. 
07-30-2005, 07:26 PM
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Re: (AEMPrelude916)
http://www.speedtechracing.com...d=11# heres one with the K20 in a hatch....
http://www.hybrid-racing.com/fabrication.html theres some parts if u want to swap... and ill look for more in a lil bit....
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1282794 FMI... check out this thread....
http://www.hybrid-racing.com/fabrication.html theres some parts if u want to swap... and ill look for more in a lil bit....
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1282794 FMI... check out this thread....
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08-09-2005, 05:17 PM
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Re: (ludeboi121)
There are 3 different versions of the K24 motor.
K24a1 makes 160hp@6000rpm with 161lbs@3600rpm, comes from a Honda CRV and has a 9.6:1 compression ratio.
K24a2 makes 200hp@6800rpm with 166lbs@4500rpm, comes from an Acura TSX and has a 10.5:1 compression ratio. *This is essentially a K20a2 head mated to a 2.4liter bottem end*
K24a3 makes 160hp@5500rpm with 161@4500rpm, comes from both the Honda Accord and Element and has a 9.7:1 compression ratio.
As of yet I have only seen one prelude with a K-series motor in it. It was a 5th gen with a K20a (JDM ITR) motor. I feel the main reason for the lack of K-swaps into preludes is the fact that the prelude comes with an H22, and although the K-motor appears to overall be a better motor, the cost of swapping a K-motor would likely outweigh the cost of building the original H-motor to a stock K's potential. I'm not aware of what a K-powered prelude puts down ET wise so it's hard to make a valid comparison.
K24a1 makes 160hp@6000rpm with 161lbs@3600rpm, comes from a Honda CRV and has a 9.6:1 compression ratio.
K24a2 makes 200hp@6800rpm with 166lbs@4500rpm, comes from an Acura TSX and has a 10.5:1 compression ratio. *This is essentially a K20a2 head mated to a 2.4liter bottem end*
K24a3 makes 160hp@5500rpm with 161@4500rpm, comes from both the Honda Accord and Element and has a 9.7:1 compression ratio.
As of yet I have only seen one prelude with a K-series motor in it. It was a 5th gen with a K20a (JDM ITR) motor. I feel the main reason for the lack of K-swaps into preludes is the fact that the prelude comes with an H22, and although the K-motor appears to overall be a better motor, the cost of swapping a K-motor would likely outweigh the cost of building the original H-motor to a stock K's potential. I'm not aware of what a K-powered prelude puts down ET wise so it's hard to make a valid comparison.
08-09-2005, 07:45 PM
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Ok here we go again............ok it's always possible with any swaps but with custom mods. I believe it's a K20 and they said the K24 block is too tall and either would scrap down low or the hood wouldn't be able to close, I forgot.
oh and your welcome.......
oh and your welcome.......
08-09-2005, 10:48 PM
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Re: (ludeboi121)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ludeboi121 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there is a lude with a k swap done..its runnign but has bugs right now </TD></TR></TABLE>
IT doesnt have anymore bugs...car works good now.. after we fix that bug ... i drove the car n owner was semi tuning it on the way to Drive shaft shop n made new axle... now is in good healthy condition...
to clear things up this motor thats in the BB6 right now is a K20a2 motor..
</TD></TR></TABLE>IT doesnt have anymore bugs...car works good now.. after we fix that bug ... i drove the car n owner was semi tuning it on the way to Drive shaft shop n made new axle... now is in good healthy condition...
to clear things up this motor thats in the BB6 right now is a K20a2 motor..
08-10-2005, 06:16 AM
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Re: (Honda Sport)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Honda Sport »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">crazy...lots of custom stuff? axles? mounts? anything else?</TD></TR></TABLE>
wire hardness were custom as well as all the things u listed above...
wire hardness were custom as well as all the things u listed above...
08-10-2005, 06:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MNsnowdaboy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok here we go again............ok it's always possible with any swaps but with custom mods. I believe it's a K20 and they said the K24 block is too tall and either would scrap down low or the hood wouldn't be able to close, I forgot.</TD></TR></TABLE>
If it's the 2nd problem, just get a ricer hood with a mean *** scoop so the engine can sit up in the pocket lol.
As a side note, if you're looking to race at all on an open track, it might be better to go with the k24 from the TSX rather than the k20. Some of the K20 teams from the world challenge tried to petition the board so they could use the K24 instead of the K20, reason being to keep up with the rest of the pack they would have to run the engines deep into the red, and engine life and reliability suffered really bad. The TSX guys didnt' have this issue because of the extra torque. In the end the board said yes, but you'll have to stick with the ******* suspesion the RSX comes with.
If it's the 2nd problem, just get a ricer hood with a mean *** scoop so the engine can sit up in the pocket lol.
As a side note, if you're looking to race at all on an open track, it might be better to go with the k24 from the TSX rather than the k20. Some of the K20 teams from the world challenge tried to petition the board so they could use the K24 instead of the K20, reason being to keep up with the rest of the pack they would have to run the engines deep into the red, and engine life and reliability suffered really bad. The TSX guys didnt' have this issue because of the extra torque. In the end the board said yes, but you'll have to stick with the ******* suspesion the RSX comes with.
08-10-2005, 07:27 AM
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what is the use of putting K20 into fat *** prelude?
Even K24 has almost the same torque/hp as H22 and with H22 you avoid all this custom crap.
Even K24 has almost the same torque/hp as H22 and with H22 you avoid all this custom crap.
08-10-2005, 07:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pentaq »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what is the use of putting K20 into fat *** prelude?
Even K24 has almost the same torque/hp as H22 and with H22 you avoid all this custom crap. </TD></TR></TABLE>
k20 into a lude doesnt seem reasonable at all, k24 into lude would be much better, however the tsx k24 uses an electronic TB i believe so your cable accelerator pedal would have to be changed which no one has done yet, either that or slap on the k20 head to the k24 block and thats the best bet, however everything is custom and expensive, the use is k series and its response to bolt ons, k20s are seeing 250 whp with i/h/e/ecu reflash, 250 w/o headwork or internals or cams is sweet, but expensive...
Even K24 has almost the same torque/hp as H22 and with H22 you avoid all this custom crap.
</TD></TR></TABLE>k20 into a lude doesnt seem reasonable at all, k24 into lude would be much better, however the tsx k24 uses an electronic TB i believe so your cable accelerator pedal would have to be changed which no one has done yet, either that or slap on the k20 head to the k24 block and thats the best bet, however everything is custom and expensive, the use is k series and its response to bolt ons, k20s are seeing 250 whp with i/h/e/ecu reflash, 250 w/o headwork or internals or cams is sweet, but expensive...
08-10-2005, 08:00 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pentaq »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what is the use of putting K20 into fat *** prelude?
Even K24 has almost the same torque/hp as H22 and with H22 you avoid all this custom crap. </TD></TR></TABLE>
6 speed tranny for one.
Even K24 has almost the same torque/hp as H22 and with H22 you avoid all this custom crap. </TD></TR></TABLE>
6 speed tranny for one.
08-10-2005, 12:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dougs96SI »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">6 speed tranny for one.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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08-10-2005, 04:08 PM
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The K series are proven to be better at making easy power N/A, and has a lot of potential left.
H22a tranny sucks you all should know by now, K series tranny are a lot smoother too, plus 6 speed baby. Not that at 6th gear in the highway it feels like a smooth V8, but it's better than 4000rpm at 80 in my lude....aaahhhhhh.....
I guess some people see no point to it, the whole SCC thing is all about innovations.
H22a tranny sucks you all should know by now, K series tranny are a lot smoother too, plus 6 speed baby. Not that at 6th gear in the highway it feels like a smooth V8, but it's better than 4000rpm at 80 in my lude....aaahhhhhh.....
I guess some people see no point to it, the whole SCC thing is all about innovations.
08-11-2005, 12:34 AM
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so for being innovative.
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for being innovative.
08-11-2005, 08:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MNsnowdaboy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The K series are proven to be better at making easy power N/A, and has a lot of potential left.
H22a tranny sucks you all should know by now, K series tranny are a lot smoother too, plus 6 speed baby. Not that at 6th gear in the highway it feels like a smooth V8, but it's better than 4000rpm at 80 in my lude....aaahhhhhh.....
I guess some people see no point to it, the whole SCC thing is all about innovations.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You have to understand that we are not comparing a K-series motor to an H-series motor, We are comparing a K-powered prelude to an H-powered prelude. I feel the K-setup is a far better motor/tranny/ecu, but you can expect to pay in 8-10 grand if not more to safely and correctly get a K-motor into a prelude and if you want to do it now, you will have to custom fab alot of parts. We make and sell the parts to peform K-swaps so I am in no way saying don't do it. I'm just saying that you will spend alot more money to perform a k-swap than you would to make your H-faster. And for the H-trannie issue, we're in the works for fixing that problem, just give us a little time...
H22a tranny sucks you all should know by now, K series tranny are a lot smoother too, plus 6 speed baby. Not that at 6th gear in the highway it feels like a smooth V8, but it's better than 4000rpm at 80 in my lude....aaahhhhhh.....
I guess some people see no point to it, the whole SCC thing is all about innovations.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You have to understand that we are not comparing a K-series motor to an H-series motor, We are comparing a K-powered prelude to an H-powered prelude. I feel the K-setup is a far better motor/tranny/ecu, but you can expect to pay in 8-10 grand if not more to safely and correctly get a K-motor into a prelude and if you want to do it now, you will have to custom fab alot of parts. We make and sell the parts to peform K-swaps so I am in no way saying don't do it. I'm just saying that you will spend alot more money to perform a k-swap than you would to make your H-faster. And for the H-trannie issue, we're in the works for fixing that problem, just give us a little time...
08-11-2005, 08:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Goatsterrman »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You have to understand that we are not comparing a K-series motor to an H-series motor, We are comparing a K-powered prelude to an H-powered prelude. I feel the K-setup is a far better motor/tranny/ecu, but you can expect to pay in 8-10 grand if not more to safely and correctly get a K-motor into a prelude and if you want to do it now, you will have to custom fab alot of parts. We make and sell the parts to peform K-swaps so I am in no way saying don't do it. I'm just saying that you will spend alot more money to perform a k-swap than you would to make your H-faster. And for the H-trannie issue, we're in the works for fixing that problem, just give us a little time... </TD></TR></TABLE>
That sums it up. It's a better engine overall, but until the swap gets A LOT cheaper, it's not worth the money.
You have to understand that we are not comparing a K-series motor to an H-series motor, We are comparing a K-powered prelude to an H-powered prelude. I feel the K-setup is a far better motor/tranny/ecu, but you can expect to pay in 8-10 grand if not more to safely and correctly get a K-motor into a prelude and if you want to do it now, you will have to custom fab alot of parts. We make and sell the parts to peform K-swaps so I am in no way saying don't do it. I'm just saying that you will spend alot more money to perform a k-swap than you would to make your H-faster. And for the H-trannie issue, we're in the works for fixing that problem, just give us a little time...
</TD></TR></TABLE>That sums it up. It's a better engine overall, but until the swap gets A LOT cheaper, it's not worth the money.
08-11-2005, 08:35 AM
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Re: (Goatsterrman)
whoa that is nice --- it looks like a smaller engine than the H22 the torque numbers are the same besides being able to run k pro why would somebody do this to a prelude-- I have seen a k24 in a 05 civic si but in a prelude -- more torque is what it takes to move the 2800 lb. prelude and while I have seen huge horsepower gains from the k series with mods the torque increases have been around 10-15% ---