JDMlyfestyle

Ive been using crome beta v 1.1 and i like it so far way better than Uber imo.

Im thinkin about gettin the crome pro. who all is using it in here? PGMFI forums are way too slow.

What do u like about the program?

How is the datalogging? is it slower or right on with live feed?

If any one is willing to send me a copy of the crome pro please lemme know. i wanna try it out. thanks

JDM

0mtber

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It works great & is worth every penny

gaskleppie

I use it for a while now and I like it a lot!
A copy of crome pro will not work on your laptop, its protected.

Worth every penny.

Hybrid96EK

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gaskleppie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I use it for a while now and I like it a lot!
A copy of crome pro will not work on your laptop, its protected.

Worth every penny.
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What do you mean? You can put it on your laptop just fine. If you mean someone elses copy, then your right. If you reinstall the OS it requires a new key also. John is pretty good about it though...

I have used it for about a month now and it has worked very well. Ditch the 1.1 version though... many new features added to the 1.16 version that make it worth the time to get. I have tuned two cars with it so far and the results are nothing short of amazing.

mrbsponge

mtber, is a crome pro tuner...... and all the cars he has done work beautifully from what i have seen, and it is better than uber IMO

Hybrid96EK

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Its a million times better then Uberdata. Always has been.

2.2motore

i have the beta, what i want to know is,does the pro have a real time map tracer?

airshifter

pro has realtime map trace and also traces in graph view

been using for a while and love it

get a moates ostrich and you will really like(real time emulation)

Hybrid96EK

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by airshifter &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">pro has realtime map trace and also traces in graph view

been using for a while and love it

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Kinda pricey. I built the PGMFI RTP kit... Cost me $40.

pr0honda

so how does crome pro work? have to get burner for the chip in the ecu? i dont know much about this stuff so if someone could expain i would appreciate it. how much does it cost? if i want to tune myself with this what do i need to buy? thanx

shawn

Hybrid96EK

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pr0honda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so how does crome pro work? have to get burner for the chip in the ecu? i dont know much about this stuff so if someone could expain i would appreciate it. how much does it cost? if i want to tune myself with this what do i need to buy? thanx

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You will need the burner and the software for the burner. I recommend Batronix. You can get the burner kit for $100... you have to assemble it, its not hard.. Then you want a ROM editor to make things easier, thats where Crome comes into play. Its $149 to register Crome if you want to use the "pro" features. That enables datalogging, knock logging and the tuner/dyno portions of the program. Again, this isn't needed, but makes things run a lot quicker. Also, you will need to of course chip your ECU and you should get an RTP interface as it will GREATLY speed up tunning time..

Its tempting, but keep in mind you cannot charge people to tune thier car with Crome. Its in the EULA of Crome, so don't think you can make a quick buck off the setup. Not saying this is what is in your mind.

pr0honda

i was just looking into it my engine is on the engine dyno right now and we were using dta to tune it. i sent my ecu to kenji in tampa awhile ago so i was planning on having him chip it for me. so i guess i have to decide sometime soon. can you list where i can get all the stuff you listed?

Hybrid96EK

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http://www.batronix.com is where you can get the burner. It comes with software also, very nice I might add.

the rest comes from http://www.pgmfi.org

If you want to make a cheap wideband, http://www.diy-wb.com is a great site also. I use this very wideband with awesome results.

0mtber

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If your only tuning an n/a vehicle without itbs or anything out of this world. You really don't need to spend the money on crome pro. You should be able to tune the vehicle without datalogging :-)

It is nice to have the extra features, but on simple n/a setups its really not needed.

JoeB18R

the basic interface and programming + ease of use of crome is WAY better then uberdata.

Hybrid96EK

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mtber &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If your only tuning an n/a vehicle without itbs or anything out of this world. You really don't need to spend the money on crome pro. You should be able to tune the vehicle without datalogging :-)

It is nice to have the extra features, but on simple n/a setups its really not needed.
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Well, you would need some form of ability to log wideband/lambda readings. The use of a computer based application just makes it a lot easier.

Bambooseven

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I use crome pro, it is fantastic. woohoo for crome.

gldndrgn14

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so what exactly does crome pro have over the unregistered version? tps based maps, real time datalogging is better? what else?

oh and since we are on diy chipping sort of, has anybody put this in?
http://www.moates.net/product_...id=78
and if so is it compatible with datalogging for crome?

Hybrid96EK

CromeFree (0 USD)
- Friendly Interface
- Toolbars for quick access to common commands
- Undo/Redo history
- Import/Export maps
- Edit in Table View or 2D Graph View
- Support for OBD1 P28, P30, P72 variant ROMs
- Highly customizable and extensible with use of plugins (allows for extra features to be added to both the ROM and the software)
- Built-in fuel multiplier to reduce the guesswork when changing to different size injectors
- Built-in boost tables adjustment
- Map Smoothing tool helps get rid of spikes (best seen on graph view)
- Keep track of changes with ROM notes
- Real-Time Programming capable, with support for Xtronics ROMulator, Moates Ostrich/BURN1, and PGMFI RTP*
- I know there's more of the basic features like Cut/Copy/Paste, etc., but there are too many to list

CromePro (149 USD)
- All features included in CromeFree
- Datalogging (includes: rpm, speed, gear, MAP, boost, TPS, injector duration, duty cycle, ignition advance, knock retard, air temp, coolant temp, o2 voltage, lambda, VTC, CEL Codes). Now with Auto-Save feature so you'll never lose that valuable tuning time if your PC shuts down.
- Map tracing allows you to follow where within the maps you currently are. This is great when dynoing your car so you can pinpoint exactly where things need to be changed (this also works with ITB applications where the tables are indexed with both MAP sensor and TP sensor). And with RTP, you can make changes and get results instantaneously.
- Lambda Logging keeps track of lambda/AFR readings on a given cell in the table. This lets you know what areas of the map are running lean or rich. The more acurate your hardware is, the more accurate the reading will be as well.
- Knock Logging keeps track of knock retard value applied on a given cell in the table. This will allow you to fine tune the ignition tables to get the most out of your motor without the risk of detonating.
- Auto-Adjustments eases the work of tuning by letting the software make the appropriate changes to the tables according to the readings from the Lambda and Knock Loggers. This feature is user definable and can be set to tune agressively or moderately.
- *Live Auto-Adjustments will apply the Auto-Adjustments to the maps after every given interval or sample count. This will allow for changes to be made continually while driving without the user having to manually click the 'Auto-Adjustment' button.
- Datalog Replay lets you save and open datalogs so they can be analyzed and viewed at a more convenient time.
- Lambda Offset adjustment lets you fine tune your lambda reading by applying an offset value to match Cromes readings with the Wide-Band's display
- *DynoTools is a new feature that will let you take a datalog and calculate the estimated horsepower and torque. This will require a clean run without any wheelspin in order to achieve more acurate results.
- *Data Filter uses statistical analysis to weed out bad readings in the lambda tables
- *Smart Fill helps speed up the tuning process by filling in blank spaces in the lambda table. No longer do you have to try to fill in every spot on the table, Smart fill will analyze the surrounding cells of an empty cell and performs a simple calculation to determine what value goes into the empty space
- ** Tune Wizard is a simple (point and click) wizard that will make suggestions as to what is the approriate action for tuning. This give some intelligence to the software and free the user from having to make decisions such as whether to change the overall fuel multiplier or change individual cells.
- **Data Graphing lets you review datalog files in graph mode to have a better sense of whats going on.

blundar

Cromepro is amazing. Great tool. I use it daily.

gldndrgn14

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what about the boost tools and the itb tools? can they be used in conjunction, unlike the crome 1.16 unregistered version?

Hybrid96EK

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Yes. You don't need to register it to use those tools... But no, I don't think you could use them in conjunction with each other. Be kinda hard to boost with ITB's

machine4321

now that pro had been fully explained im gonna have to get it now lol

i know how good the beta works...i cant waittill i can afford this

JDM_Ej

Crome Pro is excellent... especially the auto-tune feature. Now if I could only get it to work.

2k.civic.si

crome pro use it almost every day at the shop...great for checking readings off sensors for quick diag