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Old 01-23-2005, 01:22 PM
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After a long wait, I finally got my car dyno tuned yesterday. I didn't make the power I expected, but none the less I am happy and the car runs great and feels very powerful. The dynoing was done on a dynojet dynamometer (model# 248C) at AEBS on Miramar Rd. in San Diego, CA and was tuned by Aries, who did a great job on the tuning part.(He really knows his ****).

For those who do not know me, I am running an allmotor B18b in a 92 Civic Si HB. The graph setup will be listed at the bottom of this post. To those who have keep track of my progress know that I have had a few problems; one: running rich as hell, and two: an oil leak that has been driving me nuts. Well I knew the fuel aspect would be fixed upon tuning, but after replacing the oil pan gasket I thought the leak had stopped and had not had any problems for a few days. Just as my luck has it though on the morning of the dyno I sprung another oil leak on the way there. None the less I was still able to dyno. So we strapped the car down and adjusted the ignition timing since it was retarded all the way(It would barely run at stock timing).

So here we go run #1 of 18 total runs, and I put down 140.6 whp and 116.3 ft-lbs. of torque. I was like WTF ! Thats way too low I thought, but we were just getting started. So some adjusts were made to the fuel to lean it out on the low end and the fuel pressure was raised and before I knew it we were up to 160 whp by run #6. Now came time to play with the cam gears, and though Aries tried everything I only gained 4whp by advancing the Intake cam +2.5 DEG and advancing the Exhaust cam +2.0 DEG; which now put me at 164 whp. Now we are back to tuning fuel and adjusting timing to squeeze out as much as possible. So now after 16 runs on the dyno I am up to 169.6 whp and 131.9 ft-lbs. tq. After realizing this is about as much as we are going to get out of this motor without a lil more head work and a better fuel management system(like Hondata instead of my SAFC-II), Aries and Doug come up with one last idea to try and make power. Well now we are at the end, dynorun #18 and here are the final numbers:

<FONT SIZE="2">170.3 WHP, 135.4 ft-lbs. TQ</FONT>

The Dyno Sheet:


Run #18: 170.3 WHP, 135.4 ft-lbs. TQ
Run #16: 169.6 WHP, 131.9 ft-lbs. TQ
Run #01: 141.6 WHP, 116.3 ft-lbs. TQ


The Setup:
1992 Civic Si HB
B18A Block/ B18B Head
-Mild PnP
-Crower 404 w/ JG Cam Gears
-Crower Valvesprings
-Ferrea SS Valves
-Cometic Head Gasket
-Skunk2 IM
-64mm TB
-Modified Iceman intake
-JDM ITR 4-1 header w/ 2.5" collector
-No Cat
-2.5" custom piping and exhaust
-P30 B16 Pistons
-Stock Rods
-GSR Tranny w/ LSD
-Exedy Flywheel
-Clutch Specialties 6-puck clutch
-SAFC2
-Chipped P75


After everything is said and done and drove the car, I am throughly happy as the car feels a hell of a lot faster. From the first run to the last run, 30 whp was gained and should make ppl realize how important tuning is!

Big thanks to Aries for an excellent job on the tuning aspect and to AEBS for use of the dyno. Also thanks to Doug who was there to help and witness the whole ordeal; and thanks to Gabe at JDM Concepts for introducing me to Aries.

Thoughts and comments please.
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Old 01-23-2005, 02:26 PM
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Awesome man. 10hp away from your expectations. But a 30hp gain would make my day.

Keep us posted when you switch engine management.
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I had fun working on it and learned a lot!


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybrid_vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Aries and Doug come up with one last idea to try and make power. Well now we are at the end, dynorun #18 and here are the final numbers:
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glad you enjoy you motor's newly found power. i bet it feels like night and day. definitely keep in touch when you need anymore tuning.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by @ries &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">glad you enjoy you motor's newly found power. i bet it feels like night and day. definitely keep in touch when you need anymore tuning. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Definitely will! The difference is definitely night and day. It feels like it has so much more power now. Only problem now is that oil leak, so I have that seal on order, so hopefully that'll do the trick.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Shakes &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had fun working on it and learned a lot!

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You liked the sound of those cams didn't you!
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Good ****, the 19lbs of torque is a lot. @ries knows his way around a Honda
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congrats man..good to see you finally finally made it to a dyno...good numbers. nice torque.

i know i sold it to you..but get rid of that safc
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non vtak powa
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nice numbers
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very nice!
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good numbers
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Wow... they really got every little bit of HP out of that motor. Great #s for an all motor LS.
Old 01-23-2005, 06:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Y2K Si FBP &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">congrats man..good to see you finally finally made it to a dyno...good numbers. nice torque.

i know i sold it to you..but get rid of that safc </TD></TR></TABLE>


Yea I've been told. So am looking into Hondata and uberdata. Dont be a stranger Ed, drop me an email sometime and let me know how things are going with your project.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rodrez. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Good ****, the 19lbs of torque is a lot. @ries knows his way around a Honda </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes he does! I will vouch for that.
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Aries is the man! He tuned 201 whp out of my GSR using USDM ITR pistons. And that was through a restrictive Apexi World sport Exhaust. if it was unbolted, Aries belived I would of been at least 205+ on that same Dynojet which is known to read low
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and btw he also tuned 135 tq out of the GSR, OEM GSR crank and rods too!
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Those are some good numbers for an allmotor LS non-vtec engine.
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Really impressive Considering @ries used to hide in the library at lunch in high school.
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ok you think you're good? ill run you man, i got knock-off-bolt-ons gsr...hehe jk

good tune and nice gained, lets smoke some type-r's
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Thanx to everyone replying to this thread. I will have pics up by the end of the week.
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nice hyrid, glad to see everything went good. Dam 30 hp gain. People take note to how important tuning is, and at that, to the WHEELS. Sh*t thats like, what, 40-60 to the flywheel. (wipes sweat off forehead)

Well my setup is the same but I have Ctr pistons and 405a cams, project still coming slow for me. Need to get the motor assembled.

Now go to the track and show us some #'s.


vtec KILLER, halla
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good stuff!!! @ries needs to come to hickville and tune my car when it's done!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by volcom40street &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nice hyrid, glad to see everything went good. Dam 30 hp gain. People take note to how important tuning is, and at that, to the WHEELS. Sh*t thats like, what, 40-60 to the flywheel. (wipes sweat off forehead)

Well my setup is the same but I have Ctr pistons and 405a cams, project still coming slow for me. Need to get the motor assembled.

Now go to the track and show us some #'s.


vtec KILLER, halla</TD></TR></TABLE>

Curious to see how your setup turns out! Keep me up to speed on it from time to time.
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Aries tuned my Scion to make over 1XX HP...I "heart" Aries!!


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