Jwbetley

I have a 94 civic dx. Bought it with a blown motor and swaped a high mileage d16z6 vtec motor in just to get it runnin again. Heres the quick story... Read it only if your interest, skip to the Q if not.

So.. I bought the car ripped immediately removed the motor and tranny. Didnt even bother takin the cv axles out of the wheel hubs cause I couldnt crack the wheel hub hex nuts! So I got the motor and tranny in, got it running, and decided to tow it up to a local Meineke for CV axles. The guy said he'd do it "under the table" for 250.00 including the axles and tow. I get the car back procede to wear it in. A few miles down the road, I start to hear a grinding noise. I decided to take the car back to Meineke and ask what it is. "Oh, that sound, yea, yea, that your throw-out bearing, you need a new throw out bearing" said manager Mat at meineke. So I immediately parked the car in my driveway, the noise perpetuating as I shift trough the taunted gears. As Im comin home from Autozone, clutch set in my lap, I begin to discourage my decision to reuse the old clutch. In the hot persisting sun, I began the install. I cracked the recently replaced hub axle hex nut. As I swung the hub assembly up, releasing the axle from the transmission, I saw no more than a drop of oil persperate from the transaxle. I was devestated that there was no oil in thre transmission! I went ahead and replaced the clutch and throwout-bearing. After puting it all back together and properly filled the transmission with the correct oil, I was convinced the problem was solved. As I started the car, the noise persisted. I coul hear it at idle; a small whiny grind that escalated with RPM. The car drove with this noise but seemed to become less distinct as I put miles on it; however, it has always been present. I have been living with this subtle noise since June, but now, it has escalated into a devestating grind, resulting in an overwhelming sense of unreliablity in my beloved Civic!

Well, heres my question.

The damage has escalated... Now when I accelerate through 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, the noise has become scarry, making me cringe as I moderately accelerate to my desired speed. 4th and 5th gear are flawless, giving me comfort with highway travel. I am just wondering if anyone has had any of the same symptoms or know what the problem is... Also, being that I did not resurface my flywheel when I replaced my clutch, I think I am experienceing some clutch chatter, but Im not sure. Basically, when i accelerate from first gear, it will suddenly become very choppy, causing me to either stall out or attempt to start over. This feeling also occurs occasionally when shifting to 2nd. Is this clutch chatter?

Also, one more thing. The car doesnt really go in reverse... I have to jam it while reving the **** out of it. It is very anoying to alway try park. Could this be linked to the other symptoms I am experiencing?

But heres the question... How reliable is my car at this point? Will it last another 5 months? I know it seems prettyt bad, but sounds aren't always everything... I go to shool 3 hours away, all Highway, traveling back and forth every couple of weeks or so. Besides that, the car is not driven, besides a few miles a week for the gym. I just wanna know if it is worth bringing back to school, cause I dont want it to sh#$ the bed on me...

OPINIONS PLEASE...
Sorry for going off, but I got bored THANKS for visiting my post, and have a wonderfull day

JDM-EJ1

My tranny recently went as well (although mine is an AT), now I'm not sure if this is the same between MT and AT trannies, but when mine was going out, I would hear like a humming noise, it kind of sounded like a siren, and then one day it just **** out.

ZacCarter

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Mine grinds also. Try some GM synchro-mesh. Or some of the lucas tranny stuff, soon i am going to be putting something in there to see if i can make things better.

Jwbetley

I had actually put lucas transmission oil in the transmission earlier but didn't seem to help me. It is a whining sound I am hearing, but it just disapears in 4th and 5th gear.

Does your whining continue through all the gears?

ZacCarter

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mine whines through 1st and 2nd, i have a nice little leak in mine where the case halves come together.

Jwbetley

not too sure what im gonna due... Im drivin the car everyday, not pushin it past 3k... Im gonna try to wait it out till spring and pray that it doesn't shi# the bed on me!

I had a similar problem in a cavalier with oil leaking through the transmission casing. I ended up solvin that problem with liquid weld... You can give that a try if your handy... but good luck

Yamaha17

my tranny made the same noise in a 98 hx i replaced the tranny from a wrecking yard cost me a total of $375 after bought clutch

shifty35

Maybe an input shaft bearing, or any bearing in there. Just find a new D-series tranny, they are cheap and easy to come by.

HXvtec

my tranny is about to take a **** too. pops out of 2nd 3rd and 5th gear. and makes a funny noise. oh well only bought if for 100 bux. oh yea the clutch slips like a bitch too.

Jwbetley

Oh, I have no intentions replacing the transmission. I have an ls motor in my shed and a GSR LSD trans on its way... Gonna live with it and pray that it will last. Please take a look at my other post "Integra clutch/flywheel Q's Help"

Really lookin for some feedback, or bump it for me... But thanks for the sugestions

EE_Chris

Since it was a just stock Ex with a stock open diff tranny, removing the axles (and not draining the tranny fluid) should let the fluid spill out with ease - you say you had none come out.

And I can't imagine that bearings are going to last long with no lube, so the tranny really may be done for.

When the tranny on my 99 hatch took a ****, the input shaft bearing and mainshaft bearing (opposite end of same shaft) were done. The mainshaft bearing - the actual ***** had become chipped. When taking off (and idle) the thing sounded like it was going to explode until I got up to highway speed.

Calvinator

My tranny is currently having the same problems right now. I thought it was the throw out bearing since the noise went away when I disengaged the clutch, but I have a feeling its the input shaft bearing. Do you think its worth replacing the input shaft bearing and taking the risk of having other problems or just buying a new tranny since there really cheap.

JeffS

It's hard to tell from your description, but it could be the mainshaft bearing. It's a common point of failure in the d-series transmissions.

If that's what it is it'll make noise:

- sitting still in neutral with the clutch out. Push the clutch in and it'll stop
- under acceleration, more noticable in the lower gears.

I ran one for thousands of miles with this noise before replacing it. It could go at any time though, taking out the whole tranny with it.

EE_Chris

Well, after replacing both bearings in my tranny, its still holding up just fine (10k so far).

Both bearings w/ shipping came to about $50, so if you have an extra set of hands, go ahead and replace'em yourself - its certainly not hard.

Calvinator

So I mgiht as well change out the mainshaft bearing when I change the input shaft bearing? Is there anything I should know when replacing the main shaft bearing?

EE_Chris

****, the mainshaft bearing is the easier of the two - once you crack open the tranny halves, that particular bearing is just sitting (literally - its not pressed or anything) right on top. You have to remove the whole gear cluster in order to get to the ISB though - again, not hard but a second set of hands is INVALUABLE for this.

When my tranny took a ****, everyone on here (including the search results) said "ISB, ISB, ISB" - so I went ahead and ordered it. Then come to find out, the mainshaft bearing was in waaaaay worse shape than the ISB but nobody mentioned that this bearing could be bad.

So if the car is starting to sound like a tank (idle, taking off in 1st, perhaps 2nd and 3rd), then that bearing is probably toast. If all you have is a whine, thats more than likely the ISB.

Calvinator

wel, my tranny has like 200k on it! so I might as well change both bearings. Thanks for your help man. I hope it isn't that hard.

Calvinator

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Both bearings w/ shipping came to about $50, so if you have an extra set of hands, go ahead and replace'em yourself - its certainly not hard.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hey man, where did you get the bearing for 50$ shipped? Are they oem? I looked on slhondaparts.com and the mainshaft bearing alone was about 42$ and the ISP was 18$. Do you know anywhere to get it cheaper?

Calvinator

Also, can anyone confirm if im looking at the correct part for the mainshaft bearing from http://www.slhondaparts.com. The part number is 91004-pl3-b03 . Thanks

DaX

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Sounds like a bearing inside the transmission is getting ready to **** on you. My ISB in my VX went out and destroyed the main shaft, and also embedding metal particulate under my oil guides. It took out the input shaft seal with it and leaked oil onto the clutch, destroying it within a few minutes. I was out a tranny and a clutch. The noise could be any and/or all of the ball bearings inside the tranny. I recommend opening it up and finding the culprit(s) before purchasing anything.

Your options are:

1. Replace tranny before something happens.
2. Rebuild tranny with fresh bearings
3. Do nothing and wait for the inevitable.

EE_Chris

#13 - $20.80

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#4 - $16.00

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Calvinator

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sounds like a bearing inside the transmission is getting ready to **** on you. My ISB in my VX went out and destroyed the main shaft, and also embedding metal particulate under my oil guides. It took out the input shaft seal with it and leaked oil onto the clutch, destroying it within a few minutes. I was out a tranny and a clutch. The noise could be any and/or all of the ball bearings inside the tranny. I recommend opening it up and finding the culprit(s) before purchasing anything.

Your options are:

1. Replace tranny before something happens.
2. Rebuild tranny with fresh bearings
3. Do nothing and wait for the inevitable.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think ill go with option #3, haha. jp. yeah, it looks like im going to replace all the bearings in the tranny. ISP, mainshaft, countershaft.

Calvinator

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#13 - $20.80

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#4 - $16.00

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Thanks, EE chris. that was very helpful

DaX

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I think ill go with option #3, haha. jp. yeah, it looks like im going to replace all the bearings in the tranny. ISP, mainshaft, countershaft. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Don't waste your money replacing the needle bearings on the countershaft. I replaced ALL bearings, needle and ball element, the last time I rebuilt my transmission. The needle bearings didn't need replacing at all, but since I had already bought them, I threw them in. You might want to look at replacing your seals too [shifter, diff x 2, input shaft] and your oil guides if they look burnt up.

Calvinator

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Don't waste your money replacing the needle bearings on the countershaft. I replaced ALL bearings, needle and ball element, the last time I rebuilt my transmission. The needle bearings didn't need replacing at all, but since I had already bought them, I threw them in. You might want to look at replacing your seals too [shifter, diff x 2, input shaft] and your oil guides if they look burnt up.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Isn't there a ball bearing on the countershaft also? Yah, i just plan on changing all the of ball bearings and seals. I hope everything goes well. Ill be doing it on sunday.