Runoffs Move to Heartland Park in 2006. Boo.
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Runoffs Move to Heartland Park in 2006. Boo.
This is a letter from SCCA Area 4 Director Erik Skirmants announcing the decision to move the Runoffs from Mid-Ohio to Heartland Park for the 2006-2008 seasons:
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Dear Area 4 Members,
In a word…”Yes”; the contract for the 2006 to 2008 Runoffs is going to Heartland Park in Topeka Kansas. Congratulations to Ray Irwin and staff, and the Topeka community as a whole. Also, best wishes to the local SCCA Regions who now have a monumental task in front of them.
Let me first describe the process that was used and then I will offer my comments in anticipation of the questions I expect to hear.
1. The RFP was sent to tracks throughout the US in June. It was very detailed and asked for specific costs, facilities and even profit sharing proposals.
2. The responses were due back on October 15th.
3. The process to evaluate the proposals was more critical than ever. We knew that at least two major tracks and frankly two entire communities would be aggressively pursuing the Runoffs. Because of the need to remove even the appearance of conflict, due to Heartland Park being next to the SCCA headquarters, a subgroup amongst the BoD was set up to evaluate the proposals; no staff was involved.
4. After the RFP’s were received the SCCA staff did prepare an unedited spreadsheet to assist the Runoffs Committee to start evaluating the bids. This was a simply secretarial type input.
5. The Runoffs Committee had several conference calls and set up an evaluation process with decision criteria and appropriate weighting values. They used the time from late October until the December BoD meeting to prepare a recommendation.
6. During the December BoD meeting the recommendation was reviewed and the rest of the 13 Directors had ample time to ask questions, review the original bids, spreadsheets and discuss this critical decision.
That is the dry version of what took place. Let me elaborate on some notable points and make some personal comments that I think are significant.
1. I did review the two proposals and verified that the HPT proposal used was submitted prior to the Mid-Ohio proposal and that, true to the process, absolutely NO second bids, or late additions were allowed into the mix.
2. The only two Directors that had a relatively easy time deciding were myself and Charlie Clark, local Director to HPT. We both explained (exhaustingly) the reasons, other than our own Area’s selfish interest in the event, for the “correct choice”. However, after much discussion of track features, paddocks, member travel needs, costs, and anything and everything either of us could think of, I do recall commenting that we could drop the BS and admit that we would likely vote in the best interests of our Area anyway. Of course we were both convinced we were doing what was right for the competitors as a whole as well (our primary concern).
3. The debate amongst the two local Directors was by no means the entire discussion and we had several comments from each and every 2004 Director and even asked for input from the two incoming 2005 Directors (who were not voting members for this decision).
4. Votes were private and as soon as the decision was made (and it is final) all 13 Directors adopted the outcome and discussed the positives for the club.
Personally, I am not as disappointed as I would have expected to be. I have reservations about HPT as a drivers track and I have reservations about the actual attendance impact. I do not believe you can make up for losses from the East with hypothetical new attendees from the West and certainly the number of racers local to HPT is much lower. I do have great confidence that Ray Irwin and his staff “get it” and will make the facility as ideal as possible for our needs. I will miss the park like atmosphere at Mid-Ohio very much, but I understand that HPT has an effort underway to upgrade the less picturesque landscape of that facility. Also, as much as I very much appreciate the Richland County support around Mid-Ohio, I am 100% certain that the resources that the Topeka community can put into this event will be even greater. Having been to the Topeka area many times, most importantly for the Solo II Nationals, I can assure you that there are MORE (and lower cost) Hotels, and no issues with the infrastructure to support the Runoffs.
This is a three year contract. This was a very well thought out and impartial process and it will likely turn out to be a positive move for the SCCA; including the average competitor. I am not shy to admit that competitor interest is my primary focus; everyone else’s needs come second and frankly cascade down from satisfied competitors. The fact is we always take care of our workers when the competitor base grows, that is the order of events. Like most competitors I know, I give very generously to any and all worker support opportunities; but first my needs as a heavily invested racer must be met (or I do not participate). I do not think it will be as easy for HPT to accomplish competitor satisfaction as some of the other board members believe it will be; but it will be done. Moving the Runoffs has always been, and always will be, extremely risky. Given the best ever event in 2004, the time between now and the 2006 event will be a challenge for all. In addition to the HPT team the SCCA Regions that support the area and the SCCA staff will meet new and greater challenges in the efforts to not let our beloved Runoffs step backwards, even for a year. It is a premier event and now HPT and the supporting infrastructure must become premier hosts. That is their commitment and we will hold them to it.
So now you know…..the rest of the story. Contact me if you desire more information.
Sincerely,
Erik
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Dear Area 4 Members,
In a word…”Yes”; the contract for the 2006 to 2008 Runoffs is going to Heartland Park in Topeka Kansas. Congratulations to Ray Irwin and staff, and the Topeka community as a whole. Also, best wishes to the local SCCA Regions who now have a monumental task in front of them.
Let me first describe the process that was used and then I will offer my comments in anticipation of the questions I expect to hear.
1. The RFP was sent to tracks throughout the US in June. It was very detailed and asked for specific costs, facilities and even profit sharing proposals.
2. The responses were due back on October 15th.
3. The process to evaluate the proposals was more critical than ever. We knew that at least two major tracks and frankly two entire communities would be aggressively pursuing the Runoffs. Because of the need to remove even the appearance of conflict, due to Heartland Park being next to the SCCA headquarters, a subgroup amongst the BoD was set up to evaluate the proposals; no staff was involved.
4. After the RFP’s were received the SCCA staff did prepare an unedited spreadsheet to assist the Runoffs Committee to start evaluating the bids. This was a simply secretarial type input.
5. The Runoffs Committee had several conference calls and set up an evaluation process with decision criteria and appropriate weighting values. They used the time from late October until the December BoD meeting to prepare a recommendation.
6. During the December BoD meeting the recommendation was reviewed and the rest of the 13 Directors had ample time to ask questions, review the original bids, spreadsheets and discuss this critical decision.
That is the dry version of what took place. Let me elaborate on some notable points and make some personal comments that I think are significant.
1. I did review the two proposals and verified that the HPT proposal used was submitted prior to the Mid-Ohio proposal and that, true to the process, absolutely NO second bids, or late additions were allowed into the mix.
2. The only two Directors that had a relatively easy time deciding were myself and Charlie Clark, local Director to HPT. We both explained (exhaustingly) the reasons, other than our own Area’s selfish interest in the event, for the “correct choice”. However, after much discussion of track features, paddocks, member travel needs, costs, and anything and everything either of us could think of, I do recall commenting that we could drop the BS and admit that we would likely vote in the best interests of our Area anyway. Of course we were both convinced we were doing what was right for the competitors as a whole as well (our primary concern).
3. The debate amongst the two local Directors was by no means the entire discussion and we had several comments from each and every 2004 Director and even asked for input from the two incoming 2005 Directors (who were not voting members for this decision).
4. Votes were private and as soon as the decision was made (and it is final) all 13 Directors adopted the outcome and discussed the positives for the club.
Personally, I am not as disappointed as I would have expected to be. I have reservations about HPT as a drivers track and I have reservations about the actual attendance impact. I do not believe you can make up for losses from the East with hypothetical new attendees from the West and certainly the number of racers local to HPT is much lower. I do have great confidence that Ray Irwin and his staff “get it” and will make the facility as ideal as possible for our needs. I will miss the park like atmosphere at Mid-Ohio very much, but I understand that HPT has an effort underway to upgrade the less picturesque landscape of that facility. Also, as much as I very much appreciate the Richland County support around Mid-Ohio, I am 100% certain that the resources that the Topeka community can put into this event will be even greater. Having been to the Topeka area many times, most importantly for the Solo II Nationals, I can assure you that there are MORE (and lower cost) Hotels, and no issues with the infrastructure to support the Runoffs.
This is a three year contract. This was a very well thought out and impartial process and it will likely turn out to be a positive move for the SCCA; including the average competitor. I am not shy to admit that competitor interest is my primary focus; everyone else’s needs come second and frankly cascade down from satisfied competitors. The fact is we always take care of our workers when the competitor base grows, that is the order of events. Like most competitors I know, I give very generously to any and all worker support opportunities; but first my needs as a heavily invested racer must be met (or I do not participate). I do not think it will be as easy for HPT to accomplish competitor satisfaction as some of the other board members believe it will be; but it will be done. Moving the Runoffs has always been, and always will be, extremely risky. Given the best ever event in 2004, the time between now and the 2006 event will be a challenge for all. In addition to the HPT team the SCCA Regions that support the area and the SCCA staff will meet new and greater challenges in the efforts to not let our beloved Runoffs step backwards, even for a year. It is a premier event and now HPT and the supporting infrastructure must become premier hosts. That is their commitment and we will hold them to it.
So now you know…..the rest of the story. Contact me if you desire more information.
Sincerely,
Erik
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Re: Runoffs Move to Heartland Park in 2006. Boo. (.RJ)
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Re: Runoffs Move to Heartland Park in 2006. Boo. (.RJ)
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I would have to agree.
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Re: Runoffs Move to Heartland Park in 2006. Boo. (jpl95si)
Too bad...guess I'll have to make it up for the last one at Mid-Ohio for at least a few years.
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Re: Runoffs Move to Heartland Park in 2006. Boo. (jpl95si)
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I agree...
Zero elevation change...
</TD></TR></TABLE>I agree...
Zero elevation change...
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Re: Runoffs Move to Heartland Park in 2006. Boo. (jpl95si)
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Agreed!
</TD></TR></TABLE> Agreed!
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Re: Runoffs Move to Heartland Park in 2006. Boo. (Angry Joe)
http://www.hpt.com/news_press_rel_010605.htm
yeah for us. i know you guys don't like it, but us here in the KC area are damned excited about this. at the last general meeting, it was made clear and we are fully aware that we do not currently have the worker and staff support needed for not only 2006, but also the increase in attendance we will have in 05.
i can say it is somewhat unofficially known that the city of topeka agreed to invest $5million to track upgrades in order to get the runoffs. there may not be elevation change like at Mid-Ohio, but there is more than you might think.
Modified by tnord at 11:17 PM 1/6/2005
yeah for us. i know you guys don't like it, but us here in the KC area are damned excited about this. at the last general meeting, it was made clear and we are fully aware that we do not currently have the worker and staff support needed for not only 2006, but also the increase in attendance we will have in 05.
i can say it is somewhat unofficially known that the city of topeka agreed to invest $5million to track upgrades in order to get the runoffs. there may not be elevation change like at Mid-Ohio, but there is more than you might think.
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Re: Runoffs Move to Heartland Park in 2006. Boo. (Angry Joe)
Hello everybody......
I'm new to this board, but wanted to give ya my 2 cents...
I currently drive a 1999 Honda Civic Si in SCCA Nationals (i'm sure some of you know me)
This past year I got a chance to drive at Heartland Park during the "One Lap Of America".....it's not a bad track!
Seriously, there are quite a few spots that are alot more fun than Mid-Ohio - for example - if the Blind, uphill, drop-away, downhill, 100mph+ turn at the end of the straight doesn't get you all warm and fuzzy or have you scared half to death -- you aren't breathing!!!!
On top of that - no elevation change?? You need to go to the track before you can give that opinion....there are plenty of ups and downs -- I won't say as many - but some better and some more rolling than Mid-Ohio.
Hey - don't get me wrong, I like Mid-Ohio, I was fortunate to win the 2004 & 2002 Runoffs in my SSC Honda......but if you like turn 1 under the bridge at Mid-Ohio or the sweeping left before the Carosel you may actually like Heartland Park. It's FAST and has some serious highspeed turns.....did I say its fast???
So - from a driver's standpoint - it may not be "as technical" meaning you don't have to spend years of car development and setup to be fast.......if you can drive and have a BIG SET with a decent car.....IT IS A DRIVER'S TRACK!
Hmmmm.......but it does suck to be 18+ hours away now!!!! You guys in Ohio are closer than me!!!!
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Joel Lipperini
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I'm new to this board, but wanted to give ya my 2 cents...
I currently drive a 1999 Honda Civic Si in SCCA Nationals (i'm sure some of you know me)
This past year I got a chance to drive at Heartland Park during the "One Lap Of America".....it's not a bad track!
Seriously, there are quite a few spots that are alot more fun than Mid-Ohio - for example - if the Blind, uphill, drop-away, downhill, 100mph+ turn at the end of the straight doesn't get you all warm and fuzzy or have you scared half to death -- you aren't breathing!!!!
On top of that - no elevation change?? You need to go to the track before you can give that opinion....there are plenty of ups and downs -- I won't say as many - but some better and some more rolling than Mid-Ohio.
Hey - don't get me wrong, I like Mid-Ohio, I was fortunate to win the 2004 & 2002 Runoffs in my SSC Honda......but if you like turn 1 under the bridge at Mid-Ohio or the sweeping left before the Carosel you may actually like Heartland Park. It's FAST and has some serious highspeed turns.....did I say its fast???
So - from a driver's standpoint - it may not be "as technical" meaning you don't have to spend years of car development and setup to be fast.......if you can drive and have a BIG SET with a decent car.....IT IS A DRIVER'S TRACK!
Hmmmm.......but it does suck to be 18+ hours away now!!!! You guys in Ohio are closer than me!!!!
Best Regards,
Joel Lipperini
'04 & '02 SSC
National Champion
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Re: Runoffs Move to Heartland Park in 2006. Boo. (jlipper81)
update: apparantly the city has given $5million and Mr. Irwin is contributing $10million.
IF THIS IS TRUE, those of us that have ran HPT in the past likely won't even recognize it come runoffs in 06.
IF THIS IS TRUE, those of us that have ran HPT in the past likely won't even recognize it come runoffs in 06.
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Re: Runoffs Move to Heartland Park in 2006. Boo. (elgorey)
it also means that i will continue to live in Kansas City for many years to come.
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Re: Runoffs Move to Heartland Park in 2006. Boo. (JaHsEFx)
I honestly have mixed emotions about this. Living 1 hour from Topeka is a definite plus and for that reason I can't complain. However, IMHO Mid-Ohio is far and away the better drivers track. Maybe my opinion is skewed because on one hand I know HPT like the back of my hand and perhaps take its technical sections for granted, and on the other hand I've only been to Mid-Ohio once. Besides the cost of upgrading the track surface, it's going to take a lot of $$ for HPT to feel less like an asphalt & concrete jungle and more like the park atmosphere that I fell in love with at Mid-Ohio. Yes, mixed emotions.
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Re: Runoffs Move to Heartland Park in 2006. Boo.
I just gotta wonder how many of the people who have given a to Heartland Park have ever driven on the track. Or how many of those have even driven at MidOhio. 
I've never driven at either track but seen both on TV. I saw a NASCAR truck race on TV at Heartland Park a few years ago, and it *looked* like a decent track. IIRC, Boris Said was schooling the majority of the field.
Common sense just tells me a national championship venue should be smack dab in the middle of the country (unless it revolves around different tracks from year to year). And of course the Solo II Championships have been in Topeka for awhile now with no signs of slowing down.
Never been to MidOhio but have been to Heartland Park ... for one of the NHRA national races. NHRA did use some of the roadcourse ... for paddock space.
One final rebuttal: I have raced at VIR and Summit Point, and in comparison, MidOhio appears to have *zero* elevation change.
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to Heartland Park have ever driven on the track. Or how many of those have even driven at MidOhio. I've never driven at either track but seen both on TV.
I saw a NASCAR truck race on TV at Heartland Park a few years ago, and it *looked* like a decent track. IIRC, Boris Said was schooling the majority of the field.Common sense just tells me a national championship venue should be smack dab in the middle of the country (unless it revolves around different tracks from year to year). And of course the Solo II Championships have been in Topeka for awhile now with no signs of slowing down.
Never been to MidOhio but have been to Heartland Park ... for one of the NHRA national races.
NHRA did use some of the roadcourse ... for paddock space.One final rebuttal: I have raced at VIR and Summit Point, and in comparison, MidOhio appears to have *zero* elevation change.
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Re: Runoffs Move to Heartland Park in 2006. Boo. (B. Falfa)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B. Falfa »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">One final rebuttal: I have raced at VIR and Summit Point, and in comparison, MidOhio appears to have *zero* elevation change. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Compared to VIR, the Mid-O elevation change aint much...... but its a fantastic track and really takes a knowledge of the track and a big pair to really haul *** around that place. I'll be going back in '05
</TD></TR></TABLE>Compared to VIR, the Mid-O elevation change aint much...... but its a fantastic track and really takes a knowledge of the track and a big pair to really haul *** around that place. I'll be going back in '05
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Re: Runoffs Move to Heartland Park in 2006. Boo.
I guess I'm somewhat biased since I live less than two hours from MidOhio...
But in that guy's letter he basically admits that the new track isn't as much of a driver's track as MidOhio and also isn't as spectator friendly.
Granted, sounds like they are going to dump some $$ into it...but MidOhio is very friendly for spectators and a great environment. I'm sure that helps with the attendence. As we all know, any form of roadracing beside NASCAR is having issues in the US. Seems like MidOhio was doing a decent job with spectator base, hopefully the new track will continue this. I guess it remains to be seen...
Ah well, there goes my dream of winning the lottery, building a top notch Spec Pinata, and winning the inaugural race at the runoffs...at MidOhio...in front of family, friends, and many cheering supermodels...
Gosh, I kind of feel delusional like Chad on new year's eve.
- Markus
But in that guy's letter he basically admits that the new track isn't as much of a driver's track as MidOhio and also isn't as spectator friendly.
Granted, sounds like they are going to dump some $$ into it...but MidOhio is very friendly for spectators and a great environment. I'm sure that helps with the attendence. As we all know, any form of roadracing beside NASCAR is having issues in the US. Seems like MidOhio was doing a decent job with spectator base, hopefully the new track will continue this. I guess it remains to be seen...
Ah well, there goes my dream of winning the lottery, building a top notch Spec Pinata, and winning the inaugural race at the runoffs...at MidOhio...in front of family, friends, and many cheering supermodels...
Gosh, I kind of feel delusional like Chad on new year's eve.
- Markus
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Re: Runoffs Move to Heartland Park in 2006. Boo. (jlipper81)
Joel,
Thanks for the comments. Mid Ohio definately has an edge over HPT in the history and heritage departments. I have been going to HPT since before it opened (I walked it when they were still pushing dirt back in '88) working most every SCCA event and racing my SSC Neon since 2002. It IS definately a fun track. Not as fast as Mid-O and not as much elevation changes (Heck, I race mostly at Midamerica Motorplex so it is more than I see normally) I think the improvements Irwin is going to do will bring the track more respect than it is getting currently. The previous owners really dropped the ball with HPT's road course while concentrating on the drag strip. The track will be completely repaved since it was opened and many new features/buildings will be added. It should be a great place to race.
I think the Runoffs at Mid Ohio were wonderful. It is a great showcase for the club and the area truely supports the event. I loved racing there in my SSC Neon the last two years, but I am excited about them being at HPT in the future. I want to see what MiDiv can do with it.
Thanks for the comments. Mid Ohio definately has an edge over HPT in the history and heritage departments. I have been going to HPT since before it opened (I walked it when they were still pushing dirt back in '88) working most every SCCA event and racing my SSC Neon since 2002. It IS definately a fun track. Not as fast as Mid-O and not as much elevation changes (Heck, I race mostly at Midamerica Motorplex so it is more than I see normally) I think the improvements Irwin is going to do will bring the track more respect than it is getting currently. The previous owners really dropped the ball with HPT's road course while concentrating on the drag strip. The track will be completely repaved since it was opened and many new features/buildings will be added. It should be a great place to race.
I think the Runoffs at Mid Ohio were wonderful. It is a great showcase for the club and the area truely supports the event. I loved racing there in my SSC Neon the last two years, but I am excited about them being at HPT in the future. I want to see what MiDiv can do with it.
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Re: Runoffs Move to Heartland Park in 2006. Boo. (John)
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I agree...
Zero elevation change...</TD></TR></TABLE>
**cough, cough** you haven't done 120 over the blind right hander on the new front straight OR gone through the back-side turns as you approach & travel under the bridge have you
Here's some track footage if you're bored...
Track Details
Part 1 video of HPT (save as please)
Part 2 video of HPT (save as please)
http://www.itrca.com/gallery/b...x.php (video index page)
Modified by BudMan at 6:48 AM 1/7/2005
I agree...
Zero elevation change...
</TD></TR></TABLE>**cough, cough** you haven't done 120 over the blind right hander on the new front straight OR gone through the back-side turns as you approach & travel under the bridge have you
Here's some track footage if you're bored...
Track Details
Part 1 video of HPT (save as please)
Part 2 video of HPT (save as please)
http://www.itrca.com/gallery/b...x.php (video index page)
Modified by BudMan at 6:48 AM 1/7/2005
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Re: Runoffs Move to Heartland Park in 2006. Boo. (John)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by John »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I agree...
Zero elevation change...</TD></TR></TABLE>
**cough, cough** you haven't done 120 over the blind right hander on the new front straight OR gone through the back-side turns as you approach & travel under the bridge have you
Track Details
I'll try to post some video footage this weekend.
I agree...
Zero elevation change...
</TD></TR></TABLE>**cough, cough** you haven't done 120 over the blind right hander on the new front straight OR gone through the back-side turns as you approach & travel under the bridge have you
Track Details
I'll try to post some video footage this weekend.
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Re: Runoffs Move to Heartland Park in 2006. Boo. (Knestis)
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Heh, how ironic that the very next post was the first one in favor of the move.
In all honesty, I know little of HPT, and I only know MO as a spectator. I do know that I live 2 hours from MO and always enjoy going to spectate, and that from photos I've seen of HPT, it doesn't look very much a spectator-friendly facility. Or a fun course to drive.
But, given Joel L's comments I could be wrong, plus the millions in investment could change that all for the better.
To the comment that the Runoffs should be in the center of the country: I don't have hard data, but I would guess the SCCA membership "Center Of Mass" is significantly closer to Mansfield, OH than Topeka, KS. I could be wrong though.
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Heh, how ironic that the very next post was the first one in favor of the move.
In all honesty, I know little of HPT, and I only know MO as a spectator. I do know that I live 2 hours from MO and always enjoy going to spectate, and that from photos I've seen of HPT, it doesn't look very much a spectator-friendly facility. Or a fun course to drive.
But, given Joel L's comments I could be wrong, plus the millions in investment could change that all for the better.
To the comment that the Runoffs should be in the center of the country: I don't have hard data, but I would guess the SCCA membership "Center Of Mass" is significantly closer to Mansfield, OH than Topeka, KS. I could be wrong though.