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Old 11-20-2004, 10:55 AM
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Default NSX caliper on EK fitment problems :( please help.

I'm trying to put NSX brake calipers on my EK hatch. I know many people on this forum had done it on their EG and EK.
This is my problem...
The caliper will bolt up to the knuckle, no problem here.
And the rotors (I'm using the 11.1" inch NSX rotors, redrilled for 4x100) will fit on the hub, no problem here.
But When I try to install the caliper on to the knuckle with the rotors on the hub it does not fit It semms that the rotor is too big?? Any ideas? I took some pic to illustrate the problem.


I don't see why it wont't fit?



calipers will fit with out the rotors.




the rotor is 11.1" which is what everyone is using.

Old 11-20-2004, 10:58 AM
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Default Re: NSX caliper on EK fitment problems :( please help. (volkdlr)

I have no tech input but thats gonna look hottt!!!!!!!
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Default Re: NSX caliper on EK fitment problems :( please help. (S(J)O(D)L(M))

you might want to try asking around in the ITR forum, they do this swap on a pretty average basis...
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Default Re: NSX caliper on EK fitment problems :( please help. (Jon V)

it looks at though the caliper is hitting the rotor which would not let it go in all the way to bolt up
Old 11-20-2004, 11:06 AM
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Default Re: NSX caliper on EK fitment problems :( please help. (civictildeath)

sick idea! never saw that b4
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Default Re: NSX caliper on EK fitment problems :( please help. (92talon4evr)

it won't work-u need to sell the calipers to me
looks like you need smaller rotors.
Old 11-20-2004, 11:31 AM
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are you using stock knuckles on a car with 9 inch brakes? i believe you need to use knuckles from a car with 10 inch brakes
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is your car a EX? The EX should take the NSX caliper. But the smaller brakes 9.4" on the DX, LX, CX, will NOT. Check the ITR brake thread.

OH, another note. A guy that did this said...
you should use the 91-96 NSX calipers. That what you got? Also, with the offset and ****, what He did:

You need EX knuckles first. Then, to get on NSX calipers, he took his EX knuckle, he bolted on a ITR caliper bracket, the NSX actual caliper part, and used ITR rotors (or prelude VTEC 96 rotors) redrilled to 4x100, and this worked. Thats the setup that worked, now i heard you CAN get the NSX rotors on with spacers, but id go for the ITR rotors if ya know they will work.

Sorry to confuse you, there is a lot of BS out there. I can tell you facts about his setup:

Brakes were total ITR conversion (the 5 lug one). Its a whole ITR setup, the only NSX piece was the actual caliper (and not the bracket). So supposedly, on a EX or up knuckle, you use a ITR bracket, NSX (91-96) caliper, ITR rotors, and that will work, with no spacers.

PROBLEM: You MAY have to grind. I have heard stories of people's caliper brackets hitting the rotors. Please do more research. What people have done is 2 things: 1. Get a 1/8" spacer between the hub and rotor. 2: grind 3mm off the back of the caliper mounting bracket where it bolts to the knuckle so that it will be closer, thus allowing the rotor to clear.

Oh, and your NSX rotors diameter is ok, its the offset that causes the problem, which is why u can use ITR rotors, or Lude VTEC rotors, as they are also 11.1"
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not sure what you guys mean by knuckles but guessin caliper brackets.

discs should be 282mm but not sure in thickness.
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Default Re: NSX caliper on EK fitment problems :( please help. (volkdlr)

just wondering where did you get your nsx calipers from?
Old 11-20-2004, 12:34 PM
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Default Re: NSX caliper on EK fitment problems :( please help. (volkdlr)

i think the nsx rotors might be too big... i remember emerica doing something simliar but with prelude vtec rotors redrilled to 4x100 and itr calipers....


good luckhopefully you figure it out. if not ill buy those calipers off you for my 5 lug
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dang, NSX brakes would 0wn on a civic. i cant imagine how well the braking would be afterwards! now im thinking of doing this too
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legend calipers are basically same as nsx calipers. sure i came across link showin legend pistons to be bigger though. nsx do have cooling fins and nsx badge for bling factor but thats about it
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Default Re: NSX caliper on EK fitment problems :( please help. (S(J)O(D)L(M))

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by S(J)O(D)L(M) &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have no tech input but thats gonna look hottt!!!!!!! </TD></TR></TABLE>

wow, brakes that look hot.
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Default Re: NSX caliper on EK fitment problems :( please help. (volkdlr)

When you get this all set and figured out can you just make one post with all the parts we need to do this conversion. I hope you fix your problem.

Thanks
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Default Re: (Redline96LX)

Redline96LX and dantastic, both of you are correct.

I do have a DX and forgot that EX has bigger stock rotors compared to the DX. To confirm I tried the NSX caliper on my friend's 99 EX and the mounting tabs on the EX knuckles were longer so they were able to clear the 11.1" rotors.

Here is a pic.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Redline96LX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is your car a EX? The EX should take the NSX caliper. But the smaller brakes 9.4" on the DX, LX, CX, will NOT. </TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dantastic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are you using stock knuckles on a car with 9 inch brakes? i believe you need to use knuckles from a car with 10 inch brakes</TD></TR></TABLE>
Old 11-21-2004, 05:12 PM
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glad i could help.... if you need GSR knuckles, you could try http://www.hmotorsonline.com they're located in the san fernando valley area. they sell full gsr knuckles for $75 with calipers, hubs, etc
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Default Re: NSX caliper on EK fitment problems :( please help. (volkdlr)

Read this thread...its similar to what you need to know. It's the most informative one about break swaps. It might not have your exact answer, but trust me, you'll learn enough to come up with your own conclusion of what you need to fix, or swap, or add, or grind

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=514109
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Default Re: NSX caliper on EK fitment problems :( please help. (DjGuamstyles)

Haha so im not the only one doing this. But I plan to paint them spoon blue with metal NSX showing. Anyway anyone try this for the rear brakes?
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Default Re: NSX caliper on EK fitment problems :( please help. (Solscud007)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Solscud007 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Haha so im not the only one doing this. But I plan to paint them spoon blue with metal NSX showing. Anyway anyone try this for the rear brakes?</TD></TR></TABLE> Thats What I was wondering... So With my 99 Si I could just swap out the calipers then?
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Default Re: NSX caliper on EK fitment problems :( please help. (volkdlr)

for your setup, you either need EX, SI or GSR knuckles for the calipers to fit correctly. After you get those, you will also need to shave about 2-3mm off the back of the caliper bracket for the rotor to be centered in the caliper.

ITR rotors are 23mm thick while NSX/Legend rotors are 28mm.

Legend calipers are actually bigger/better than NSX calipers, but NSX calipers have cooling fins and the NSX lettering. Also, when mounting Legend calipers, you have to mount the right side caliper onto the left side of your car and vice versa, due to the way they mount on legends ( back of the rotors). Doing this will cause the bleeder valve to be on the bottom, which is bad, since air bubbles rise...

i'm planning on doing this setup over xmas break on my EK. i've already got the calipers, already got the SI knuckles on the car, but just waiting to get rear disc, a SI master cylinder, and some legend/nsx rotors.

curious, how much was it to get the rotors redrilled to 4x100?



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sorry to be a newb on this topic, but does this help stopping a lot or is it just for bling bling? and how much does it cost to do this? thanks
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NSX Rotor and Caliper are not just bling.. compare to a Stock Civic its a massive braking power upgrade.

I have got a ITR 5 lug swap, compare to my stock setup before braking power are like 50% or more..( going to get better tyre and JDM Accord MC/P valve soon ) should do even better.
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Much better braking.

Imagine one brake set is designed to respectively stop your average grocery getter which normally travels between 10 to 70mph (legally )

The other brake set is designed to respectively stop your not so average porche chaser that is designed to reach speeds of over 140mph
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okay this is a great idea, but how does it stack against say maybe a Brembo kit? which would normally run you $2k?


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