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Old 11-16-2004, 10:32 PM
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ok what do u guys think ill get an msd rpm switch and wire it into the ground wire for the
coil and use 3.0-5.2 rpm module selector and have that switched via a relay and the clutch microswitch to power the relay???
Old 11-16-2004, 10:33 PM
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if not the coil due to amp flow problems than mabe another ground wire to the dizzy that doesnt draw as much
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Default Re: home made 2 step (gotboostedvr6)

could even wire the ign switch
Old 11-17-2004, 12:34 AM
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I never really thought about it but I don't think that it would work due to the fact that when you cut the power (whatever you're breaking, whether it be the + or -) to the dizzy you lose your ICM signal which the rpm activated switch needs to see in order to function. If you really want a 2-step just get a Digi6 box...
Old 11-17-2004, 10:05 AM
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Default Re: home made 2 step (jerseykid609)

thanks all but i cant give up that easly ...whats up jon
Old 11-17-2004, 12:33 PM
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Default Re: home made 2 step (gotboostedvr6)

RPM switch=$60

Two step module=$60
Hmmm, think I would be best just to get a 2 step module
Old 11-17-2004, 12:41 PM
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Default Re: home made 2 step (phat51)

Yea but if you're buying a 2-step module that means that you're not running an ignition box with a built in 2-step (ie. Digi 6 or 7) so besides that module you'll need say a 6AL or HVC box, coil, and a soft-touch module. If he's already got one of those MSD boxes and a soft-touch module then you're absolutely correct.
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The 2-step doesn't totally cut ignition, it retards it heavily. Cut out power to the coil and your motor is going to shut off. Did you think of that?
Old 11-17-2004, 12:58 PM
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Yea, well I think he's talking just from an rpm limiting point, I hope he wasn't planning on using this type of 2-step on an FI motor or any fairly expensive setup. As for what I think he was also think, if the ICM signal did not rely on power from the dizzy his "rpm limiter" would work. Think about it, if you have an rpm activated switch that goes to ground a say 5,000 rpm then all you do is connect that to the 85 pole on the relay, run the 86 and 87 (these would have to supply a decent load since one is also driving the coils power) to 12V+, then connect the 87a to the main power line in on the dizzy. Once the motor hits 5k it switches the relay to 30 which cuts the coil power turning off the motor, when it drops below 5k power is resupplied. This would work, right? Yes, but only if the ICM signal remained there for the rpm activated switch to read off of. When the dizzy power is cut so is the RAS signal which would be as good as the switch not even having power itself...
Old 11-17-2004, 08:21 PM
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Default Re: home made 2 step (gotboostedvr6)

Not to thread jack, but can you add Two-Step to the MSD 6A?
Old 11-17-2004, 09:03 PM
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I'm not positive since I don't see too many 6A boxes but I'm pretty sure you can't. I don't think it has a port for the soft-touch module but I could be wrong and please correct me if I am.
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i think the difference betweend the msd 6a and the 6al boxes is that on the 6al you can add the 2step while on the 6a you cant.... pretty sure about that.
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Default Re: home made 2 step (gotboostedvr6)

If you decide not to go with the 2 step I am selling a used MSD Digital 6 plus box. It is in great condition. Used only for a few months on our drag car. Recently went COP so I have no use for it. Selling for $210 shipped. There is a pic of it at http://s8.invisionfree.com/MS1...x.php? in the for sale forum. Registering is free and takes a minute. Thanks.
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i'd also like to know if theres a way to run a 2 step with oem ignition....man i really wish i would have opted for the s200 hondata with the built in launch control
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There is no way to run a 2 step with stock ignition with out an MSD.
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Default Re: (msmotorsports)

up 4 possibility to run 2 step on stock ign
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by msmotorsports &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There is no way to run a 2 step with stock ignition with out an MSD. </TD></TR></TABLE>

what he said... iv tried before...

and with the 6a u CANT run the 2 step...

on the 6al... iv always thought the "L" meant limiter... hence u can plug the 2 step "limiter" into it...
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from information i got from MSD..the ignition cut rev limiter cuts the spark from every other ignition event effectively preventing the engine from revving
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Thats exactly how any 2 step works. Some 2 steps also cut fuel(example: AEM EMS) If ignition was cut entirely the motor would die.
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