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So, July is just about here and I know some leagues are starting to stir, especially keeper/dynasty leagues, and redraft leagues also. I guess I'll start it out by asking for advice for one of my keeper leagues. Oh my God, I have never seen such a motley crew of busts and extreme disappointments. I started off not too bad, keeping SA, Bulger and Holt from the team I took over last offseason, and drafted Jacobs, after that I don't remember who I drafted. But other than picking up Warner, and Derrick Ward, I have nothing worth looking at as far as having to pick three keepers. I ended up with the first pick obviously, after winning one matchup, so herein lies the question.

I need to get the RB that will give me the best production in the future, with little care about this season. McFadden and Stewart would be the obvious choices for a win-now team, and Felix Jones or Mendenhall would be more towards rebuilding. The little competition McFadden has, along with a new zone blocking scheme, along with the high money/draft pick they spent on him, make me lean towards McFadden, but Mendenhall is in a better situation. What does HT think about the first overall pick in a keeper draft?




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I did Yahoo public draft today, like usual, because I'm too impatient to wait for the private/keeper drafts to begin How did I do? 3rd pick out of 10:

1.03: Brian Westbrook
2.08: Ryan Grant
3.03: Larry Fitzgerald
4.08: Plaxico Burress
5.03: Jamal Lewis
6.08: Calvin Johnson
7.03: Matt Hasselbeck
8.08: Jerricho Cotchery
9.03: Thomas Jones
10.08: Anthony Gonzalez
11.03: Rashard Mendenhall
12.08: Philip Rivers
13.03: Ben Watson
14.08: Tennessee DST
15.03: Mason Crosby

Hasselbeck, Rivers
Westbrook, Grant, Lewis, TJones, Mendenhall
Fitzgerald, Burress, Johnson, Cotchery, Gonzalez
Watson
Crosby
Tennessee




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So what does everybody think about this trade, made in the public Yahoo league I am in. The commish said it is a fair trade, another player and I think it is not. It was, McNabb and Winslow for Garrard and Vernon Davis. They said it was about the upside with VD and Garrard lmao. Upside, really? A QB with the worst WR corps to throw to, with two stud RBs to take all the TDs and a shit ton of yardage, and a TE who has done relatively little in his career to this point in the worst offense in the NFL? For a proven elite QB who is finally completely healthy, and certainly the third best TE in the league?




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I don't think it's that far off.
McNabb's numbers - were they better than Garrard's last year or not? I would guess not, but haven't looked. Garrard > McNabb in this case.
Winslow is a stud, definitely better than VD.
IMO, unless a trade is a blatant attempt to bonk your team and improve another team, should be let through. I'd rather have McNabb/Winslow in that trade, but it's not 'unfair'.



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Hmmm Garrard did have a great year last season.

Vernon Davis has yet to show anything spectacular I partially blame that on the inconsistency at the QB position. Maybe Martz can spark that offense this season?

Winslow is no doubt a beast and a top 4 TE in the league but I wonder how his numbers will fair this season since the addition of Stallworth.


For the Curious, here are the numbers from 07:

Garrard: 2509yds with 18tds and 3ints.
McNabb: 3324yds with 19tds and 7ints
Davis: 52rec 509yds 4tds
Winslow: 82rec 1106yds 5tds


I agree with andyep3, the trade isn't necessarily 'unfair' or is it a sign of collusion. But I'd personally take the Mcnabb-Winslow duo.

This is a trade I rejected last season in one of my leagues - clearly stacking Team B:

Team A sends:
Braylon Edwards
Antonio Gates

Team B sends:
Keenan McCardell
Alge Crumpler




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Should I take Ryan Grant instead of one of the rookies with the #1 pick in the keeper league? Or go with Mendenhall or McFadden?




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NVM, I already went with Grant. Barring a huge disappointment, I should be happy, since he's only 26 and on a good, young offense/team

Now, I have another question. I have a trade offer that I will take as long as the condition is right. Basically, in a three-keeper league, I was offered Michael Turner for my 3rd round pick. So basically Micheal Turner for a mid-6th round pick. I would assume I get to keep my three keepers + Turner if I go through with the trade, right? I've never dealt with a keeper league trade before the draft, or including picks for that matter...




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have my draft tomorrow. Might be first/only.
Totally unprepared, but here goes nada.



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I'm trying to take Miami's newly aquired rookie kicker Dan Carpenter, but yahoo doesn't even list him as a player. Even checked after he drained 4/4 tonight, including 2 40+ yd kicks.



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Here's my team (in order of pick)

Steven Jackson
Andre Johnson
Carson Palmer
Reggie Bush
K. Winslow
G. Jennings
LenDale White
R. Mendenhall
S. Moss
P. Crayton
D. McAllister
DJ Hackett
J. Delhomme
NE DEF
TB K

As usual for this league, weird draft. Someone took Marion Barber with the 3rd pick, Tom Brady went 4th, bunch of QBs in the 3rd round, etc. Let me know if you want to see the draft results.




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here's my team, in order of pick.

1) Peyton Manning QB
2) Marion Barber RB
3) Steve Smith WR
4) Jason Witten TE
5) Josh Brown K
6) Hines Ward WR
7) Seattle Seahawks Defense
8) Santana Moss WR
9) Laurence Maroney RB
10) Ben Roethlisberger QB
11) DJ Hackett WR
12) Julius Jones RB
13) Jay Cutler QB
14) Tony Scheffler TE
15) Ronnie Brown RB

Didn't have too much of a strategy. I dont know much about individual players or teams as a whole. I went in with no idea of who i was going to choose and it started biting me in the ass as i ran down on time and didn't know who i wanted. Such as with Ronnie Brown .. i dont think his stats were all that bad, but Miami as a team isn't that great. And Steve Smith .. ya, i forgot he decided to beat the shit out of his teammate ha.

I had my brother on the phone helping me .. but we'll see how i do and it will be fun either way.



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Did SJ fall to fourth? Where did you draft? How many players? Not a bad team, you have good players at all starting positions, although you'll probably end up starting LenWhale more than Bush if he is the starter in Tenn. I really like the Mendenhall, Crayton and McAllister picks, at least one of those guys will become a decent starter at some point, given their situations.




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and looking back on it, i'm an idiot. i only chose one team defense, so i'm [freak]ed the week that comes around with their BYE. Also Steve Smith is sitting out the first 2 games, so that doesn't help.

is it possible for me to somehow pick up another defense? ANY defense is better than no defense. damn.



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here's my team, in order of pick.

1) Peyton Manning QB
2) Marion Barber RB
3) Steve Smith WR
4) Jason Witten TE
5) Josh Brown K
6) Hines Ward WR
7) Seattle Seahawks Defense
8) Santana Moss WR
9) Laurence Maroney RB
10) Ben Roethlisberger QB
11) DJ Hackett WR
12) Julius Jones RB
13) Jay Cutler QB
14) Tony Scheffler TE
15) Ronnie Brown RB

Didn't have too much of a strategy. I dont know much about individual players or teams as a whole. I went in with no idea of who i was going to choose and it started biting me in the ass as i ran down on time and didn't know who i wanted. Such as with Ronnie Brown .. i dont think his stats were all that bad, but Miami as a team isn't that great. And Steve Smith .. ya, i forgot he decided to beat the shit out of his teammate ha.

I had my brother on the phone helping me .. but we'll see how i do and it will be fun either way.

What the fukk? Big Ben went in the 10th, and Brown in the 15th? At WR, you're going to be screwed, as you're going to start Ward and Moss in the first two weeks, two feast or famine players that could do nothing for two weeks straight easily. But starting Barber and probably Brown should be decent, along with Peyton, given he comes back and is healthy to start the year. Was this a Yahoo public league?

Don't worry about the defense. The Seahawks(guessing this was a homer pick) defense is expendable, so just drop them and pick another one up when there is a bye. Although by that point, you'll probably have a player or two that is injured and needs to be dropped anyway.




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this was just a Yahoo leauge of like 8 friends or something. nothing serious, just shit-talking rights. and as you can tell, i had no idea what i was doing. I got some good players, but i don't have the intellect to put together a team of performs who perform well together

But ya, WR is looking bad for me



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Did SJ fall to fourth? Where did you draft? How many players? Not a bad team, you have good players at all starting positions, although you'll probably end up starting LenWhale more than Bush if he is the starter in Tenn. I really like the Mendenhall, Crayton and McAllister picks, at least one of those guys will become a decent starter at some point, given their situations.

I picked 8th in a 10 player league.
I'm not sold on LenDale, but who knows. I had my eye on Micheal Turner and Rudi Johnson but both were picked that round, just before me. Turner lasted a long time in our league.



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I just completed a 14 team auction draft last night. It was my first, I had yet to even do any mocks. It was live with everyone there and it was pretty nerve racking. Anyway, I think my team is ok, here's who I ended up with. We had $200 to spend and I ended up with 9$ left. I should have parlayed that into Hines Ward as my #4 WR, but I still had too many roster spots to fill at the time. This is not even close to the order they were picked, it's crazy how the draft goes.


QB Ben Roethlisberger ($28)
QB Matt Schaub ($8)
QB Chris Redman ($2)

RB Larry Johnson ($43)
RB Lendale White ($23)
RB Fred Taylor ($10)
RB Kolby Smith ($1)

WR Steve Smith ($28)
WR Wes Welker ($23)
WR Donald Driver ($9)
WR Reggie Brown ($2)
WR Reggie Williams ($1)

TE Ben Watson ($3)
TE Ben Utecht ($4)

K Stephen Gostowski ($2)
K dont remember ($1)

DEF Jacksonville ($2)
DEF Pittsburgh ($1)

I felt like there were some deals I missed out, I could have had Braylon Edwards for like $38, which then I would have passed on S Smith. Also I could have had S. Jackson for $58 or so, but I pussed out when it was down to me and my friend bidding for him. I didnt want to get into a pride-bidding war, but I was super happy for LJ at $43. Guys like Jamal Lewis went in the hgih 30s, barber was 5X and Lynch went for 63.




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rico,

auction drafts are the best, but also the most nerve racking.
do you start 2 QBs/TEs or DEF? If not you might want to trade some of those guys to improve on your TEs or maybe add another RB. I think you're team looks pretty good for a 14 teamer.



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rico,

auction drafts are the best, but also the most nerve racking.
do you start 2 QBs/TEs or DEF? If not you might want to trade some of those guys to improve on your TEs or maybe add another RB. I think you're team looks pretty good for a 14 teamer.

Our rosters are set, starting 1 QB/TE/K/Def, 2 RB, 3 WR, and 1 RB/WR flex. I think I'm gonna drop reggie williams for Ben Obamanu, otherwise I cant fill the roster in week 1 if brown/williams stay hurt and steve smith being suspended.



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I'd drop/trade an extra DEF or K before a WR. There's no reason to have 2 Ks, even in a 14 team league. You can always pick one up during your K's bye week.





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I'd drop/trade an extra DEF or K before a WR. There's no reason to have 2 Ks, even in a 14 team league. You can always pick one up during your K's bye week.

I know what you're sayin, but we have to have this roster, cannot be changed. everyone must have the same amount at each position that I have. I like it like that anyway so people can't load up at any position. Having said that, I would rather have one of the qb slots be a wr/rb considering who we start.



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1st timer here in an 8 team draft, here's what I got:

QB Peyton Manning
QB Chad Pennington

RB Maurice Jones-Drew
RB Ricky Williams

WR Ted Ginn Jr.
WR Chad Johnson
WR Jerricho Cotchery

TE Dallas Clark
TE Heath Miller

K Nate Kaeding (Jay Feely released and yahoo hasn't listed Dan Carpenter as a player yet )

DEF Jacksonville Jaguars

Thoughts?



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