link that I am quoting from below, a bunch of dirty effing librul hippies

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Quote » The Office Of Inspector General and Office of Professional Responsibility at the Department of Justice have issued a joint inspection report regarding two of the most prestigious fast track programs to DOJ career hire status -- and the politicized hiring selection process that has been in place for the last few years. Readers will recall testimony from Monica Goodling, Alberto Gonzales, Bradley Schlozman, Kyle Sampson and many others on these issues. The full report is available as a PDF here. From the report summary, beginning on page 92: ...[W]e concluded that McDonald committed misconduct and violated Department policies and civil service law by considering political or ideological affiliations in assessing Honors Program and SLIP candidates. (93) [W]e concluded that Elston violated federal law and Department policy by deselecting candidates based on their liberal affiliations. (94) We also concluded that Elston committed misconduct, and violated federal law and Department policy, when he deselected candidates and denied appeals based on his perception of the political or ideological affiliations of the candidates. (96) We also concluded that OARM Director DeFalaise did not adequately or timely address the concerns that were brought to his attention concerning the Screening Committee's deselections. (96) Finally, we concluded that Acting Associate Attorney General Mercer did not adequately address the concerns that were brought to his attention by several senior Department officials that the Screening Committee's deselections appeared to have been politicized. (97)... [A]n OARM employee ... recalled that one of the [deselected] candidates she raised to DeFalaise's attention was first in his law school class at Georgetown University, had clerked for a federal district court judge, and was currently clerking for a Second Circuit judge. [footnote 41: This candidate also had worked as a law clerk for Senator Russell Feingold, a Democrat, and for Human Rights Watch, but the OARM employee does not recall pointing out the candidate's political or ideological affiliations to DeFalaise at this time.] (59-60)... [Records of applicants destroyed] The Committee used paper copies of the applications on which Fridman and McDonald made handwritten notations about the applicants, but those documents were destroyed prior to the initiation of our investigation. (68,69) (emphasis mine) Allow this to soak in for a moment: documentary evidence in personnel files at the US Department of Justice was destroyed, including notes on hiring decisions and other pertinent documents which are generally kept in all cases for review by employers nationwide should there be discrimination or other claims which require later review. They were destroyed. As in missing, taken out of the files, not there...before the OIG and the OPR could look at them. There will be a lot more on this to come, but that stood out like a big flashing sign to me -- people at the department of justice destroyed evidence in a matter being investigated within the department by the OIG. Jeebus, we are going to have a lot of work to do cleaning up after these asshats.

Just... wow! Is there any depth to which this administration will not stoop? To the members here who are still at least *somewhat* supportive of the Bush administration, can you actually excuse this/shrug it off/ignore it, or does it finally wake you up out of your partisan fog to the dangers of an unchecked executive?

The two obvious questions that this report leaves us with are 1) can we even stop the Bush administration from continuing these practices for the next 7 months? (probably), and 2) is there any way to undo the damage already done? (probably not)

Discuss.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross." - Sinclair Lewis

RonPaul2008!!!

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross." - Sinclair Lewis

RonPaul2008!!!

You know, you're right. My neighbor cheats on his wife every weekend, and maybe that's just how marriages go. Welp, guess I'm off to compromise my own integrity because that's the way things are.

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All administrations that appoint career people have the luxury of appointing like minded people-- its a simple concept. Even for you

Get a clue. Appointing like minded people is every administrations right. Your analogy has nothing to do with the topic.

Somper in excretia,som solem profundus variat.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross." - Sinclair Lewis

RonPaul2008!!!

He has a PhD from OSU in Geology and did his dissertation on peak oil. He was also a contributor to the Ohio Rep. party and the RNC. Do you really want to question how he got his job???????????????????????? Or for that matter if he is qualified???????????????????? Membership has its privileges

If someone is qualified does it matter what party they belong to? I see your point that it shouldn't matter what party one belongs to.

I think you are upset because this was just discovered now, when it has probably been going on for a while.

Furthermore my cousin who is a PhD in geothermal energy wasn't hired by the Dept. of energy for a similar job. John is a outspoken democrat. He was a intern for one of the congressional committes while in undergrad. In fact my cousin is quite liberal. In my opinion he is quite qualified for a job at the Dept. of energy.

He assumes and I assume he didnt get what should be a lifelong job due to the fact that he isnt a conservative or a republican.

So we see 1 person getting a job and 1 person not getting the job. Its easy to see why.

Or were we to begin a measurement contest next?

Thats exactly the point. My older brother who is politically active got a good job at the Dept. of Energ due to his good deeds. My cousin's views are on the wrong side of the isle however is equally qualified and didn't get hired.

Politics seems to play into everything in DC whether you like it or not. Yes, even for lifetime jobs.

I understand your point Xiaogou, and I think in matters of the Dept. of Energy, Agriculture, Education etc, etc. you can probably find stories both for and against any administration in their hiring practices...but the nature in which people are positioned, and then summarily fast tracked (not initially hired, but promoted due to political ideals over other individuals) at the DOJ is something not common, or at least unheard of at this level until now.

Even if you can write all that off as politics in general, you can not overlook the fact that prior to the investigation (I'm assuming that this happened after being notified they were being investigated) records that would prove all of this to be true were destroyed. Now consider that even with all the records destroyed they still found enough evidence to pass judgment.

If that doesn't point out that something really F'ed up was going on at the DOJ, I think there really is no hope for you to be non-partisan (thanks for the correction BDS).


Modified by Superhatch at 7:51 PM 6/29/2008

I think you meant non-partisan but I agree with everything you said.

When we're talking about the Department of Justice we're dealing with much bigger issues. Those people who are either being fastracked or held back due to their political ideologies are people who have a tremendous amount of influence over this nation. There has to be a more objective and unbiased way to govern the DOJ.

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Not just tremendous influence over the nation, but influence over the power of the POTUS.

"Everything in the world may be endured except continued prosperity."
--- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

If so...it's kind of a "How deep is the rabbit hole?" kinda situation...