Two days of greetings, hugs, and happy people go by. Everyone is happy that she's back for at least a little bit before they return her passport and make/ let her leave.

After that she has to go to her probation officer. At the meeting, two ICE agents show up, say there's been a mistake, thank her for not running away....and take her back to jail. To await deportation. She will spend AT LEAST a month in immigration jail until they get around to buying her a ticket.

Can someone explain to me the logic of putting her in jail to await deportation? She is more than willing to buy her own ticket and leave immediately. She obviously didn't "run away" when she had the chance. Can someone explain to me what is the point, in this situation, of throwing her in jail until she is deported?

Please don't forget that this is at least a month of a person's life being thrown away....besides the money the government is wasting on the jail and on the ticket.


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my thoughts. first, she broke the law...so screw her.

second, the govt is inefficient so this doesn't surprise me.

as far as applying logic to the whole situation...i wouldn't bother since its the govt we're talking about.

hopefully she'll leave and come back legally if she ever does.

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That's not her. She's still in jail...awaiting the same fate.

Anyways...she broke that law and she spent her time for it. Now she's in jail simply because she's getting deported. Not because of the crime, just simply waiting. Until someone gets around to buying a ticket. Maybe tomorrow, maybe next year. She wants to go home already...she wants to get a ticket and get the hell out. But no, they throw her in jail and make her wait until they do it for her.

Imagine someone wants you out of their house. Instead of simply letting you leave, they lock you in the closet for a couple weeks/ months until they get around to properly escorting you out.

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That would be a valid point, except she was free for a weekend and then herself voluntarily came to the probation officer. If she were to disappear, she would have done it over the weekend.

Instead they were like "thank you for not running away and coming to us. Now we put you in jail so that you won't run away."

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She did the time. "120 days in jail". She did 120 days in jail. She spent it. She paid for her crime. She served her time. She was there. 120 days. That was her sentence. She did it. 120 days. 120 was her sentence. She did it. I'm sorry man...I'm out of anymore words to explain this but whatever the time line that was set for her, she did it. Why the fuk is she in jail now??

"gonna do the crime, gotta do the time"

Brilliant.

Throw a person in jail for unknown reasons. Take a chunk of her life away. Alter her very person for the rest of her life...and when presented with the question "why?"....this is the response I get. You don't even understand why she's in jail but you're so quick to justify the reasoning behind it. Even if it's just a catchy phrase. With people like this around I'm glad I'm not in jail for unknown reasons.

I guess this is why this country holds the record for the highest percentage of the population in jail....because nobody exists that hasn't committed a crime.

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Quote, originally posted by Lsos »

She did the time. "120 days in jail". Throw a person in jail for unknown reasons.

Deportation was not part of her sentencing? 120 days and deportation? Like it or not that process can take time. She is in jail awaiting deportation, she knows this so she's not being jailed for unknown reasons.

As Mark stated this is part of the deportation process, just because she did not run does not mean others would. They don't exactly do it on a case by case basis.

It's a bullshit reason, that's what I'm saying. She wants to leave. Let her leave. Don't keep her in jail until you get around to making her leave.

You don't just go around throwing people in jail because it's just easy or convenient that way. This is people's lives that are being fuked with. As such, it sure as hell should be done on a case-by-case basis.

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Hmm seems like a grey area. I'm sure wherever she is being help has information regarding the process of deportation outlining the situation she is in. If they don't then you might have a case.

Well you know how our inept government works...

For better or worse.

Who's Hu?

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Who's on first?

Sorry, had to.

Generally, that is the hold-up.

But anyways, is there a reasoning behind not just letting her buy the ticket herself? She has a passport and she has the money. It's just a matter of going on yahoo and buying the ticket. Is it truly so necessary for the government to do this for her? Especially when they're obviously not too competent/ interested in the matter?

I'm especially disturbed by all this because a) she's my good friend, and b) my wife is in the same position....and from the same country.

Looks like I'll have to wait a few months extra to see my wife, too. I guess "making sure she's from x and y country" is not a satisfactory reason for me to hold a person in jail for a month/year....

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Does she have an attorney? That might help speed up the process. But generally, this is customary.

Make sure the govt. can't prove you took money. Make sure a large $ deposit didn't hit your bank account but do make sure you make $30k a year to support your self and your wife. Or that much in assets.

So, if she is in the Ukraine, you married her here and she had to go back for 2 years? You can IM me if you want. If your wife is here that is half the battle- you sponsored her as a fiance then married her w/ in 90 days.

My friend didn't get an attorney. She figured out that all the attorney could do is maybe write a letter asking "please make it quicker"....and take a couple thousand dollars. I guess kind of makes sense since there's no charges or anything involved anymore...so what could he really do.

As for my wife, she's in the US right now....also in jail. I'm worried that when they finally "release" her they'll put her through the same process: immigration jail for a month or six, and then deportation....

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My wife pled guilty to "conspiracy" because stupid as it sounds, pleading guilty gets her out of jail quicker than fighting (and we lost any will to stay here anymore anyways).

So whatever, she'll get deported, but I'm just disturbed about this immigration jail part, because that just seems like a black hole to me. Who knows how long and for what they're going to keep her in there. Might as well send her to Guantanamo....

Here's thread on my wife...
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