you all know i think the hysteria surrounding global warming or climate change is ridiculous...but the money it generates is out of control.

also, the article talks about how much energy his house consumes. i could careless about that part of the article...seems irrelevant to me. yeah, he's a hypocrite...and no...i don't care...but i guess the conservationists out there should be speaking out against his extravagant lifestyle.

link: http://tennesseepolicy.org/mai...d=764

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Energy Guzzled by Al Gore’s Home in Past Year Could Power 232 U.S. Homes for a Month Gore’s personal electricity consumption up 10%, despite “energy-efficient” home renovations NASHVILLE - In the year since Al Gore took steps to make his home more energy-efficient, the former Vice President’s home energy use surged more than 10%, according to the Tennessee Center for Policy Research. “A man’s commitment to his beliefs is best measured by what he does behind the closed doors of his own home,” said Drew Johnson, President of the Tennessee Center for Policy Research. “Al Gore is a hypocrite and a fraud when it comes to his commitment to the environment, judging by his home energy consumption.” In the past year, Gore’s home burned through 213,210 kilowatt-hours (kWh) of electricity, enough to power 232 average American households for a month. In February 2007, An Inconvenient Truth, a film based on a climate change speech developed by Gore, won an Academy Award for best documentary feature. The next day, the Tennessee Center for Policy Research uncovered that Gore’s Nashville home guzzled 20 times more electricity than the average American household. After the Tennessee Center for Policy Research exposed Gore’s massive home energy use, the former Vice President scurried to make his home more energy-efficient. Despite adding solar panels, installing a geothermal system, replacing existing light bulbs with more efficient models, and overhauling the home’s windows and ductwork, Gore now consumes more electricity than before the “green” overhaul. Since taking steps to make his home more environmentally-friendly last June, Gore devours an average of 17,768 kWh per month –1,638 kWh more energy per month than before the renovations – at a cost of $16,533. By comparison, the average American household consumes 11,040 kWh in an entire year, according to the Energy Information Administration. In the wake of becoming the most well-known global warming alarmist, Gore won an Oscar, a Grammy and the Nobel Peace Prize. In addition, Gore saw his personal wealth increase by an estimated $100 million thanks largely to speaking fees and investments related to global warming hysteria. “Actions speak louder than words, and Gore’s actions prove that he views climate change not as a serious problem, but as a money-making opportunity,” Johnson said. “Gore is exploiting the public’s concern about the environment to line his pockets and enhance his profile.” The Tennessee Center for Policy Research, a Nashville-based free market think tank and watchdog organization, obtained information about Gore’s home energy use through a public records request to the Nashville Electric Service.

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It could power 6960 homes for a day! 167040 homes for an hour!

That's all I felt like sharing. He's still a hypocrite, but it doesn't make what he says wrong.

I'm pretty sure I wouldn't consider Gore an elitist.

Not a fan of Gore as of late because he's given everyone an example to point to anytime I mention anything "green." You'd think someone that made that much money and claimed to care so much about the environment could put up a windmill and power his own house? I know I would.

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If I had his money I'd invest in geothermal energy and help develop a few energy plants.

I know that was a problem up in Maine but have no idea if that was Gore's excuse. Typical not in my backyard stuff. I personally think they look amazing:

Geothermal is only easy in certain areas. A couple places have had problems with earthquakes also which scares me a little bit.

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So Tennessee is the only property that Gore owns? Maybe I confused him with some other rich mo-fo that love to tell me what to do and how to do it. S*it happens. They all tend to be the same to me. Do what needs to be done to protect their wealth.

Its funny how you cut my quote short to make me look like I think that all coastal land is owned by Gore. Thats a smooth move. You should work for one of those news broadcast channels.

I agree with njn63. Windmills do have that awe factor. I used to ride my bike though windmill farms when I lived out in the Bay Area.

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TJ, first does it really matter if the link i posted is partisan or non-partisan? the information i found relevant was the fact that al gore is now (according to the article) worth 100 million dollars.

here is the original link to the website which chronicles al gore's wealth.

link: http://www.fastcompany.com/mag....html

as far as the rest of your post...its laughable. first, to suggest global warming is caused by humans because an oil exec "admits" to it is hilarious. what makes the oil exec an expert? what about the 30,000 scientists who have signed a document suggesting global warming is not caused by humans?

link: http://www.streetinsider.com/P....html

now, regarding everything else in the original article...i could careless about it. the only aspect i found RELEVANT was al gore's wealth. i have no problem with his energy consumption and i have no problem with his lavish lifestyle. the fact that he has prospered in this country is what every hard working american aspires to and achieves on a day to day basis. i just can't believe al gore is worth what he's worth and find it insane that he's built such incredible wealth pushing a theory which has yet to be proven...and could very well be false. any clear thinking person on either side of the issue can certainly see this...

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If he didn't do all the "green" renovations than yes he would be hypocrite for telling others to get the same energy conserving renovations done.

The unintended consequences that his house uses up more energy is just poor planning on his part on choosing the correct ways of conserving energy. Not that he is personally uncommitted to the environment.

See the nuance?

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like i said previously i could careless about how much energy he uses...

however, with that said your post makes no sense. al gore's house still uses 20 times more energy compared to the average house. the fact that his house still uses 20x more energy after the green renovations highlights the fact that he's using 20X MORE ENERGY than the average household.

basically, what you're saying is as long as someone goes through the motions and has good intentions...then the end result is irrelevant.

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Depends on how many carbon credits you are currently buying

I suggested it but I was only throwing the idea out there in principle. The fact that he has that much money, his opinions on the environment, and the fact he only put a minor solar system in is pathetic. Why not buy up some land and put enough panels to power his own house at least? I highly doubt any land in Tennessee is worth millions of dollars an acre, and the transmission losses aren't that high so he could put them somewhere miles away if need be.

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as far as the rest of your post...its laughable. first, to suggest global warming is caused by humans because an oil exec "admits" to it is hilarious. what makes the oil exec an expert? what about the 30,000 scientists who have signed a document suggesting global warming is not caused by humans?

The oil exec's statement is important because of the damage a statement like that could do to his business. It's similar to a Marlboro exec admitting that cigarettes cause cancer, it's the last thing you expect to hear from that source.

Scientists make statements of varying degrees of probability, I wish people would understand this because it'd make discussions like this a lot easier. If I remember correctly, that document you're talking about with 30,000 signatures had very loose definitions for the word "scientist" and also was worded much differently than you're implying. Doubt of a statement expressed by a scientist does not imply that they think the opposite is true, only that they want more proof before they'll agree.

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Hmmm, I wonder how much energy John McCain's EIGHT homes consume. But you probably think he's not an elitist, right?

Isn't this a strawman? Or is this just partisan politics?

A hypocrite is someone who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings. I just don't see how Al Gore contradicted his beliefs in this case. It's not like he preached about the perils of global warming and than drove around in a hummer and then went home where the AC was cranked up and the doors open, the lights on 24/7, 30 fridges going, etc. He spent millions of dollars on green reno, he added friggen solar panels to his roof, if that's not the sign of a wealthy tree hugger than I don't what is.

You can be mad that he's made $100 million but I don't think you can call him a hypocrite.

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Would Bill Gates be a hypocrite if he told everyone about the dire need for relief in a foreign country (for years) and you later found out he donated less than 1% of his income to the relief effort (while spending more money on a new boat or other luxery item)? It may be a gray area regarding the title "hypocrite", but it certainly isn't the right thing to do and hurts your message.

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al gore is absolutely acting in contradiction with his stated beliefs. he's in a huge house and he's using incredible amounts of energy to live an extremely LAVISH lifestyle.

the fact that he added solar panels or other "green" items to his household is IRRELEVANT because he's STILL USING INSANE AMOUNTS OF ENERGY!!!!!!!!!

now, i have said from the beginning that i could careless about his insane energy usage...but he couldn't be anymore hypocritical.

how do you not see this?

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If he were preaching that people should donate up to 5% of their disposable income to help the relief effort, then yes he would be a hypocrite.

The guy preaches that everyone needs to cut back on the use of fossil fuels and be more "green" yet has an incredibly large house that uses a ton of energy is a hypocrite.

How could you honestly not just go out there and rip someone's head off after that? This isn't losing a big game in a professional sports league or missing out on being the CEO of a Fortune 500 company. It would drive me insane.

- If he is smart with investments or does a lot of speaking tours and book deals, so what. That's his way of making a living. I make 9X more than one of my adult relative. Does that make me a bad guy?

- I read a report that a hotel's electric bills are like $20,000 a day. Gore lives in a big house.

- Gore have a staff of XX 24/7. Security, maids, cooks, etc. That's how the rich live. They need to watch TV, keep the lights on. Heaters to keep the guard dogs warm. And when Gore is hungry, the cook is not going to wait 20mins for the oven to heat up. Someone is probably always cooking/eating etc, etc. The rich live a different lifestyle than most of us. When Gore goes to sleep, there is still a lot going on in his house. It's not being wasteful. That's how it is IMO.