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2-22-2007
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At the age of 19, as much as I would LOVE to keep this car and look good in it, I should probably sell it.


Ok, Prior to this car I owned a eg9(4dr eg) and a friend of mine was having really bad financial problems, to make the story short, he was getting kicked out of his house after losing his job and on top of that owed a great deal of money to a few people. SO he had to sell his car and offered it to me for $8,000 with 88k on the clock its a 323ci sport pckg, red leather interior, sport springs, harman and kardon system etc.
I saw that it was a good deal, so I gave him 3k upfront and we wrote a contract pretty much stating that I would pay him 500/monthly until the debt of 5,000$ was paid, and I would recieve the title without the lein on it etc.

2 months go by and the debt is 4000$, he tells me he needs money fast because of unknown reasons to me and proposes that if I give him another 3k upfront, he'll forget the remaining 1,000$. I went with this and also gave him a laptop for 600$ that i paid 200$ for. which then brought down what i owe to 2,400. I got a loan from my mom and paid him off and we took the title and cleared it through tally and everything was straight.

I've only been the owner legally for 1 week

I spent a total of 6,400$
and have been offered over 10,000$ for it at a local meet.

So Ive decided after getting a sweet deal on a 323ci id rather sell it now to have some money to play with and invest in different places. I am starting to become concerned a little about my future and how comfortably im livin it, rather than how I look in a bmw at 19. I'd rather do this now while I can still get a good amount for the car. As of currently I am purchasing the little things it needs new shift knob, and a missing corner light.

Do you guys see this as a smart move? Should I keep the car until I finish college (2 years left) and sell then?
This is a very very similar car on autotrader http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/...st=21

The way I see it is lets say I get 10,000$ for the car
I buy another for 3500-4000$
gives me a good 6,000$ to play with invest in stocks,
and pursue business ideas etc.

Thank you for any advice/input.

I am a noob to the stock market and am learning the basics now to hopefully feel confident enough to make some investments by the end of year.





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Man i say if you can get 10k and you only put in 6400 i say thats a decent return on your money. You can find a reliable civic or accord for under 4k drive that around until you get settled with new job/career and then when you make big bucks step it up...

You are 19 and now is a perfect time to start to save for your future and set your self up financially and starting with 6K now will only grow more an more decades to come... One thing you sould do is to educate yourself on the styles of investing. Stocks are not the only method and since you are young i would advise against dumping your money in the stock market unless you know what the hell you are doing. There are some guys in this forum that you can contact if you are really inerested in investing in stocks since they know what they are doing and seem to enjoy it, but they will tell you to practice paper trading( trading money that physically isnt there) so if you loose out its not your money...

I have developed a basic investment FAQ at the top of this forum and it wouldnt hurt to take a look at it and it should answer alot of your questions..

But your idea and gut feeling are right, but its your choice... its a nice car but whats more important to you... you got to ask yourself these questions.



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I took a look at it and realized how much variation is out there and how much is actually to be learned.

Is there a paper trading program? How do you go by that?




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Yeah contact rico91stang he is the stock trading guru up here, im sure he can get you squared away!



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Also keep in mind your BMW is going to cost a lot more to run and maintain than a simpler, more economical car. Investing at this age is a huge advantage and you will thank yourself later when you're ready to retire and have had ~$6k (more than that if you factor in the cost savings of running a more economical car) compounding for ~40 years. I'd say you have your head in the right place - sell the car at a good price. I'd look into mutual funds before you get your feet wet with stocks.



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Keep the car. You are 19 years old. Live a little. You got a BMW. My time to get my BMW is still someday. First was to save up some cash. Then someday was after I bought my house. Someday could have been after I got married. I'm not sure when someday will be because I got to start saving up my 2 son's college education. Oh, I got to start on my retirement too.

Your someday is now. You have the rest of your life to drive the automatic Accord LX and Carmy LE. Keep the BMW.

Once you get it (a luxury car- status symbol) out of your system, you won't be looking over your shoulder wondering what car to get, while you are in your Kia Sedona minivan with two kids in the back.

Cliff: What Token said.



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Keep the car. You are 19 years old. Live a little. You got a BMW. My time to get my BMW is still someday. First was to save up some cash. Then someday was after I bought my house. Someday could have been after I got married. I'm not sure when someday will be because I got to start saving up my 2 son's college education. Oh, I got to start on my retirement too.

Your someday is now. You have the rest of your life to drive the automatic Accord LX and Carmy LE. Keep the BMW.

Once you get it (a luxury car- status symbol) out of your system, you won't be looking over your shoulder wondering what car to get, while you are in your Kia Sedona minivan with two kids in the back.

Cliff: What Token said.

I know exactly where you're coming from I've worked hard saving up for a car so this is not an easy decision for me. AT ALL



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Quote, originally posted by Token Blk Guy »
Yeah contact rico91stang he is the stock trading guru up here, im sure he can get you squared away!

Trading is the key word... Not everyone has the nack for swing trading like rico91stand does. He's read countless books and has a strategy and excellent money management... it's best to remain with a long-term fundamental view of the market until you may grasp how it operates and moves. Trust me, you'll lose if you try to follow a system (like rico's) that you couldn't possibly comprehend (yet).

Sell the car. Save the money, invest and explore.



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Quote, originally posted by Matgallis »
Trading is the key word... Not everyone has the nack for swing trading like rico91stand does. He's read countless books and has a strategy and excellent money management... it's best to remain with a long-term fundamental view of the market until you may grasp how it operates and moves. Trust me, you'll lose if you try to follow a system (like rico's) that you couldn't possibly comprehend (yet).

Sell the car. Save the money, invest and explore.

That's encouraging, so you think an investment like VISA wouldnt be worth getting into at my level of comprehension of how stocks work?

Im in the process of ordering books recommended to me about the market


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I dont have the time nor the desire to learn to trade stocks day in and day out. I love money managment but i cant sit and watch a screen all day, that shit would drive me crazy!!



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I say, sell the car and use the money for investing...I wish I would have started investing more when i was 19 years old, granted I am only 22 now but still. Save it, get a BMW when you're retired and living comfortably.



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I know it's against the grain, but why not keep it? Later on in life you are going to be too caught up with the major responsiblities to have something like you do now. Mortgage, kids, utilities, everyday living paying for your own necessities. It's definately going to be a task to be reckoned with trying to get back into that nice BMW.

If it is paid off, I don't see what the big issue is. I can understand if you were making 400.00 payments for the next 5 years, but you aren't. Work and save. You don't have a car payment, so saving a nice chunk of change every month shouldn't be too much of a task.



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Well as of currently im contributing to the country's unemployment.

Well not really I work running sound for a liveband on sundays that pays me about 100$ each time, and I help a friend clean an office for 50$ on mondays so yea, at the same time im not really saving, a job recently has been really hard to find and Im also attending school this summer


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Well i didnt know you were unemployed. Since you are unemployed maybe keeping the car wouldnt hurt you. however if you look at it on the other spectrum. You could sell the bimmer take some of the money you make off of it and use that to tide you over until you get back on your feet... But like i said before the choice is yours.

Not to call you out or anything but line up your priorities, establish some stable income before you begine investing. There is no sence in investing if you are unemployed and have no money in the bank for emergencies..

When does your unemployment payments runout? if soon then what do you have planned.



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Quote, originally posted by imbillkamal »

That's encouraging, so you think an investment like VISA wouldnt be worth getting into at my level of comprehension of how stocks work?

Im in the process of ordering books recommended to me about the market

Sorry, wasn't trying to discourage you from investing (trying to discourage you from trading, i've lost thousands of dollars day trading, literally thousands).

Visa is an okay security, they have a lot of their future growth priced in and they're already trading a HUGE premium (cmpared to mastercard)

I like deep value stocks



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maintaining your bmw in the future will make a avg 19 year old go broke fastt if u dont have the income to back it up. for starters... at 88k your inspection II is coming up if not already done. thats gonna run at least 800 give or take ad thats not including the brakes. brakes are about 800-1000 since u havce to replace the rotors everytime. also just a heads up... your entire cooling system is going to crap out on u sooner or later... within 150k for sure. they are notorious for going out on beemers. at 19... u dont need a bmw but i could see how u want to keep it. but for a big return like that, u should just sell it... invest some money into something and make something back.... wait till you have a good steady income, then play with what u got.



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Maintaining a BMW is expensive compared to a Honda. Being that you're unemployed, I'd sell it, buy something that is cheaper to operate (repairs and gas) and save the rest. When you're employed, then start investing.

Also, do you still have an outstanding debt to your mom? Get the $10k for the car, pay your mom back the $2,400, buy a clean Integra, or Accord, and put the rest into an ING account. If you can live comfortably on the money you're making, just let it sit in the ING account, untill you get some investing knowlege. Earning 3% is better than a kick in the teeth.

Read everything you can on investing, and when you feel you're ready, pull the trigger. Also, congratulations on thinking about your future at 19. I started at 24, and wish I started earlier.



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No I do not have an outstanding debt to my mom, I owe her about 1500. I also haven't been able to sell the bmw, no ones buying anything. Carmax quoted my on a 6,000 trade in value...

how depressing.


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No I do not have an outstanding debt to my mom, I owe her about 1500.

Ugh thats still an outstanding debt.

Didnt you orginally say someone offered you like 12k for it at a local meet? What happened to that person?



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well 1200 now..

yea, and I listed it in on the autotrader, no bites yet.


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sell the car, put the max 2k into an IRA you will be rewarded when tax season comes.

buy a sensible car and start building your savings account and buy a house.





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sell it





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A car is a depreciating asset. An investment is usually a appreciating asset. Do you want to make money or lose money? Pretty simple i think.



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