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| « Re: Best Power Conference in college football. (dohcvtecpower) | « » 2:47 PM 6/5/2008 |
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it's cyclical. right now the SEC is on top. a few years ago, you could have easily made an argument for the Big XII. and actually, i seem to remember the Pac Ten roflpwning a couple SEC teams in the last few years (Cal > Tennessee, USC > Auburn and Arkansas). in 2002, the Big Ten was #1 and the Pac Ten was #2... and when FSU and Miami were kicking the shit out of everyone, it wasn't because ACC and Big East were the best, now was it? the thing is, the whole "SEC is god" mantra is a self perpetuating myth. if an SEC team wins the MNC, it's because the SEC is the best, but if an SEC team does NOT win the MNC, it's because the SEC is the best, and it's impossible for a team in that conference to go undefeated. so, meh, whatever, i think that a lot of it has to do with backlash for AUburn getting "screwed" in 2004, but if they'd scheduled a real team instead of The Citadel, their SOS would have been high enough for them to play for the MNC instead of Oklahoma.
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Well put. Every single fan in every corner of the nation can make an excuse for why so and so conference is the toughest (except for the WAC). Down south most will say SEC while west coasters may say Pac-10. As it goes, any team can beat any team on any given day and there really isn't any way to compare because each school plays a different schedule than the others. Plus injuries are factored in at various points of the season, which may diminish a W. For example, after D. Dixon got hurt, Oregon was left for dead and a completely different team by the end of the season. Say Georgia loses to ASU this year, does that mean the Pac-10 is better than the SEC? It would be easy for me to jump on the conference bandwagon, but I've said this before, I could honestly care less if UF, AU, UT, or SC ever win anything in life. I do think the depth of the SEC is a little greater than other conferences right now, but that is quickly becoming an even playing field in my opinion. Sorry for such a long post!
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| « Re: Best Power Conference in college football. (( . Y . )) | « » 11:17 PM 6/9/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by ( . Y . ) » | | it's cyclical. right now the SEC is on top. a few years ago, you could have easily made an argument for the Big XII. and actually, i seem to remember the Pac Ten roflpwning a couple SEC teams in the last few years (Cal > Tennessee, USC > Auburn and Arkansas). in 2002, the Big Ten was #1 and the Pac Ten was #2... and when FSU and Miami were kicking the shit out of everyone, it wasn't because ACC and Big East were the best, now was it? the thing is, the whole "SEC is god" mantra is a self perpetuating myth. if an SEC team wins the MNC, it's because the SEC is the best, but if an SEC team does NOT win the MNC, it's because the SEC is the best, and it's impossible for a team in that conference to go undefeated. so, meh, whatever, i think that a lot of it has to do with backlash for AUburn getting "screwed" in 2004, but if they'd scheduled a real team instead of The Citadel, their SOS would have been high enough for them to play for the MNC instead of Oklahoma. |
exactly, and SEC team does good, they say SEC owns. if nobody does, they say its because every team is so good so the SEC owns. I would say they are probably the best right now, im not sure who I would put at #2. maybe Pac 10there is so much parity nowadays in CFB its very hard to pick a "best" conference.
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| « Re: Best Power Conference in college football. (HT Chaplain) | « » 3:16 PM 6/10/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by HT Chaplain » | | sec then acc |
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the way you judge this is how exciting would it be watching the athletes of the two worst teams in the conference playing each other....SEC is the conference that wins that contest, hands down. I love teams all over all conferences; i enjoy c-usa and big east, and both are overall pretty sad, but SEC has such an incredible level of competition and coaching... i'll be honest though, the SWAC (and even the MEAC) are INCREDIBLE conferences for watching athletes do their thing. i don't care about stereotypes, racists claims or anything because i know for a fact that what i'm saying is true.
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| « Re: Best Power Conference in college football. (builthatch) | « » 9:28 PM 6/13/2008 |
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SEC PAC-10 <-- Just because USC can beat literally any team Big Ten ACC Big East Big XII
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| « Re: Best Power Conference in college football. (HT Chaplain) | « » 6:04 PM 6/15/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by HT Chaplain » | | sec then acc |
lol... when's the last time an ACC team won a BCS bowl? '99? the only conference that the ACC is better than is the Big Least. | Quote, originally posted by .M. » | SEC PAC-10 <-- Just because USC can beat literally any team Big Ten ACC Big East Big XII |
FYI, the Big XII had THREE top ten teams in the final polls last year. no other conference can say that. not even the Big Bad SEC. 
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| « Re: Best Power Conference in college football. (( . Y . )) | « » 6:20 PM 6/15/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by ( . Y . ) » | lol... when's the last time an ACC team won a BCS bowl? '99? the only conference that the ACC is better than is the Big Least. FYI, the Big XII had THREE top ten teams in the final polls last year. no other conference can say that. not even the Big Bad SEC.  |
yea I LOL'd at the ACC comment. but OMG the SEC has such tough schedules
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| « Re: Best Power Conference in college football. (builthatch) | « » 6:49 AM 6/16/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by builthatch » | | the way you judge this is how exciting would it be watching the athletes of the two worst teams in the conference playing each other.... SEC is the conference that wins that contest, hands down. I love teams all over all conferences; i enjoy c-usa and big east, and both are overall pretty sad, but SEC has such an incredible level of competition and coaching...
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That's how I look at questions like this as well. Sure depending on years a certain conference might not have THE very best team but looking just at the number one spot for a given year doesn't mean squat. The real question is how does the entire conference stack up as a whole in terms of total talent season after season after season. For instance each conference ranks it's 7 best teams and then those go and play the equivalent ranked teams from every other conference who would come out with the overall best record year after year? I don't know much but in that scenario I think it would be SEC domination. People talk about rivalries but down here it's as if EVERY team is the epic rival of every other team. Everyone knows Auburn vs Alabama as being huge, which it is, but it's also just more historical. The reality is if you show up in Auburn when they are playing LSU, Georgia, Florida, etc it is nearly just as heated. The competitive drive is just insane.
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| « Re: Best Power Conference in college football. (ActiveAero) | « » 4:15 PM 6/16/2008 |
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i won't argue with that, but it's pretty much the same everywhere else too... it might not get as much hype everywhere else, but i guarantee you that Indiana and Purdue hate each other just as much as Vandy and Tennecleat hate each other or Missouri and Kansas hate each other or Washington and Wazzoo hate each other or Texas and aTm hate each other (and NO ONE hates each other more than Ohio State hates Michigan: the best rivalries also have the highest level of competition)... but the other conferences don't have an entire network extolling their virtues like the SEC does. shit, Bob Greise is a Big Ten guy, but i've never heard someone pimp a conference the way he pimps the SEC now that he's working for CBS. money talks, i guess... and sorry, but your bottom tier SEC teams [freak]ing SUCK just like the bottom tier teams in any conference SUCK. woohoo. Ole Miss was 'good' when Eli was there. what, they went like 8-5 in his senior year, right? please. if that's the best season your school has had in like 30 years, you fukcing blow. Vandy? sucks. Miss st? sucks. Kentucky? sucks. Bama? used to be good, but sucks. say that the talent is better in weak SEC schools, and i'll point out first rounders from bottom tier teams in EVERY conference. and speaking of depth, SEVEN different schools have won the Big Ten in the last ten years... and EIGHT have played in BCS equivalent bowl games in the last 13 years. when's the last time Vandy played in January? or Kentucky? but Purdue, Northwestern, Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Illinois, Iowa, and Wisconsin all have, and in the BCS bowls too. hell, the only schools missing from that list are Indiana, which is a basketball school, Sparty, which is a mental basketball school, and Minnesota, which won 10 games just 3 years ago, and put two of the baddest RBs currently in the NFL in Marion Barber and Lawrence Maroney. you do know that they were team mates and BOTH of them rushed for 1000+ for 3 straight years in Minny, right? and let's face it. the SEC for the large part does NOT schedule tough OOC competition, and the tough OOC competition they do face in the bowl games is played basically in the SEC's back yard. (Gator, Peach, Outback, Citrus, Orange, Sugar... etc.) that goes a LONG way towards perpetuating the "sec is god' MYTH.
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| « Re: Best Power Conference in college football. (( . Y . )) | « » 10:12 AM 6/17/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by ( . Y . ) » | and let's face it. the SEC for the large part does NOT schedule tough OOC competition, and the tough OOC competition they do face in the bowl games is played basically in the SEC's back yard. (Gator, Peach, Outback, Citrus, Orange, Sugar... etc.) that goes a LONG way towards perpetuating the "sec is god' MYTH. |
Well, speaking on behalf of UGA, athletic director Damon Evans is doing his best to get Georgia GOING places and playing games. For instance, this year it's Arizona State and they have tried numerous times to schedule something with ND and various other big schools across the nation. It can easily assist with recruiting, but he is also trying to erase the notion that SEC teams don't travel, which is pretty much true.
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i actually do know that. UGA's AD and Ohio State's AD have been talking about getting the Dawgs and the Bucks together... hopefully it happens.  and the fact that the SEC generally doesn't travel outside of Dixie is also one small reason that i might support a playoff system (all we need is a +1 in 9 out of 10 years.) i'd LOVE to see a team from the deep south come up to C-bus and play in shit weather in December. it's pretty well documented that warm weather teams struggle when the temps dip below 40. :D
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| « Re: Best Power Conference in college football. (( . Y . )) | « » 8:49 PM 6/19/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by ( . Y . ) » | i actually do know that. UGA's AD and Ohio State's AD have been talking about getting the Dawgs and the Bucks together... hopefully it happens.  and the fact that the SEC generally doesn't travel outside of Dixie is also one small reason that i might support a playoff system (all we need is a +1 in 9 out of 10 years.) i'd LOVE to see a team from the deep south come up to C-bus and play in shit weather in December. it's pretty well documented that warm weather teams struggle when the temps dip below 40. :D |
Oh not doubt my online forum friend. Just like when the Falcons traveled to Philly to play the Eagles and absolutely sucked it up. I'd love to see UGA go to Columbus and play there or even in South Bend and then have ya'll come kick it off Between the Hedges. That would be a great home-and-home IMO! I really wanna get Washington in a match and let them know who the real DAWGS are!
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Penn State and Big Ten fan, but I must agree the SEC is at the moment the best conference in the country as a whole. Georgia is gonna be a beast this year
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| Quote, originally posted by SCIrONic » | | Penn State and Big Ten fan, but I must agree the SEC is at the moment the best conference in the country as a whole. Georgia is gonna be a beast this year |
i can make a serious argument for the Big XII.
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| Quote, originally posted by ( . Y . ) » | i actually do know that. UGA's AD and Ohio State's AD have been talking about getting the Dawgs and the Bucks together... hopefully it happens.  and the fact that the SEC generally doesn't travel outside of Dixie is also one small reason that i might support a playoff system (all we need is a +1 in 9 out of 10 years.) i'd LOVE to see a team from the deep south come up to C-bus and play in shit weather in December. it's pretty well documented that warm weather teams struggle when the temps dip below 40. :D |
EXACTLY they never travel north, much less travel anywhere for an out of conference game. 8 home games
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| Quote, originally posted by ( . Y . ) » | | it's cyclical | so true| Quote, originally posted by ( . Y . ) » | i can make a serious argument for the Big XII. |
This MU fan would like to ask about this powerful SEC. Cotton Bowl anybody? SEC speed? Ask Tony Temple and his 280 some Cotton Bowl rushing record yards about that.
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Power? Big 10 hits harder than all you other pussies! GO BUCKS!
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I know it's just preseason, but I'm just sayin'. It's either SEC or Big XII, and aside from ( . Y . ), I can't believe the lack of respect for the Big XII.1. Georgia (22) 0-0 1,528 2. Ohio State (21) 0-0 1,506 3. USC (12) 0-0 1,490 4. Oklahoma (4) 0-0 1,444 5. Florida (6) 0-0 1,415 6. Missouri 0-0 1,266 7. LSU 0-0 1,135 8. West Virginia 0-0 1,116 9. Clemson 0-0 1,105 10. Auburn 0-0 968 11. Texas 0-0 966 12. Texas Tech 0-0 786 13. Wisconsin 0-0 771 14. Kansas 0-0 707 < ------- *middle finger* 15. Arizona State 0-0 631 16. Brigham Young 0-0 590 17. Virginia Tech 0-0 578 18. Tennessee 0-0 509 19. South Florida 0-0 496 20. Illinois 0-0 483 21. Oregon 0-0 366 22. Penn State 0-0 293 23. Wake Forest 0-0 227 24. Alabama 0-0 89 25. Pittsburgh 0-0 85
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| Quote, originally posted by .M. » | PAC-10 <-- Just because USC can beat literally any team
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My lack of respect for the big 12 now is because of colt mccoy, he's simply not going to be able to lead that team to the promise land. They should have kept Javon Sneed.
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