Big, Bigger, and Biggest.... Simple PED/QSD H22 stroker dyno results!!! - Honda-Tech

ParrisEngineDynamics · 05-24-2008, 10:40 AM

It has been awhile since I have posted dyno graphs of our H22 stroker motors that we have been building over the past year.

95mm stroke- 87mm bore JDM type S pistons, Unported head, Blox cams, springs & retainers, Skunk2 IM, DH-Racing TB, Tuned with chrome pro.

97 stroke- 87mm bore base model prelude pistons (machined), stock rods, unported head, Blox cams, springs & retainers, TWM ITB's. Tuned with chrome pro.

99 stroke- same exact mods as the 95 stroke but with a custom 99mm crank

With the ITB's you can see that the torque curve does not jump up and fall off as it does with the manifold.

If you look at both the 95mm and 99mm stroke you can see that the curves are almost identical. You can see that the ITB's really help the top end and especially the flat spot around 7100-7600 RPM due to air flow of the manifold vs. the ITBs.

This is the first time I have really sat down and compared graphs and really looked at the ITB dyno chart. I may just have to throw the ITBs on the 99mm engine and see what we can do.

~Derek

Modified by ParrisEngineDynamics at 6:49 PM 5/24/2008

2fastGSR · 05-24-2008, 12:32 PM

Wow . That is a great test.

to you for sharing the info.

Man, 262 with a stock head, 2.4L 87x99 build ? ? ? If my new H build doesnt make that im going to have to re-think my strategy ! ! !

Modified by 2fastGSR at 3:44 PM 5/24/2008

Bserious · 05-24-2008, 12:54 PM

AS much as I don;t want to call them 'prototypes' because there really wasn't many custom components needed, these setups are helping us determine what steps make more power than another.

Your stratagy should be head and cams. This was all acheived with sub .500 lift. Most of the simple K's are .530-.550.

FLATBUSH PROJECTS · 05-24-2008, 01:16 PM

can i get a 99stroker crank

bjones · 05-24-2008, 02:44 PM

wow... can i get pm'd on the price of these stroker kits???

Shadowz7429 · 05-24-2008, 04:06 PM

Awesome figures dude

191 torque!

alterdcreations · 05-24-2008, 05:54 PM

so its a modded k24 crank and rods with what pistons?.
really nice power for such a light build. easily a extra hp in the cams and head.

what compression are you running?

jdm_ef9 · 05-25-2008, 05:06 AM

Very good info here...

Just the begining!! Very interesting how the 95/99mm motors have such a similar powerband. Guess that just shows you what effect ITB's have.

Wonder what would change if headwork was done??????

bjones · 05-25-2008, 08:52 AM

what was done to the k24 crank and rods to fit into the h-block???

b19coupe · 05-25-2008, 09:29 AM

Very educational

Lot's of H-series graphs floating around lately

overrev_it · 05-25-2008, 09:33 AM

I'm wondering how's the powerband compared to a reguler 87x99 K and the area under the curve

turbohybridlude · 05-25-2008, 11:45 AM

wow good numbers, now i kno wut to aspect from my 95mm setup

Modified by turbohybridlude at 4:55 PM 5/25/2008

crxmanifold · 05-25-2008, 01:46 PM

Is that one of the 78mm dhr throttle body units?

Hamstr323 · 05-25-2008, 01:51 PM

thanks for the info! she looks like a beast now get it to the track!

AllMotorRandy · 05-26-2008, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ParrisEngineDynamics

It has been awhile since I have posted dyno graphs of our H22 stroker motors that we have been building over the past year.

95mm stroke- 87mm bore JDM type S pistons, Unported head, Blox cams, springs & retainers, Skunk2 IM, DH-Racing TB, Tuned with chrome pro.

97 stroke- 87mm bore base model prelude pistons (machined), stock rods, unported head, Blox cams, springs & retainers, TWM ITB's. Tuned with chrome pro.

99 stroke- same exact mods as the 95 stroke but with a custom 99mm crank

With the ITB's you can see that the torque curve does not jump up and fall off as it does with the manifold.

If you look at both the 95mm and 99mm stroke you can see that the curves are almost identical. You can see that the ITB's really help the top end and especially the flat spot around 7100-7600 RPM due to air flow of the manifold vs. the ITBs.

This is the first time I have really sat down and compared graphs and really looked at the ITB dyno chart. I may just have to throw the ITBs on the 99mm engine and see what we can do.

~Derek

Modified by ParrisEngineDynamics at 6:49 PM 5/24/2008

I call B.S.......

ParrisEngineDynamics · 05-26-2008, 08:42 AM

Shut up foolio you are just mad cause I didn't send you a crank yet.

Where's the resume Randy haha!!!

~Derek

AllMotorRandy · 05-26-2008, 08:52 AM

hahahahaha! see you next week!

lude98SH · 05-26-2008, 10:09 AM

what rod piston combo are you running with the 99mm setup ?

JDM JEFFREY · 05-26-2008, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ParrisEngineDynamics

Where's the resume Randy haha!!!

~Derek

I sent you mine

..lol
have you put the itbs on the 99mil motor yet..

2fastGSR · 05-26-2008, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ParrisEngineDynamics

Shut up foolio you are just mad cause I didn't send you a crank yet.

~Derek

99, randy?

Thought we had plans for a little bigger?

projectef · 05-26-2008, 12:14 PM

nice build man.

AllMotorRandy · 05-26-2008, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2fastGSR

99, randy?

Thought we had plans for a little bigger?

the 99 crank is for the street car motor....

2fastGSR · 05-26-2008, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllMotorRandy

the 99 crank is for the street car motor....

Thats my boy . . .

05-24-2008, 10:40 AM	#1
ParrisEngineDynamics Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Jose, Ca, USA Posts: 529	Big, Bigger, and Biggest.... Simple PED/QSD H22 stroker dyno results!!! It has been awhile since I have posted dyno graphs of our H22 stroker motors that we have been building over the past year. 95mm stroke- 87mm bore JDM type S pistons, Unported head, Blox cams, springs & retainers, Skunk2 IM, DH-Racing TB, Tuned with chrome pro. 97 stroke- 87mm bore base model prelude pistons (machined), stock rods, unported head, Blox cams, springs & retainers, TWM ITB's. Tuned with chrome pro. 99 stroke- same exact mods as the 95 stroke but with a custom 99mm crank With the ITB's you can see that the torque curve does not jump up and fall off as it does with the manifold. If you look at both the 95mm and 99mm stroke you can see that the curves are almost identical. You can see that the ITB's really help the top end and especially the flat spot around 7100-7600 RPM due to air flow of the manifold vs. the ITBs. This is the first time I have really sat down and compared graphs and really looked at the ITB dyno chart. I may just have to throw the ITBs on the 99mm engine and see what we can do. ~Derek Modified by ParrisEngineDynamics at 6:49 PM 5/24/2008 __________________ Parris Engine Dynamics (209) 467-4909 http://ParrisEngineDynamics.com http://QuarterSportsDrag.com Holland Racing all motor unibody civic 10.16@132. A/M street cars Mike Nhew 11.7@115 Josh Gray 11.4@119 Turbo Street cars Pe Thor 10.7@135 Thang 10.44@133

05-24-2008, 12:32 PM	#2
2fastGSR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Jersey, USA Posts: 3,752	Re: Big, Bigger, and Biggest.... Simple PED/QSD H22 stroker dyno results!!! (ParrisEngineDynamics) Wow . That is a great test. to you for sharing the info. Man, 262 with a stock head, 2.4L 87x99 build ? ? ? If my new H build doesnt make that im going to have to re-think my strategy ! ! ! Modified by 2fastGSR at 3:44 PM 5/24/2008 __________________ 318hp 2.6L All Motor H2B PART OUT Buy My H2B Parts http://www.hondamarketplace.com/show....php?t=2438973

05-24-2008, 12:54 PM	#3
Bserious Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NORCAL Posts: 825	Re: Big, Bigger, and Biggest.... Simple PED/QSD H22 stroker dyno results!!! (2fastGSR) AS much as I don;t want to call them 'prototypes' because there really wasn't many custom components needed, these setups are helping us determine what steps make more power than another. Your stratagy should be head and cams. This was all acheived with sub .500 lift. Most of the simple K's are .530-.550. __________________ QSD 9167921549 BDHK... all just numbers.

05-24-2008, 01:16 PM	#4
FLATBUSH PROJECTS Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: soon to LBC Posts: 2,368	Re: Big, Bigger, and Biggest.... Simple PED/QSD H22 stroker dyno results!!! (ParrisEngineDynamics) can i get a 99stroker crank __________________ -NOMIS IND.-CCCYLINDERHEADS.COM-GREENLOVE BICYCLES-H22SQUAD.COM- FLATBUSH PROJECTS WHERE BEER IS GOOD AS MONEY

05-24-2008, 02:44 PM	#5
bjones Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: usa Posts: 495	Re: Big, Bigger, and Biggest.... Simple PED/QSD H22 stroker dyno results!!! (FLATBUSH PROJECTS) wow... can i get pm'd on the price of these stroker kits??? __________________ Current project: fully built h23 vtec h2b in dc2

05-24-2008, 04:06 PM	#6
Shadowz7429 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: UK, UK Posts: 2,323	Awesome figures dude 191 torque! __________________ Endless Horizon Motorsport

05-24-2008, 05:54 PM	#7
alterdcreations Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Single camshafting for now in, N.Y. Posts: 3,222	Re: (Shadowz7429) so its a modded k24 crank and rods with what pistons?. really nice power for such a light build. easily a extra hp in the cams and head. what compression are you running? __________________ http://images.honda-tech.com/set1/smile/emcocktl.gif http://images.honda-tech.com/set1/smile/emdgust.gif

05-25-2008, 05:06 AM	#8
jdm_ef9 Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: bolisbuilt., PA Posts: 1,279	Re: (alterdcreations) Very good info here... Just the begining!! Very interesting how the 95/99mm motors have such a similar powerband. Guess that just shows you what effect ITB's have. Wonder what would change if headwork was done?????? __________________ 91 Civic - 250whp G23VTEC Team H2B "10's or BUST" [bolisbuilt.] [Hybridynamics]

05-25-2008, 08:52 AM	#9
bjones Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: usa Posts: 495	Re: (jdm_ef9) what was done to the k24 crank and rods to fit into the h-block??? __________________ Current project: fully built h23 vtec h2b in dc2

05-25-2008, 09:29 AM	#10
b19coupe Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Southern, California, U.S.A. Posts: 9,299	Re: Big, Bigger, and Biggest.... Simple PED/QSD H22 stroker dyno results!!! (ParrisEngineDynamics) Very educational Lot's of H-series graphs floating around lately __________________ C.A.T.

05-25-2008, 09:33 AM	#11
overrev_it Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: KSA Posts: 57	Re: Big, Bigger, and Biggest.... Simple PED/QSD H22 stroker dyno results!!! I'm wondering how's the powerband compared to a reguler 87x99 K and the area under the curve

05-25-2008, 11:45 AM	#12
turbohybridlude Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: plainfield, nj, usa Posts: 80	Re: Big, Bigger, and Biggest.... Simple PED/QSD H22 stroker dyno results!!! (ParrisEngineDynamics) wow good numbers, now i kno wut to aspect from my 95mm setup Modified by turbohybridlude at 4:55 PM 5/25/2008 __________________ allmotor h23vtec h2b

05-25-2008, 01:46 PM	#13
crxmanifold Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 103	Re: Big, Bigger, and Biggest.... Simple PED/QSD H22 stroker dyno results!!! (turbohybridlude) Is that one of the 78mm dhr throttle body units?

05-25-2008, 01:51 PM	#14
Hamstr323 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: montebello, ca, U.S.A Posts: 2,156	Re: Big, Bigger, and Biggest.... Simple PED/QSD H22 stroker dyno results!!! (crxmanifold) thanks for the info! she looks like a beast now get it to the track! __________________ 1991 civic si ::the daily:: 2006 element ::daily/weekend:: 1998 Suzuki GSX-R 750 srad sold! 2004 Yamaha R6 http://www.ELABIKERS.COM

05-26-2008, 08:42 AM	#16
ParrisEngineDynamics Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Jose, Ca, USA Posts: 529	Re: Big, Bigger, and Biggest.... Simple PED/QSD H22 stroker dyno results!!! (AllMotorRandy) Shut up foolio you are just mad cause I didn't send you a crank yet. Where's the resume Randy haha!!! ~Derek __________________ Parris Engine Dynamics (209) 467-4909 http://ParrisEngineDynamics.com http://QuarterSportsDrag.com Holland Racing all motor unibody civic 10.16@132. A/M street cars Mike Nhew 11.7@115 Josh Gray 11.4@119 Turbo Street cars Pe Thor 10.7@135 Thang 10.44@133

05-26-2008, 08:52 AM	#17
AllMotorRandy Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: H2Bville, So Cal (getting ready to move to Kville) Posts: 1,682	Re: Big, Bigger, and Biggest.... Simple PED/QSD H22 stroker dyno results!!! (ParrisEngineDynamics) hahahahaha! see you next week! __________________ Team H2B "10's or BUST!" Exospeed Racing Products \| Orisue \| Skunk2 \| MFactory \| QSD \| Camp1320

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lude98SH Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Drexel Hill, Pa, 19026 Posts: 2,518	Re: Big, Bigger, and Biggest.... Simple PED/QSD H22 stroker dyno results!!! (AllMotorRandy) what rod piston combo are you running with the 99mm setup ?

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projectef Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: windsor, ca, sonoma Posts: 390	nice build man. __________________ http://is.rely.net/1-92-29998-l-1gbM...AmVuBW3hGg.gif (BTR) buildtunerace.com is underway. newest street clothing, stickers and more.