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| « Re: 400hp + stock axles + 24.5's = A tow home from the track (slotec) | « » 1:15 PM 5/14/2008 |
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yes u should always pre load with the e- brake should help if u didn't use the e brake last time, thats why u most likely broke an axle cause u didn't use the e-brake. hope that helps 
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| « Re: 400hp + stock axles + 24.5's = A tow home from the track (slotec) | « » 1:16 PM 5/14/2008 |
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Wait, so you were trying to preload without using the e-brake?What i do is put the car in 1st, pull the e brake all the way up and hold it there and use the clutch to more the car forward to stage. Once it stage, with the e brake all the way up, i let the clutch out as much as i can without having the car move forward. Once the 3rd yellow light drop, i drop the e brake and feather the clutch depending on how it feel.
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| « Re: 400hp + stock axles + 24.5's = A tow home from the track (slotec) | « » 1:17 PM 5/14/2008 |
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when i was making 380 whp using 24.5 slicks the stock autozone axles lasted longer than the top of the line gator axles. i dont know how you preload without the ebrake. especially with the antilag...
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| « Re: 400hp + stock axles + 24.5's = A tow home from the track (StolenTeg) | « » 1:18 PM 5/14/2008 |
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I actually didn't pre-load a bit my entire time racing so far, I did break an axle once but that was totally my fault as I just sidestepped on street tires and the car was all over lolI would feel where the car wanted to leave, and keep there then let the clutch out firmly, but smoothly and on a stock GSR gearset with DSS stage 5's I was in the clear all the time. But I do agree with stolenteg, I just never took the time to do it haha
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I ran stock axles(mid-high 10's) for over a year and never had a problem...guess I was just lucky. lol. Must be some good sets and some bad. good times none the less.
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ok ill try that but it seems like the antilag wont let it build boost if the clutch isnt in but to a certain point. Im hopefully going out to the track this weekend and if the axles hold together should be well into the 11s.
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| Quote, originally posted by slotec » | | ok ill try that but it seems like the antilag wont let it build boost if the clutch isnt in but to a certain point. Im hopefully going out to the track this weekend and if the axles hold together should be well into the 11s. |
Slam the antilag to a button on the wheel if thats the case, or adjust the clutch switch
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hook the antilag up to the ebrake
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| Quote, originally posted by slotec » | | ok ill try that but it seems like the antilag wont let it build boost if the clutch isnt in but to a certain point. Im hopefully going out to the track this weekend and if the axles hold together should be well into the 11s. |
Just wondering what ems you are using for the anti lag?
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im curently running stock axles with 25x9x13's @ 8psi , launching with 20psi boost. never broke one at the track yet
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| « Re: 400hp + stock axles + 24.5's = A tow home from the track (rota92) | « » 11:49 PM 5/14/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by rota92 » | | I actually didn't pre-load a bit my entire time racing so far, I did break an axle once but that was totally my fault as I just sidestepped on street tires and the car was all over lol I would feel where the car wanted to leave, and keep there then let the clutch out firmly, but smoothly and on a stock GSR gearset with DSS stage 5's I was in the clear all the time. But I do agree with stolenteg, I just never took the time to do it haha |
Feel like an idiot but what does "sidestepping" mean???
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| « Re: 400hp + stock axles + 24.5's = A tow home from the track (FastEg6) | « » 1:00 AM 5/15/2008 |
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raise the launch rpm and lower the tire pressure. you need to spin the tires in order to keep the axles alive.
ive ran9.8's & 158 on stock axles on 24.5x9x13. if your on stock axles, ALWAYS bring a spare set. a 10 min axle change is a lot easier/cheaper than a tow!
used oem honda axles work way better than any of the napa/autozone "new" axles.
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| « Re: 400hp + stock axles + 24.5's = A tow home from the track (Turbo-charged) | « » 1:33 AM 5/15/2008 |
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preloading saves axles imo...
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| « Re: 400hp + stock axles + 24.5's = A tow home from the track (Turbo-charged) | « » 1:42 AM 5/15/2008 |
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Thanks Joe, yea Im going to bring an extra set when I go just incase. Im going to try the antilag at 8000rpms and 10psi off the line instread of the 6500rpms and 10psi I was trying. Wouldnt I want to keep the tire pressure higher to get it to spin a little off the line?
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| « Re: 400hp + stock axles + 24.5's = A tow home from the track (slotec) | « » 5:05 PM 5/15/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by slotec » | | Thanks Joe, yea Im going to bring an extra set when I go just incase. Im going to try the antilag at 8000rpms and 10psi off the line instread of the 6500rpms and 10psi I was trying. |
Thats a good idea. Also try preloading more, and with the e-brake this time. The increased RPM from the higher antilag may help out with building boost a little better, so if you let the clutch out a little more while on the e-brake, you mite be ok. (as far as snapping another axle)
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| « Re: 400hp + stock axles + 24.5's = A tow home from the track (Silva Bullit DC4) | « » 5:11 PM 5/15/2008 |
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Ive seen some of Tony1's vids where he preloads so far with the clutch and e-brake, you can see his rear end of his Integra squat!  
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| « Re: 400hp + stock axles + 24.5's = A tow home from the track (b18avtec(A!!M0TOR)) | « » 6:52 PM 5/15/2008 |
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yeah load it against the e brake.
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| « Re: 400hp + stock axles + 24.5's = A tow home from the track (rota92) | « » 8:38 PM 5/15/2008 |
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I would feel where the car wanted to leave, and keep there then let the clutch out firmly, but smoothly. |
Same method I'v always used.| Quote, originally posted by rota92 » |
But I do agree with stolenteg, I just never took the time to do it haha |
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when you guys are talking about stock axles are you talking about oem honda axles or auto parts store axles?
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| « Re: 400hp + stock axles + 24.5's = A tow home from the track (Turbo-charged) | « » 2:06 PM 5/16/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Turbo-charged » | | raise the launch rpm and lower the tire pressure. you need to spin the tires in order to keep the axles alive.
ive ran9.8's & 158 on stock axles on 24.5x9x13. if your on stock axles, ALWAYS bring a spare set. a 10 min axle change is a lot easier/cheaper than a tow!
used oem honda axles work way better than any of the napa/autozone "new" axles.
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i agree 100 percent Joe. try 7-8psi in the slicks, and more rpm. and always bring an extra set of axles. not sure how you can preload without using the ebrake. the car would start moving.
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| « Re: 400hp + stock axles + 24.5's = A tow home from the track (mike@synapse motorsport) | « » 1:46 PM 5/17/2008 |
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How heavy is your car? I ran an 11.9 @121 and was making about 340 whp, in an eg hatch. I was just thinking that 115mph seemed kind of low for a trap speed? But i guess i dont know, by all means im not calling your car slow, maybe its the tq difference between a b16 and a b18c? And i did run stock axels on that pass i made. they were oem honda, which someone already stated seem to hold up better than any aftermarket napa/autozone stuff.
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| « Re: 400hp + stock axles + 24.5's = A tow home from the track (P-Lucas) | « » 5:36 PM 5/17/2008 |
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went to the track yesterday I made 2 passes on the 24.5s preloading but had horrible 60fts. Went 12.3@115 with a 2.0 60ft , then a 12.4@116 with a 2.1 60ft. I was preloading using the ebrake. They decided they wanted to reprep the begining of the track and I was the first car to run. In the back of my mind I knew something bad was going to happen. Went for my next pass, burnout was fine and went to take off on the line and snapped the driver axle into the halfshaft. Im getting frustrated with these slicks, I never had this problem with the 22s but I had a problem with running out of gear in 4th with those. my 1/8mph did go up from 90mph(22s) to 92.5(24.5s). Seems like its hard to get the slicks moving but once I do they are fine. I was also running between 12-13psi of pressure in the 24.5s
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