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| « Re: GSR or ITR tranny??? (laziebun) | « » 3:05 PM 5/14/2008 |
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ITR=shorter (IMO better) gearing, lsd stock
GSR=longer gearing (lower highway revs), no lsdYou could just buy a quaife LSD and put it in the gsr tranny or even put an LS 5th gear in either of the trannies for lower highway revs. If you plan on taking it to the track, the GSR may be better if you have to shift into 5th before the end of the 1/4. You probably already knew most of this but i'm saying it for other people who check out this question looking for the advantages of both. My vote goes to the ITR tranny.
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Same final drive for both. Depends upon whether or not you want the torsen LSD or upgrade to a higher model. If it is a JDM ITR transmission, final drive is 4.785 as opposed to 4.4. For turbo, either one could work.
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what to do .....what to do....WWJD????
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gsrt
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what do you think about LS tranny? thanks
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laziebun
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i have an LS now, but befor that had a gsr. I rather much have the gsr anyday over the LS. But it grinding third and pops out so im in the market of getting a new one and was thinking of teh ITR.
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| « Re: GSR or ITR tranny??? (laziebun) | « » 7:26 AM 5/15/2008 |
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If your going for something to just drop in...go with the itr. Great gearing and lsd. If you wanted to rebuild it. Get the gsr and drop in the quaife lsd.
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| « Re: GSR or ITR tranny??? (obnoxiousls) | « » 8:58 AM 5/15/2008 |
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you guys think about the price at all? 
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| « Re: GSR or ITR tranny??? (chippy) | « » 4:24 PM 5/15/2008 |
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He never said he was concerned about the price.
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laziebun
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| « Re: GSR or ITR tranny??? (obnoxiousls) | « » 9:16 PM 5/15/2008 |
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I came in first place in Ninja Warrior, so now im baller status.Well price is always a concern but im not to worried about it. Im actually going to buy one of the trannys at the dealers. The last used tranny i got was doo doo....was told it was fine and smooth..... drove 2 1/2hrs to pick it up and 3rd grinds and pops out. So i dont want to go through that hassel again. Im really leaning towards the ITR.....but i have copule of months to think about it. Thanks for all you guys input.
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| « Re: GSR or ITR tranny??? (laziebun) | « » 12:53 AM 5/16/2008 |
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Might be selling a gsr tranny soon
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| « Re: GSR or ITR tranny??? (laziebun) | « » 10:33 PM 6/5/2008 |
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Bummmmp.I really want to hear more on this subject. I'm looking at putting together a fully built GSR motor, looking to put down 450whp, and I want to have a tranny with the best gear ratios... ...preferrable one that's taller than a b16, (so I don't spin horrible from 1st to 3rd,)but shorter than an LS. Anyone else have more insight??
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| « Re: GSR or ITR tranny??? (EM-One) | « » 10:58 PM 6/5/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by EM-One » | | Bummmmp. I really want to hear more on this subject. I'm looking at putting together a fully built GSR motor, looking to put down 450whp, and I want to have a tranny with the best gear ratios... ...preferrable one that's taller than a b16, (so I don't spin horrible from 1st to 3rd,)but shorter than an LS. Anyone else have more insight?? |
boost by gear my friend  keep the b16 trans, you'll regret getting rid of it
*EDIT* Plus its a 4cyl there made to rev, im taching 3752rpm @70mph with my b16 trans. A gsr would still be taching 3482rpm @70 so there's not much of a difference with interstate drives
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gsrrrrrrrrrrr and yes i'm speaking out of my ass.
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| Quote, originally posted by Rickdrizzle » | | gsrrrrrrrrrrr and yes i'm speaking out of my ass. |
?? im confused haha 
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| Quote, originally posted by TheShodan » | | Same final drive for both. Depends upon whether or not you want the torsen LSD or upgrade to a higher model. If it is a JDM ITR transmission, final drive is 4.785 as opposed to 4.4. For turbo, either one could work. |
x2. Either one could really work. I would prefer the gsr tranny just because of the gearing. The only downfall is the ITR LSD. That is the only reason I would say type r. But if you are getting an aftermarket LSD, I would say GSR.
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| « Re: GSR or ITR tranny??? (laziebun) | « » 1:18 AM 6/6/2008 |
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If you decide to go GSR run a Quaiffe diff this might be of interest to you (about half way down the page).... http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2217142. Pm me and I can work something out for you.
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I run Type R Tranny and could not be any happier! Short gear ratio's FTW!!!!!!! My car is making 505whp and 360ft pounds tq at 22lbs of boost!
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| Quote, originally posted by TheShodan » | | Same final drive for both. Depends upon whether or not you want the torsen LSD or upgrade to a higher model. If it is a JDM ITR transmission, final drive is 4.785 as opposed to 4.4. For turbo, either one could work. |
If its a 98 spec or newer JDM ITR tranny it has the 4.7, 96-97 JDM ITR's had the 4.4
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The shortr the gear ratio the faster you will go down the track. its a mathamatical thang if you think abought it... b16/itr>gsr tanny
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I'm running a B16 1,2,3 and a GSR 4,5 with a 4.40 and a Quaife and I love it, I had an LS in the car since I bought it almost 5 yrs ago...... and I was damn near dead hooking 3rd gear on the street at 23psi on 205/50/50 BFG's, now with the B16/GSR gears I am lucky to hook 4th off the WG spring.However the LS gearing is just so horrible for a B-Series VTEC motor, my car now feels like it should, I always thought something was truly missing and I now know it was the tranny...... I would say for under 450whp go ITR above go GSR
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i went from itr to a gsr w/lsd. i like the gsr more.
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whats the gearbox number for a GSR tranny? at first i was told i had a Jap Spec b18c (SIR) motor and then i was told ive got a GSR motor, either way she goes hard I never realised you guys thort the GSR tranny was that good... i was going to dump it ages ago for an ITR box, glad i didnt... but what sorta prices and brand u guys use for LSD? as down in Australia, we basically get fcuk all parts...
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if the transmission is going in a daily driven car on regular tires then gsR all day, the taller gears will give better traction on the street compared to an itr and will relate to being a "faster" car on street daily driven tires
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| « Re: GSR or ITR tranny??? (laziebun) | « » 2:57 PM 6/12/2008 |
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Right now I am running a JDM 98 spec ITR tranny with 600whp setup, we allready changed the final drive to the older JDM ITR 4.4 and it is STILL too short geard for a hi hp boosted motor. I vote for GSR with quafe LSD, that`s what I`m getting next.
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