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 dc2 oem hid custom shield to LHD Lots of pics !!!!56K beware!!!!!!!
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ahmongboi




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6-11-2007
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Hi i've done a lens spacing on my oem hid but the output is not that impressive and i also wanted to get rid of the rhd so i decided to go ahead and do a custom shield to lhd. i don't know if it's been done before on integra but i didn't find any so yea i go ahead and do it. i've heard alot of rumors that it looks similar to s2k but judge for your self. i really want to do this without cutting my oem shield. i'll post up night pics later.





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12-26-2005
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Looks good, but I would make the step smaller. Its going to be huge at a longer distance.

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It IS a huge step, but it has a very nice cutoff and you put a lot of effort into making it LHD appropriate. Big



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that looks pretty damn good...Nice sharp color cutoff



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how did u get the plastic piece on the headlights apart? Sorry, my bulb in my headlight broke and it fell inside the headlight housing. I was wondering how you were able to take is apart so that i can take the bulb off?

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6-11-2007
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which plastic part. which bulb broke the lowbeam, high beam, fog light, or city



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striker_18




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12-25-2007
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that's really bad

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looking good



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6-21-2006
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did you use a heatgun? or did you just bake it for 5 mins and *ding* lol



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heat gun takes forever bake my cake.



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wow, that came out better than what I expected



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big step plus shield too close to the bowl.
Once you mess with the shield, you just messed with intensity. Also, shield is really high and straight instead of curvy. Curvy shields will give you width.
Poor JDM S2k's

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how long you set it in the oven for? im thinking of opening mine up and cleaning it a bit so i can replace my fog capsule



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just till you can tell that it will come apart easily.



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Quote, originally posted by striker_18 »
big step plus shield too close to the bowl.
Once you mess with the shield, you just messed with intensity. Also, shield is really high and straight instead of curvy. Curvy shields will give you width.
Poor JDM S2k's

yes its a big step...

the shield is not even 1 mm closer to the bulb.

intensity??? the shield only effects the cut off...
luminous intensity is only effected by changes in the wavelength of the light, a shield has no effect on the light's wavelength...

yes the shield is a bit high, basically lowering the cutoff line...

curvy, it doesn't matter... the oem one does not reflect the ray of light back to the bowl, so it doesn't matter if it was curved or not.

the width of the light pattern, i think, is defined by the bowl, distance of the lens, and diameter of the lens, and not by the shield.

this is why you don't want to use halogen projectors, because the bowl design is different.

those aren't jdm s2k projectors...
those are jdm integra projectors



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soymilk!



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Quote, originally posted by bpr0422 »

yes its a big step...

the shield is not even 1 mm closer to the bulb.

intensity??? the shield only effects the cut off...
luminous intensity is only effected by changes in the wavelength of the light, a shield has no effect on the light's wavelength...

yes the shield is a bit high, basically lowering the cutoff line...

curvy, it doesn't matter... the oem one does not reflect the ray of light back to the bowl, so it doesn't matter if it was curved or not.

the width of the light pattern, i think, is defined by the bowl, distance of the lens, and diameter of the lens, and not by the shield.

this is why you don't want to use halogen projectors, because the bowl design is different.

those aren't jdm s2k projectors...
those are jdm integra projectors


let me save you the embarrasment of your h-t life and give you a good advise. Do not talk about things you know nothing about.


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Quote, originally posted by striker_18 »
let me save you the embarrasment of your h-t life and give you a good advise. Do not talk about things you know nothing about.

so tell me whats wrong then, correct me...
don't dumb it down, explain why...


okay... after thinking about it again..

a curved cutoff sheild would have a slightly wider beam, vs one with a straight cut-off shield...
if you take light and model it using rays... you can sort-of imagine how the light would be reflected off the bowl and blocked by the shield...

but the width of the light pattern is not the same as the intensity of the light.
you can change the intensity by changing the wavelength...
to change the wavelength you would need to change the color temperature of the bulb...

the width is mostly affected by the bowl design...

a really simple example is a maglight, or one of the adjustable flashlights... to focus the beam you move the reflector bowl closer to filament, to make it wider, you move the bowl further away...

Modified by bpr0422 at 8:27 PM 5/3/2008



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again, this is your last time before I make you look like those ricers who add pointless mods and think horsepower is incrrased by such pointless modifications.

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Quote, originally posted by striker_18 »
again, this is your last time before I make you look like those ricers who add pointless mods and think horsepower is incrrased by such pointless modifications.

why do you keep giving warnings?

i don't care what you make me look like, this is the internet, who the hell cares if they are right or wrong...

if you know what you are talking about, then explain your reasoning... this is a "technical resource" so explain...

its as simple as that.

the more and more you post, it seems like you don't know what you are talking about.

explain why what the op is so bad.

how does modifying the shield negatively change the luminous intensity of the lighting?



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Quote, originally posted by bpr0422 »

why do you keep giving warnings?

i don't care what you make me look like, this is the internet, who the hell cares if they are right or wrong...

if you know what you are talking about, then explain your reasoning... this is a "technical resource" so explain...

its as simple as that.

the more and more you post, it seems like you don't know what you are talking about.

explain why what the op is so bad.

how does modifying the shield negatively change the luminous intensity of the lighting?


*sigh*
Once you mess with optics, you mess with output.
Reason being the shield is further away from the lense thus when light is projected, the way an HID bulb is being emitted off the glass bubble by the salt particle excitement, it bounces off the reflector. Then, they hit the shield to cut on the upper part. Actually, what makes the shield being put on the bottom and then being projected the total opposite when you see the output is because of the lense(You look at the lense from the flat through it, you will see everything upside down).
Many people think the shield is just a stoppage to the beam and then all the beam will concentrate on the top of the bowl and shinning down.
Anyways, I need pictures to test the projection but someone already did this for me:

Rx330 projector with OEM straight shield


Rx330 projector with curvy shield

Top: flat straight shield
Bottom: Curvy shield
Results: This is what you wrongly said output would be the same and it didn't matter whether it was curvy or flat/straight.

A)Placing the shield too high will block alot of the light being projected towards the lense. THAT will affect output.
B)Placing the shield too close to the lense will give you a bluer cutoff line and less light will be blocked but how light is being emitted will allow some light escaping. This escaped light will be wasted thus producing less output. You can get away with it IF the intensity is minor
C)Placing the shield too close to the bowl will block most of the light. You CAN'T get away with this at all

This guy did A + C together.



Modified by striker_18 at 12:56 PM 5/7/2008


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if you look at the op's pictures again...

the shield isn't moved closer to the bulb, the new shield looks like it is touching the old shield...

also the shield doesn't protrude into the bowl... touches the edge of the bowl...

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as for your examples..... the new curved sheild that was installed reflects more light compared to the oem one...

imo, this has a much more significant effect on the intensity of the light output, instead of the curved nature of the shield.

the two together, curved and reflective, is even more interesting, cause the curved shiny shield with reflect the light back to different parts of the bowl.

if you look at the JDM integra projector, yes the shield is curved, but the surface isn't reflective.

the op didn't raise the height of the shield by much, that the output would be significantly decreased that our eyes could detect a difference...
luminous intensity refers to the amount of light detected by the human eye, now of course if he was to reduce the opening to a much smaller size, the luminous intensity of the light would be significantly reduced, due to diffraction of the wave of light.. which results with the wave being bent in certain directions, creating dark spots where a trough and a peak meet.



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The curved shield gives more surface area for the light to pass over, thats why its wider. Its actually a combination of curved shield and a wide bowl. Thats why the Koito and Stanley projectors are generally wider than Hella, Bosch & Valeos, which use more narrow bowls and flat shields. Its also why the Rx330 in the picture gains much more width. It doesnt really have anything to do with reflectiveness of the shield. If shiny shields added intensity, I would think all OEM would be shiny. I think if anything a shiny shield would add glare.
   


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