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| « Re: AWD Wagon, CRV Tranny?? (QuarterMileMaster) | « » 10:24 PM 4/17/2008 |
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I'd be really interested in seeing what it takes to bolt the tranny into the Wagovan as well. I have a B20 in my 90 Wagovan, and I'm looking at pretty much the same thing as you are. I already have the CRV tranny, and all I need to do now is find the time to see what it would take for it to bolt in. You are right that the driveshaft would have to be modded slightly, as the flanges are supposedly slightly different. Chances are the length will be off slightly as well. The gear ratios are mildly different also, but its a miniscule difference. Have a look at this thread for some info on a similar setup (Del Sol). He starts looking at putting the Wagovan rear diff into the car in the last couple pages. http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1708933
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| « Re: AWD Wagon, CRV Tranny?? (Jaker) | « » 12:49 PM 4/18/2008 |
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I didn't do the math but rallysol, the person that started the thread above said that the crv and the wagovan is off by .004. If you are going to keep the viscous coupler, it would not be enough of a difference to have exsesive wear.
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| « Re: AWD Wagon, CRV Tranny?? (ickyhonda) | « » 1:58 PM 4/18/2008 |
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So the only small issue is the gear ratios being slightly different? And the only problem would be that it wears slightly on the viscious coupling? How so? I guess you could do a solid axle but wouldn't that short the life of the drivetrain as a whole since it'd receive more shock?
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| « Re: AWD Wagon, CRV Tranny?? (QuarterMileMaster) | « » 3:27 PM 4/18/2008 |
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It would wear the viscous coupler and if the coupler was eliminated I would imagine that it would shorten the life of the drivetrain and excessively wear the tires. I think I remember reading that after a mile the front tires would have traveled 20 less feet than the front. It does not sound like much but if you have ever had to push a car with a spool you will realize that even going around a slight curve creates binding. 
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Jaker
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| « Re: AWD Wagon, CRV Tranny?? (ickyhonda) | « » 3:54 PM 4/18/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by ickyhonda » | | I think I remember reading that after a mile the front tires would have traveled 20 less feet than the front. |
I'll check the numbers when I get home (OEM rear diff ratios) but based on my memory of the diff ratio in the Wagovan diff, and if the difference really is only .004, then that puts the difference right around 8 feet over 1 mile (5280'), and that's about .15% or less than one percent. I'm home now, and looked at the real numbers: Wagovan rear diff ratio 2.529
CRV rear diff ratio 2.533 Difference is .16% or roughly 1/6th of one percent. That is an insignificant difference in my opinion.
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| « Re: AWD Wagon, CRV Tranny?? (Jaker) | « » 6:35 PM 4/18/2008 |
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Freakin rock on, I'm doing it then!!! Going to keep the viscous coupling though 
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| « Re: AWD Wagon, CRV Tranny?? (Jaker) | « » 9:12 AM 4/20/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Jaker » | I'll check the numbers when I get home (OEM rear diff ratios) but based on my memory of the diff ratio in the Wagovan diff, and if the difference really is only .004, then that puts the difference right around 8 feet over 1 mile (5280'), and that's about .15% or less than one percent. I'm home now, and looked at the real numbers: Wagovan rear diff ratio 2.529
CRV rear diff ratio 2.533 Difference is .16% or roughly 1/6th of one percent. That is an insignificant difference in my opinion.
Modified by Jaker at 3:08 PM 4/18/2008 |
How often do you only drive one mile?
Not trying to start shit but the CRV & wagon rear ends aren't that easy to find. Though I am interested in the prospect of using the wagon rear end with my CRV tranny. Also I do suppose the difference could be eliminated completely with different tire sizes 
Modified by d357r0y at 9:00 AM 4/23/2008
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| « Re: AWD Wagon, CRV Tranny?? (d357r0y) | « » 10:58 PM 4/22/2008 |
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Hey guys,This should work without issue. Keep your stock driveline and only modify the first length of the propeller shaft. If the flanges on the transmission outputs can't be swapped, all you would need is a flange from a CRV propeller shaft. Give the CRV flange, your front propeller shaft and a length measurement to a drive line shop and you're golden. 
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| « Re: AWD Wagon, CRV Tranny?? (RallySol) | « » 6:11 PM 5/6/2008 |
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I'm feeling really risky, anybody know the compatibility if I wanted to use a k-series based CRV AWD tranny?
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| « Re: AWD Wagon, CRV Tranny?? (QuarterMileMaster) | « » 1:10 AM 5/7/2008 |
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Find someone with a FSM and tell the rest of us what you learn
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| « Re: AWD Wagon, CRV Tranny?? (RallySol) | « » 1:34 PM 5/7/2008 |
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I'll see what I can find out of sheer curiosity but I think I'm going to stick with Bseries after weighing the pros/cons of both.
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| « Re: AWD Wagon, CRV Tranny?? (QuarterMileMaster) | « » 8:02 PM 5/9/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by QuarterMileMaster » | | k-series based CRV AWD tranny? |
I've thought of that as well, but I considered doing it as a 6spd AWD with the matching rear end... Heres some info if you haven't already seen it.
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| « Re: AWD Wagon, CRV Tranny?? (88ED8) | « » 11:00 AM 5/10/2008 |
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How would you do that? Where is there a 6spd awd tranny?
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| « Re: AWD Wagon, CRV Tranny?? (QuarterMileMaster) | « » 6:57 PM 5/10/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by QuarterMileMaster » | | How would you do that? Where is there a 6spd awd tranny? |
You take the 6th gear out of the 6spd FWD trans and put it in the AWD trans http://www.elementownersclub.c...25635 ^^ That link has info on how to do it...
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