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| « Re: 1967 S800. going to try to fit S2000 engine (Bozwell) | « » 4:45 PM 4/1/2008 |
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Wow, I don't know what to say. First of all, welcome aboard, glad to see another vintage S-car owner here. I know it's your car, and your money, and you'll do with it what you please, but in my opinion, it's a shame to see an S800 Coupe, with an original S800 engine (perhaps even numbers matching?), get hacked up to fit a "modern" engine. If it's speed and "modern"-ism that you're after, why not just buy a modern car?
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| « Re: 1967 S800. going to try to fit S2000 engine (smithenhiven) | « » 5:01 PM 4/1/2008 |
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had a modern car. had a S2000 for a couple of years , the only problem is that i like to fiddle with my cars 
some of the S800 is fibre glass anyway and it could always be reverted back to the S800 engine but i've done a few miles in it and it does not go fast enough for the way it handles in the form it's in the engine is not the original to the car either
once the mods have all been done then the car will get a body of overhaul to tidy it up
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| « Re: 1967 S800. going to try to fit S2000 engine (Bozwell) | « » 5:30 PM 4/1/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Bozwell » | | had a modern car.

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have a bigger picture of that?
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Bozwell

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| « Re: 1967 S800. going to try to fit S2000 engine (csingham) | « » 6:15 PM 4/1/2008 |
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no, i mainly take low res pictures for the forums
S2000 gearbox

and exhaust manifold
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| « Re: 1967 S800. going to try to fit S2000 engine (csingham) | « » 6:20 PM 4/1/2008 |
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Good luck with the setup bro! Can't wait to see this thing get down and dirty..faster. I'll take that 3rd gen accord front end off you though
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Ztlohmak

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| « Re: 1967 S800. going to try to fit S2000 engine (EFinawesomeman) | « » 5:17 AM 4/2/2008 |
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This is going to be fantastic! I have been doing up a budget for a s2000 conversion in my S600 Coupe, there is so much to consider! If the plans come off the drawing board and into action, I would love to share and bounce ideas with you.
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| « Re: 1967 S800. going to try to fit S2000 engine (Ztlohmak) | « » 10:23 AM 4/2/2008 |
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i LOVE the way the car looks, though. those AO32R's are pimp!!
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Bozwell

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| « Re: 1967 S800. going to try to fit S2000 engine (Ztlohmak) | « » 1:31 PM 4/2/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Ztlohmak » | | This is going to be fantastic! I have been doing up a budget for a s2000 conversion in my S600 Coupe, there is so much to consider! If the plans come off the drawing board and into action, I would love to share and bounce ideas with you. |
will be cool to share ideas and thoughts
i fear the S600 is a lot harder due to the odd rear suspension set up and front drum brakes there are 1970's opel brakes that will fit with a small amout of work, so i have been told . this will then mean that you will use different wheels that are more readily available not sure how you can overcome the rear axle without a lot of modification . the S800 has a 5 link live axle already so making a beefier one to the same dimentions will be a lot easier (the standard one turns the wrong way so this one is completly useless even if it could take the power)
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Wow this should be amazing
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cbstd

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Welcome, I see you've made the journey over from the UK CRX forum.I hate to see an old car that could be restored "hacked up," but I will trust that you will do the job nicely. If it were me, I would graft the S2000 engine and tranny into something that needs the upgrade, like a MGB. Scott
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since the car already appears to be a track car, which already has major non OEM body panels I say go for the S2000 swap! If it were an all original gem, id say leave it stock.
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Bozwell

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| Quote, originally posted by funkmaster » | | since the car already appears to be a track car, which already has major non OEM body panels I say go for the S2000 swap! If it were an all original gem, id say leave it stock. |
thats exactly it if it was totally standard then it it would be a different story (i probably wouldn't have bought it then anyway)
i thought about fitting metal panels back on until i found a front wing for sale for $1200 cbsdt, there would be people saying that an MGB should be left standard so i will never have the suport of everybody but i'm not doing this for anyone else , it's for me to have fun in but it's hardly going to be "hacked up" loads of room for a bigger engine 
these are the sorts of cars i normally work on as i'm a mechanic by trade



 i snuck my S2000 in there
and this is where i work http://www.ckldevelopments.co.uk/ i should be able to do a decent job of this
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Indeed, the chain drive rear end makes things difficult. I need to see a later model chassis against mine to find out exactly how different it is. I was thinking going 4 link suspension. What do you think about the location of the steering column? The extractors surely would hit it? I know in Australia I will have to use a collapsible column to pass safetly regulations.
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| « Re: 1967 S800. going to try to fit S2000 engine (Bozwell) | « » 1:23 AM 4/3/2008 |
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Have you seen the one with the turbocharged Fiat motor in it, I think it is... I'm pretty sure that guy swapped in a Ford 9 Inch rear end that he shortened to fit in the car. Judging by the looks of that rear end, it looks possible to do while keeping the chain drive setup in tact...
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| « Re: 1967 S800. going to try to fit S2000 engine (2ndGenGuy) | « » 4:25 AM 4/3/2008 |
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Oh my.. I love it.. I love every bit of it.. a CARB'D S2K engine? That's sick.. I'll keep it EFI and go ITB's but that's just me.. What a fantastic looking car.. I'm scared to even try looking for one, I can't imagine there are many out there anymore..
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Might as well tube frame the entire chassis while your at it
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Bozwell

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| Quote, originally posted by Ztlohmak » | | Indeed, the chain drive rear end makes things difficult. I need to see a later model chassis against mine to find out exactly how different it is. I was thinking going 4 link suspension. What do you think about the location of the steering column? The extractors surely would hit it? I know in Australia I will have to use a collapsible column to pass safetly regulations. |

S800 is 5 link




i don't envy you trying to fit a live axle, that is going to be a huge job
iv'e got disc brackes at the front that could be enough to stop with if i can get enouh cooling and decent pads. then they could be changed at a later date for beefier ones
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| Quote, originally posted by 2ndGenGuy » | | Have you seen the one with the turbocharged Fiat motor in it, I think it is... I'm pretty sure that guy swapped in a Ford 9 Inch rear end that he shortened to fit in the car. Judging by the looks of that rear end, it looks possible to do while keeping the chain drive setup in tact... |
a ford 9 inch would probably lift the front wheels of the ground for sure! wouldnt mind seeing that! the 8.8 would probably better suited. but the gears are always interchangable. can't wait to see the fabrication work.
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I could be wrong, but it appears that the S800 does not have the chain drive of the earlier S models, which should make mounting a 8.8" (which is plenty for this application) fairly easy.I am convinced, a S2000 engine in this beastie is a good idea. Are you planning on building a roll cage to hold this thing together? Scott
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| Quote, originally posted by cbstd » | | I could be wrong, but it appears that the S800 does not have the chain drive of the earlier S models, which should make mounting a 8.8" (which is plenty for this application) fairly easy. I am convinced, a S2000 engine in this beastie is a good idea. Are you planning on building a roll cage to hold this thing together? Scott |
only the first few S800's were chain drive and drum brakes at the front , then they went onto dicsc and a 5 link rear axle like mine
it should be so easy to copy the dimentions and make a different axle fit my dilemma here is whether to graft on the Honda hubs on to the new axle and keep the original wheels (these wheels are very rare) or use Ford hubs and get front hubs made to accept ford wheels giving me the option of many types of wheel and availability of loads of spare wheels that problem is a little way away yet so i will worry about that when the time comes the chassis on these cars are plenty strong enough so a roll cage will be just for roll over protection. plus once i'm in there is not much room left for much else
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Wow! Thanks for those pictures! I will have to jack up my car and have a closer look.| Quote, originally posted by EFinawesomeman » | a ford 9 inch would probably lift the front wheels of the ground for sure! wouldnt mind seeing that! the 8.8 would probably better suited. but the gears are always interchangable. can't wait to see the fabrication work. |
Sure does, I got a few pictures of it launching at the drags.
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| Quote, originally posted by Bozwell » | my dilemma here is whether to graft on the Honda hubs on to the new axle and keep the original wheels (these wheels are very rare) or use Ford hubs and get front hubs made to accept ford wheels giving me the option of many types of wheel and availability of loads of spare wheels
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Interesting question. Are the orginal wheels going to give you enough of a foot print with all this new power? If not, I would not feel bad about using the Ford hubs to get a bigger footprint. Scott
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| Quote, originally posted by cbstd » | Interesting question. Are the orginal wheels going to give you enough of a foot print with all this new power? If not, I would not feel bad about using the Ford hubs to get a bigger footprint. Scott |
i dont think the footprint will be a problem as the standard weight of a S800 coupe is 1686 lbs (765 kgs) . i don't know what mine weighs stripped out with the fibreglass panels but with the bigger engine not much more than standard i hope
i think having loads of spare wheels for track days will be better than trying to use the rare Honda alloys as they are no longer available
still, plenty of time to think about that this one has a different axle
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