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| « Re: 6 Speed Manual Transmission - 3rd gear slipping NEW INFORMATION??? (Hertz-Accord_2006EX) | « » 8:38 AM 3/31/2008 |
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there is no such issues... your newbiness and your affiliation with another automaker is so apparent, its not funny. it's impossible for a transmission to slip in a single gear. Go away.we need to keep these negative Honda blasts up so everyone can see how low other automakers will go to make Honda appear like it has issues beyond those that are normal and conforming
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| « Re: 6 Speed Manual Transmission - 3rd gear slipping NEW INFORMATION??? (MSchu) | « » 10:47 PM 4/3/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by MSchu » | | there is no such issues... your newbiness and your affiliation with another automaker is so apparent, its not funny. it's impossible for a transmission to slip in a single gear. Go away. we need to keep these negative Honda blasts up so everyone can see how low other automakers will go to make Honda appear like it has issues beyond those that are normal and conforming |
wat?!?! never heard of single gear slipping either but hondas are pretty notorious for grinding in 3rd gear. did you buy the car used?
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There are no service bulletins out on this. Learn how to drive.
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Yes, driver error is the ONLY way the v6 trans can have problems. http://www.v6performance.net/f...64567 
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i bought my v6 used @ 25k, 3rd gear grindage only, blew my clutch and tranny, got a used tranny, and new clutch, and no more 3rd gear grind, everythings good except reverse gear, when i go above 3rpm, it pops out, i do have short shift adapter tho, not sure if that affects itmaybe change manual transmission fluid, heard dat helps (from a previous forum) something bout how the old fluid is bad and new honda fluids are better
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A fluid change and proper levels will help that out a bit, and in some circumstances will sove the issue. in as far as the OP's original post, it may be the fact that the clutch slippage is only noticable in third gear... that would make sense. That would mean that its starting to show its first signs of wear, and time to replace
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The unfortunate truth is, while the autotragic trannies get all the attention for being piss poor, the manual v6 Accord tranny isn't anything to write home about. I hear a lot about them having minor problems. They don't really fail, but a lot pop out of gears etc. and the problem is hard to duplicate at the stealership, where they probably drive it unlike the way you tell them the problem occurs in on purpose, or lie to you altogether.
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I am sure what is happening is that the notchiness of the transmission is giving some false engagement... If you careful, or more precisely purposeful, you get better action/engagement
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| Quote, originally posted by MSchu » | | I am sure what is happening is that the notchiness of the transmission is giving some false engagement... If you careful, or more precisely purposeful, you get better action/engagement |
Are you talking about the same thing as when your trans feels like it's in reverse, until you let the clutch out and it grinds/pops out? I've heard these cable shifted trans are pretty notchy, but don't really know what that feels like.
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| « Re: 6 Speed Manual Transmission - 3rd gear slipping NEW INFORMATION??? (Hertz-Accord_2006EX) | « » 10:25 AM 4/9/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Hertz-Accord_2006EX » | | Hello, I've been looking around the net to see if there has been anything done to fix this problem, of the 3rd gear shifting, yet by Honda. Does anybody know about any progress?? |
Tell us a little more about what is happening. I gather than you have a 2006 six cylinder six speed. Is that right?Occasionally, you will find a car with a slightly less than optimal cable adjustment that will cause third gear not to fully engage. You'll think it's in gear, but when you apply some torque in that gear, it'll pop out. If you are engaged in especially enthusiastic driving or you're on the track, then this can have unfortunate consequences. If you feel it's the cable adjustment that is causing an issue, then it is easy to fix. Another thing we have to face is that occasionally we do not have transmissions with the very strongest synchronisers. It's important to keep up with the recommended fluid changes, and it's important to use the most recent release of Honda MTF, the one with the added friction modifiers.
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| « Re: 6 Speed Manual Transmission - 3rd gear slipping NEW INFORMATION??? (George Knighton) | « » 11:43 AM 4/9/2008 |
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absolutely... great points and perfectly stated
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honda just released the TSB 08-020 for the 3rd gear issue..[....] http://automotivetech.org/at/6spdtsb.pdf
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how do u know the third gear is slipping? because u rev it and srop the clutch in it? because the dual stage flywheel allows the clutch to slip itself so u dont [freak] up ur syncros
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| Quote, originally posted by stock99si » | | how do u know the third gear is slipping? because u rev it and srop the clutch in it? because the dual stage flywheel allows the clutch to slip itself so u dont [freak] up ur syncros |
Does the issue have anything to do with slipping?I thought it had to do with popping out of gear when put under torque, and/or with grinding because of overpowering the synchro.
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wait , so does this mean there is a recall for all affected vehicels??? cause if there is, IMMA BRING IN MY CAR RIGHT AWAYeven tho i don't really get 3rd gear grinding lol but i hate the honda dealerships so i can get back at them and get an even fresher tranny is this a recall, because it says even "vehicles without warranty or past it" are eligible for goodwill service, but idk what that means
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| Quote, originally posted by ch0baca » | is this a recall, because it says even "vehicles without warranty or past it" are eligible for goodwill service, but idk what that means |
As far as I know that's what it means, but if your transmission isn't bad, then why even bother?
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| Quote, originally posted by ch0baca » | | wait , so does this mean there is a recall for all affected vehicels??? cause if there is, IMMA BRING IN MY CAR RIGHT AWAY even tho i don't really get 3rd gear grinding lol but i hate the honda dealerships so i can get back at them and get an even fresher tranny is this a recall, because it says even "vehicles without warranty or past it" are eligible for goodwill service, but idk what that means |
If it were a recall it would say "Recall" on it and you would receive a notification from Honda for it. This is just a TSB to let the technicians and advisers know that there are problems and that they may be difficult to duplicate. Goodwill means that at the discretion of either AHM or the local dealers District Parts and Service Manager Honda may in some cases opt to pay for all or part of the repair on a vehicle that is out of warranty. If the concern can be duplicated And I don't know who you think you would be screwing. If for some reason the dealer did make a repair Honda pays the bill not the dealership. The only person that gets screwed is the tech that has to do the job because it would be done for warranty time which does not pay well at all. Pulling the trannies on the 6-6 cars is something of a bitch to do.
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actually, under warranty repairs, the dealerships still get paid from Honda so it doesn't screw anyone over nor the technicians, they're just doing their job and still getting paid the same amount for the same amount of time
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| Quote, originally posted by ch0baca » |
even tho i don't really get 3rd gear grinding lol but i hate the honda dealerships so i can get back at them and get an even fresher tranny |
This does not really make sense to me. The first thing they're going to do is drive the car. If they cannot duplicate the issue, they might ask you to drive the car while they ride along to see if you can duplicate the issue.If you don't need this then you should not trouble people to try to get the repair. At high volume dealerships, time is definitely at a premium and the people who would have to make the decision about whether or not you truly have this issue are not people who are going to be happy you wasted an hour and a half making them drive around looking for something that is not there. It's not the fair minded thing to do, and you are throwing Honda's dedication to quality and service back in their faces by abusing their dedication. | Quote, originally posted by ch0baca » | | actually, under warranty repairs, the dealerships still get paid from Honda so it doesn't screw anyone over nor the technicians, they're just doing their job and still getting paid the same amount for the same amount of time |
They do not get paid the same amount of money they'd get paid for regular maintenance and repair. | Quote, originally posted by someone else » | | The only person that gets screwed is the tech that has to do the job because it would be done for warranty time which does not pay well at all. Pulling the trannies on the 6-6 cars is something of a bitch to do. |
The economy has taken such a turn that people are not doing repairs that are elective, and they appear to be skipping regular maintenance that they think they can do without.Maybe it won't be long before the dealerships and the technicians are openly grateful for the fact that some money is better than no money. :-)
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actually, recently, i just noticed the issue since the weather is gettting so much warmer now.my clutch stopped making this high pitch sound, but my tranny from 2nd to 3rd gear is exactly what the problem above suggests when i'm in vtec, going from 2nd to 3rd gear, as the clutch is down and i shift into 3rd gear, there is grinding even when the clutch is all the way down, even when i try very hard to cleanly shift it and slowly it still grinds, this only happens when in vtec though and never when driving normally it's pissing me off and i think it could be my transmission fluid, all dem flakes, but i really should bring it into honda because i can duplicate the error INSTANTLY
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| Quote, originally posted by ch0baca » | | this only happens when in vtec though |
As our cars age, more and more people are going to be noticing this, I fear. Luckily for Honda, the majority of Accord users (even the six cylinder, six speed users) are not going to be shifting into 3rd over 5 grand.Something that has been on my mind recently is whether or not there is an Acura TSB similar to the Honda TSB. After all, a six speed managing 300 HP could be having even more trouble than our six speeds managing 250 HP.
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Sounds exactly like a bad synchro to me. Damn it, why can't Honda engineer their trannys anywhere near as well as their engines?
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| Quote, originally posted by George Knighton » |
After all, a six speed managing 300 HP could be having even more trouble than our six speeds managing 250 HP. |
What about the ones managing 240 hp 
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