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Jim Truett




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It's a 1999 V6 Acura CL tranny, but the case and internals are pretty much identical to the Accord V6. It's basically just like a constant mesh manual tranny with hydraulic clutch packs to select the gears. This transmission started slipping badly on a 2nd and 3rd shift. The 2nd gear clutches were worn down to the adhesive that bonds the friction material to the clutch plate. Normal thickness was .079", and these measured in at .055-.050". The standard free play in the clutch packs is between .015"-.045". With six discs worn between .024"-.029", that combined for about .160" total free play, and made the shifts very harsh.

With the end cover removed:

With the mid case removed:

1/2 clutch drum with clutches removed:

Worn 2nd gear clutches:

Installation of new friction and steel:




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This is going right into the FAQ. This is very nice.

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Very brave

Excellent post though



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How many miles were on that?



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How many miles were on that?

111,561. I would not have gotten much more out of 2nd gear.



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hey did you pull the internal mesh filter when you put that pos back together?



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hey did you pull the internal mesh filter when you put that pos back together?

I checked it out. It was suprisingly clean. It's not much of a "filter".



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Very brave

lol... something with transmission gears and the way they have to be assembled... few people would want to work on that.



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GL with that man I had a 98 LX V6 coupe that ate 3 transmissions within 11K miles........



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111k is the life I'd expect to see out of an auto tranny in a Ford, but not a Honda. That's disappointing.

Cool pics though. I would personally be terrified about taking an auto apart. Those babys are complicated.



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GL with that man I had a 98 LX V6 coupe that ate 3 transmissions within 11K miles........

This is the reason I chose to rebuild it myself. When you have someone else do it, you don't know how competent they are. Also, when you get a reman from Honda, there is no way to tell what the original failure was.

My failure was from the previous owner not changing the fluid per the service guidelines.



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so that was it???? Just dropped in some new 2nd gear discs and steels and slapped 'er back together?

Any other parts that you replaced/noticed/would recommend replacing?

I worked for Honda, but we never open trans cases. Just put the onld one back in the box the new one came from :D



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did you inspect the differential bearings.....those things are crappy as can be.......

I am suprised that the internal filter was clean but the 2nd gear clutch pack was toasted......



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Is it only the V6 automatics that have this kind of trouble? Got a friend looking for a 5th-6th generation automatic Accord for his wife. Want to let him know what to avoid.



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mainly it's the 98-02 V6 auto's IIRC.

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Avoid the TL's and CL's as well.



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