EJ8 itb'd 12:1 ls/vtec build up (56k die) - Honda-Tech

killerpenguin21 · 12-20-2007, 09:02 PM

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UPDATES: Page 3,4

UPDATE: 5/16/08 - 196whp 140wtq

well ive been working on this for a year and a half now, and never started a thread, so i thought i would share.

it all started in August of 2006, when i had the idea to build a motor since it was the one piece of car work i had never ventured in to. so obviously a honda was the choice for low cost of parts and TONS of info.

so i spent a good 2 months planning and researching and decided on an ls/vtec build, and picked up a used ls block,crank,oil pan from a friend for 100 bucks.

he didnt have the main caps, so i grabbed a gsr setup so i had the girdle.

then i snagged some p30 pistons/rods for 30 bucks on ebay

block got painted a nice black and a fresh hone

p30's got pressed onto some shot peened ls rods and threw in the arp rod bolts

and then september came and i left for school with it sitting like this for storage

then in late september, i totalled my car, and needed another asap, and surfed cragslist for hondas so i would have something to put my motor in eventually (the plan had been to just find a shell eventually), and i came across a 97 civic ex with some nice carbon fiber altezzas on it and 180k miles for $2000, and i snagged it up. (continue to next post)

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killerpenguin21 · 12-20-2007, 09:02 PM

so after a promise to my parents that this car would stay stock, these showed up at my house at school.

so i threw them on asap obviously along with some blox lower control arms so i didnt have to mess with the probably rusted bolts.

said bye bye to these in favor of a set of 99-00 red/whites

now the fun really began, since i had a very well paying job at the time
exhaust showed up

then with the money i got from parting out my wrecked car, i accumulated a huge pile of parts

and then hit a roadblock, i could not for the life of me find a gsr head. but finally found someone parting out a wrecked gsr, and got the complete head and boy do i mean complete (dizzy, manifold etc) for a steal

i came home for winter break that year and went to work on the head, removed the stock valvetrain and put in my skunk2 goods and tapped/plugged the oil galley.

skunk stuff in

got some work done on the block too

hmmm this doesnt look right tho....

shit, when i found i needed to replace the crank i got with my block, i got sold a b16 crank.....

killerpenguin21 · 12-20-2007, 09:03 PM

unfortunately i fully assembled the block with the wrong crank which would have given me about 6:1 compression or something rediculous like that

this is not me, just my boy that was helping me

disassembled everything and compared the two cranks, im sure you can see the difference in the counterweights.

then i picked up a set of wheels, but the tires were al ittle too skinny but i had to throw em on just to check em out.

and the ass end

picked up a jdm sh!t sir lip

picked up a skunk2 shortshifter and weighted knob

and then i came home for the summer for the real work to begin.

found a correct ls crank, and reassembled the motor and it was looking pretty

then i had one hell of a friggin time finding a b series tranny. but through patience found a gsr trans from an 01 gsr with only 50k on it for yet another steal.

here you can see the trans and a peak at my #1 of 300 bronze innovative mounts

killerpenguin21 · 12-20-2007, 09:04 PM

it finally came time to do my first swap...with the help of my dad.

all done in like 6 hours

almost there

got it up and running without too many snags, but it was already july.

so this is where i was exactly 1 year after i began this whole deal.

i got just about 1k miles on the car all on a basemap, since i had no money left for a tune and it was time to go back to school, and i had missed my goal of making honda day.

so that brings up to this past september...
i picked up a set of rc370's and a professional products 70mm tb for nice prices as usual, but then one day in surfing HT i ran across a rediculous deal on a set of twm 50mm itb's which happened to be ported and polished even, and come with rc 440's

so over thanksgiving day break i had to get them on the motor

so thats where we are at this point with whats actually done. now heres where its going.

i traded my stock single cam for rear disc and 100 bucks.

then i got some fresh rotors to go on em and some hawk hps street pads, and hps race for the front.

and heres the pile of parts sitting in my room at the moment to go on in the next month while im home

motul rbf600
stainless brake lines made for the conversion, and an ss clutch line
NGK blues
remote battery terminals
walbro 255
earls fittings and lines to redo the fuel lines and aid in the clean look to come with the wire tuck.

then, i finally found the header i had been searching for for very very long. an an-r street compact with a burns merge collector. again as usual rediculous deal. it just needs some new heat coating.

i will be going for a tune either over spring break or as soon as i get home for the summer. will be switching from crome over to neptune so we can do a tps based tune to run the itb's.

so thats where its at, i have a few things up my sleeve, and a few more goodies on the list before this car is done. its goal is a serious street car with the ability to go on the track with no issue.

so lemme know what you think, any and all comments are welcome.

sup gurl · 12-20-2007, 09:06 PM

expletivein nice build up!

killerpenguin21 · 12-20-2007, 09:07 PM

so the motor as of now is

b18b block
shotpeened ls rods
p30 pistons
acl bearings
gsr head
skunk2 pro1 cams
skunk2 valve springs and retainers
50mm TWM itb's (ported) with rc440 injectors
anr street compact header with merge collector.

tenedor sports · 12-20-2007, 09:08 PM

wow!

mr.coupe · 12-20-2007, 09:10 PM

hells yeah!

.dave · 12-20-2007, 09:10 PM

Nice job so far.

teeho · 12-20-2007, 09:11 PM

dc5 jared · 12-20-2007, 09:12 PM

niccceee

killerpenguin21 · 12-20-2007, 09:12 PM

oh and i think i need to give alotta props here to...
my dad
my boys joe, ryan, and fred
my now EX-gf lol

guys on here...
integratype-r for bein an awesome seller and helpful guy
j-ktuning
and anyone else that ive bought from and/or has helped me out along the way.

vendors that never let me down

weaksauce
icb (jdmland.com)
jhpusa
camp1320
ebay

im sure there are others but these guys are the shit.

hoping for 200whp with no headwork.

Modified by killerpenguin21 at 3:01 PM 12/21/2007

iheartintegras · 12-20-2007, 09:18 PM

lookin good man

B16B_coupe · 12-20-2007, 09:18 PM

cool build dude!! keep it up!!

sikciv666 · 12-20-2007, 09:21 PM

to think man u wannted to get rid of it..Im feelin those itbs...hows it driving with those in the cold?

.1type. · 12-20-2007, 09:25 PM

nice build

killerpenguin21 · 12-20-2007, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sikciv666

to think man u wannted to get rid of it..Im feelin those itbs...hows it driving with those in the cold?

i wanted to get rid of it cuz i was afraid this would happen lol.

i havent had it running since i got the itb's, had issues getting a basemap, and have to reco the fuel lines since the twm rail needs an fittings.

caustic. · 12-20-2007, 09:33 PM

great work!

!!!FISHER!!! · 12-20-2007, 10:06 PM

indeed great work

HondamanXxX · 12-20-2007, 10:06 PM

Love for you and the ride

Odom · 12-20-2007, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sup gurl

expletivein nice build up!

RenzoDaPlayboi · 12-20-2007, 10:33 PM

damn nice build up...quality build...

12-20-2007, 09:02 PM	#2
killerpenguin21 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: where cars dont get stolen, NY Posts: 2,312	Re: EJ8 itb'd 12:1 ls/vtec build up (killerpenguin21) so after a promise to my parents that this car would stay stock, these showed up at my house at school. so i threw them on asap obviously along with some blox lower control arms so i didnt have to mess with the probably rusted bolts. said bye bye to these in favor of a set of 99-00 red/whites now the fun really began, since i had a very well paying job at the time exhaust showed up then with the money i got from parting out my wrecked car, i accumulated a huge pile of parts and then hit a roadblock, i could not for the life of me find a gsr head. but finally found someone parting out a wrecked gsr, and got the complete head and boy do i mean complete (dizzy, manifold etc) for a steal i came home for winter break that year and went to work on the head, removed the stock valvetrain and put in my skunk2 goods and tapped/plugged the oil galley. skunk stuff in got some work done on the block too hmmm this doesnt look right tho.... shit, when i found i needed to replace the crank i got with my block, i got sold a b16 crank..... __________________ 14.79 @ 96.4mph 2.5 60ft...ouch My build Thread http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2180817 \|\|InnovativeMotorWorks\|\|

12-20-2007, 09:03 PM	#3
killerpenguin21 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: where cars dont get stolen, NY Posts: 2,312	Re: EJ8 itb'd 12:1 ls/vtec build up (killerpenguin21) unfortunately i fully assembled the block with the wrong crank which would have given me about 6:1 compression or something rediculous like that this is not me, just my boy that was helping me disassembled everything and compared the two cranks, im sure you can see the difference in the counterweights. then i picked up a set of wheels, but the tires were al ittle too skinny but i had to throw em on just to check em out. and the ass end picked up a jdm sh!t sir lip picked up a skunk2 shortshifter and weighted knob and then i came home for the summer for the real work to begin. found a correct ls crank, and reassembled the motor and it was looking pretty then i had one hell of a friggin time finding a b series tranny. but through patience found a gsr trans from an 01 gsr with only 50k on it for yet another steal. here you can see the trans and a peak at my #1 of 300 bronze innovative mounts __________________ 14.79 @ 96.4mph 2.5 60ft...ouch My build Thread http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2180817 \|\|InnovativeMotorWorks\|\|

12-20-2007, 09:04 PM	#4
killerpenguin21 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: where cars dont get stolen, NY Posts: 2,312	Re: EJ8 itb'd 12:1 ls/vtec build up (killerpenguin21) it finally came time to do my first swap...with the help of my dad. all done in like 6 hours almost there got it up and running without too many snags, but it was already july. so this is where i was exactly 1 year after i began this whole deal. i got just about 1k miles on the car all on a basemap, since i had no money left for a tune and it was time to go back to school, and i had missed my goal of making honda day. so that brings up to this past september... i picked up a set of rc370's and a professional products 70mm tb for nice prices as usual, but then one day in surfing HT i ran across a rediculous deal on a set of twm 50mm itb's which happened to be ported and polished even, and come with rc 440's so over thanksgiving day break i had to get them on the motor so thats where we are at this point with whats actually done. now heres where its going. i traded my stock single cam for rear disc and 100 bucks. then i got some fresh rotors to go on em and some hawk hps street pads, and hps race for the front. and heres the pile of parts sitting in my room at the moment to go on in the next month while im home motul rbf600 stainless brake lines made for the conversion, and an ss clutch line NGK blues remote battery terminals walbro 255 earls fittings and lines to redo the fuel lines and aid in the clean look to come with the wire tuck. then, i finally found the header i had been searching for for very very long. an an-r street compact with a burns merge collector. again as usual rediculous deal. it just needs some new heat coating. i will be going for a tune either over spring break or as soon as i get home for the summer. will be switching from crome over to neptune so we can do a tps based tune to run the itb's. so thats where its at, i have a few things up my sleeve, and a few more goodies on the list before this car is done. its goal is a serious street car with the ability to go on the track with no issue. so lemme know what you think, any and all comments are welcome. __________________ 14.79 @ 96.4mph 2.5 60ft...ouch My build Thread http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2180817 \|\|InnovativeMotorWorks\|\|

12-20-2007, 09:06 PM	#5
sup gurl I'm really a MAAANNNN bayybay! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: zeroforum/26 Posts: 7,197	expletivein nice build up! __________________ FT: 2006 Mazda 3 5-Door

12-20-2007, 09:07 PM	#6
killerpenguin21 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: where cars dont get stolen, NY Posts: 2,312	Re: EJ8 itb'd 12:1 ls/vtec build up (killerpenguin21) so the motor as of now is b18b block shotpeened ls rods p30 pistons acl bearings gsr head skunk2 pro1 cams skunk2 valve springs and retainers 50mm TWM itb's (ported) with rc440 injectors anr street compact header with merge collector. __________________ 14.79 @ 96.4mph 2.5 60ft...ouch My build Thread http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2180817 \|\|InnovativeMotorWorks\|\|

12-20-2007, 09:02 PM	#1
killerpenguin21 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: where cars dont get stolen, NY Posts: 2,312	EJ8 itb'd 12:1 ls/vtec build up (56k die) PICTURES: Page 1,3,4 UPDATES: Page 3,4 UPDATE: 5/16/08 - 196whp 140wtq well ive been working on this for a year and a half now, and never started a thread, so i thought i would share. it all started in August of 2006, when i had the idea to build a motor since it was the one piece of car work i had never ventured in to. so obviously a honda was the choice for low cost of parts and TONS of info. so i spent a good 2 months planning and researching and decided on an ls/vtec build, and picked up a used ls block,crank,oil pan from a friend for 100 bucks. he didnt have the main caps, so i grabbed a gsr setup so i had the girdle. then i snagged some p30 pistons/rods for 30 bucks on ebay block got painted a nice black and a fresh hone p30's got pressed onto some shot peened ls rods and threw in the arp rod bolts and then september came and i left for school with it sitting like this for storage then in late september, i totalled my car, and needed another asap, and surfed cragslist for hondas so i would have something to put my motor in eventually (the plan had been to just find a shell eventually), and i came across a 97 civic ex with some nice carbon fiber altezzas on it and 180k miles for $2000, and i snagged it up. (continue to next post) Modified by killerpenguin21 at 7:06 PM 12/30/2007 Modified by killerpenguin21 at 7:06 PM 12/30/2007 Modified by killerpenguin21 at 8:50 PM 1/1/2008 Modified by killerpenguin21 at 10:17 PM 1/2/2008 Modified by killerpenguin21 at 1:37 AM 5/17/2008 Modified by killerpenguin21 at 9:11 PM 8/30/2008 Modified by killerpenguin21 at 11:35 PM 10/10/2008 __________________ 14.79 @ 96.4mph 2.5 60ft...ouch My build Thread http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2180817 \|\|InnovativeMotorWorks\|\|

12-20-2007, 09:10 PM	#8
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12-20-2007, 09:10 PM	#9
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12-20-2007, 09:21 PM	#15
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12-20-2007, 09:25 PM	#16
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12-20-2007, 09:33 PM	#18
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12-20-2007, 10:33 PM	#22
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