SCAMMER: JohnnieChimpo JRSC parts - Honda-Tech

MADEINIRAQ · 11-15-2007, 03:42 AM

Over the last 5 years or so I've bought/sold on HT without a hitch. This is the first time I felt I was mislead and now I'm being ignored.

Story: Sold my LHT intercooled JRSC manifold (never used since LHT mod), Ported S-tube and a brand new Ford Racing cobra intercooler pump.

I bought the manifold from STREETWERKZ for $800 and the pump for $100 on ebay.
$900 total.

JohnnieChimpo claimed he had worked out a deal with STREETWERKZ but I ended up buying it first. Being nice I gave JohnnieChimpo the same "deal" that STREETWERKZ gave him.

Deal was he pays $750 plus a stock B16 and GSR JRSC manifolds. This deal is most likely a better deal than he was getting from STREETWERKZ and I didn't care because I really needed to move these parts.

I send out my stuff, get paid... Then a couple weeks or so later (this time doesn't bother me, it was expected) when he swaps the manifold he sends me the stock manifolds.

I open the box and realize both manifolds are cracked badly. The B16 manifold has one huge crack. The GSR manifold has a crack that was already welded back up and then there is a new crack that needs welded.

Why I'm pissed: I was NEVER told that the manifolds were cracked. I guess its somewhat my fault for not asking but it is obviously something you SHOULD tell someone that the parts they are getting are ****ed up and need repaired.

I got the manifolds last week and PM'd JohnnieChimpo right away telling him I want a refund because the manifolds are worth nothing.

He has not replied to any of my PMs. He has been on HT since then, according to his profile he posted yesterday.. http://www.hondamarketplace.co...64333

R.A.T. · 11-15-2007, 10:08 AM

That sux! I thought we were all cool in the JRSC thread ready to help each other out... I guess we still have to be carefull who we deal with.

I hope you can work things out!

jbs · 11-15-2007, 01:03 PM

Sorry to hear that 2x. 1, b/c he was dishonest & 2, I wanted that intercooler.

JohnnieChimpo · 11-15-2007, 03:12 PM

LOL, I gotta say I saw this coming before a deal was even worked out.

Why don't you tell everyone the real story?

I made a deal with Streetwerkz for $700 plus one of my manifolds, but you bought the whole kit from him blower and all.

I offered the same deal to you after you bought the kit and didn't use it.

You tried and tried to resell the whole kit for more than you paid for it and after a month or two you finally gave up.

I offered to buy just the manifold.

You wanted $900 plus both my manifolds which means you would have made $200 plus picked up a second manifold which I paid $100 for.

I offered you a little more, but you still were way off. I finally paid more than I could have bought it from Streetwerkz plus a second manifold for your "new" Cobra pump, which I later found on eBay for $89 all day long.

You advertised your kit as "100% complete, not the way you received it". Which says to me you were pissy about the way you bought it from Streetworkz.

When I got it, it was missing the LHT manifold plugs. I pointed that out, and you were like, "sorry", no offer of a refund from you.

You tried to sell me other fittings you bought from Summit or Jegs for what you paid (Summit's price + shipping) + shipping to me. Like I'm dumb enough to pay your shipping plus mine. Why wouldn't I just buy them straight from Summit myself for less?

Anyhow, "your" manifold was nice since it came directly from LHT but it was scratched on the top of the polished ends. I never bitched because I knew it wouldn't get me anywhere and it doesn't affect performance.

You said your manifold came with a custom spacer you made to clear the cores for the air temp, which was a sensor you drilled a hole through and snapped the end off of. (read Ghetto Junk that would have leaked horribly)

The entire way through this deal you've been trying to make money off me or anyone else not break even. You tried to sell me this kit for what one costs from LHT plus another of my manifolds. If I'd have bought this from LHT I would have received everything and it wouldn't have been scratched, plus I would have been dealing with a shop who has a reputation and would have stood behind their stuff. Instead I bought it 2nd hand for nearly what one costs new with no "warranty" from LHT.

I paid $100 for that manifold and it is in the same condition as the one that came with my B16 JRSC kit I bought, which means it is in average condition, mildly cracked, but repaired, which I imagine most of the stress cracked manifolds out there being sold aren't welded.

The manifolds that I sent don't look pretty, because they are used, but they work 100%. Plus the crack in the one manifold isn't the whole way through and it is on the bottom where the blower covers it. The other cracks are welded shut and are on the firewall side where you'd have to use a mirror to see the welds.

You never asked for pics, you never asked what condition they were in, you assumed they were brand new but I was selling them to you for ~$100 each, even though they cost $270 + shipping new and you didn't even pay shipping. Again assuming I'm stupid or something.

I told you the GSR one was in use so you know it works. I don't think you received anything that doesn't have value or isn't useful. If I needed a manifold I would buy and use those for $100, so I don't see the problem.

All along you've been trying to make $200 more on this LHT kit than you paid for it and I wouldn't bite. This post is just your latest attempt to bully me out of the $200 you couldn't make off of me on the front end of this deal.

I'm sorry you are upset that everything isn't as pretty as you expected it to be but everything works 100%.

You were not scammed, your expectations were just way too high, like your prices.

SD_Lurker · 11-15-2007, 03:26 PM

Johnnie you keep saying you WERE going to get the kit from Street but you didn't. Therefore Iraq made the deal and bought it himself which means street no longer owns it. He has the right to sell it for whatever price he wants, regardless what he paid for it. So the fact that you keep saying well I was going to get it from street for this much is irrelevant since its no longer his. Despite him not asking you if the manifolds were jacked up you should have been a good seller, trader and notified him of there issues. It seems that you were butt hurt about his price and figured screw it I will give him this and 2 ****ed up manifolds. If that were you, would you have been happy? what happens when you buy a car only to recieve and find out that its been crashed and you ask the seller and he tells you "you didn't ask so I didn't think it mattered". use your better judgement. seems like Irag got the shit end of this deal because you were butt hurt all along that he had the money to buy it from street to begin with. also if you could have got the kit from LHT for the same price you should have done it. Your full of shit and thats the bottom line.

MADEINIRAQ · 11-15-2007, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnieChimpo

LOL, I gotta say I saw this coming before a deal was even worked out.

Why don't you tell everyone the real story?

I made a deal with Streetwerkz for $700 plus one of my manifolds, but you bought the whole kit from him blower and all.

I offered the same deal to you after you bought the kit and didn't use it.

You tried and tried to resell the whole kit for more than you paid for it and after a month or two you finally gave up.
I had more money into the kit at that point
I offered to buy just the manifold.

You wanted $900 plus both my manifolds which means you would have made $200 plus picked up a second manifold which I paid $100 for.

I offered you a little more, but you still were way off. I finally paid more than I could have bought it from Streetwerkz plus a second manifold for your "new" Cobra pump, which I later found on eBay for $89 all day long.
my "new" pump was new. of course you later found it on ebay.. everything can be later found on ebay cheaper
You advertised your kit as "100% complete, not the way you received it". Which says to me you were pissy about the way you bought it from Streetworkz.
Not necessarily pissy but it is just that. It needed repaired when I got it(I MENTIONED THAT IN MY FOR SALE THREAD) and it needed 2 brackets that I bought new from Moss motors
When I got it, it was missing the LHT manifold plugs. I pointed that out, and you were like, "sorry", no offer of a refund from you.
I said sorry I forgot all about the plugs. I never had plugs in the first place
You tried to sell me other fittings you bought from Summit or Jegs for what you paid (Summit's price + shipping) + shipping to me. Like I'm dumb enough to pay your shipping plus mine. Why wouldn't I just buy them straight from Summit myself for less?Summit charges like $10 handling on all small orders. I bought them by them selves and was giving them to you for less than I paid. I didn't sell them to you because they were the wrong size. Summit had them listed on their site wrong.

Anyhow, "your" manifold was nice since it came directly from LHT but it was scratched on the top of the polished ends. I never bitched because I knew it wouldn't get me anywhere and it doesn't affect performance.
You knew the manifold has passed hands. What would you have bitched about. Want me to polish it back up for you. It ages and gets dull.
You said your manifold came with a custom spacer you made to clear the cores for the air temp, which was a sensor you drilled a hole through and snapped the end off of. (read Ghetto Junk that would have leaked horribly)
It actually wasn't drilled. If you saw off one end, my blade cut in and left a gouge. Which it did have a good and a bad side, one side for the manifold and one side not to worry about. You saw off one end and the center slides right out and should fit perfectly over the stock sensor since it is the stock sensor
The entire way through this deal you've been trying to make money off me or anyone else not break even.
That was not my intention but you seem to have had it planned all along that you would off both your cracked manifolds for an LHT
You tried to sell me this kit for what one costs from LHT plus another of my manifolds. If I'd have bought this from LHT I would have received everything and it wouldn't have been scratched, plus I would have been dealing with a shop who has a reputation and would have stood behind their stuff. Instead I bought it 2nd hand for nearly what one costs new with no "warranty" from LHT.

I paid $100 for that manifold and it is in the same condition as the one that came with my B16 JRSC kit I bought, which means it is in average condition, mildly cracked, but repaired, which I imagine most of the stress cracked manifolds out there being sold aren't welded.
I've had a JRSC and seen a few other kits, I've never seen a cracked one in person. Didn't realize it was that common to have 2 of them show up when I least expected it.
The manifolds that I sent don't look pretty, because they are used, but they work 100%. Cracked does not mean works 100% its cracked. broken, flange is not flatPlus the crack in the one manifold isn't the whole way through and it is on the bottom where the blower covers it. The other cracks are welded shut and are on the firewall side where you'd have to use a mirror to see the welds.

You never asked for pics, you never asked what condition they were in, you assumed they were brand new I thought they were used, dirty, scratched. NOT CRACKEDbut I was selling them to you for ~$100 each, even though they cost $270 + shipping new and you didn't even pay shipping. Again assuming I'm stupid or something.
The manifold is 274.95 shipped I just bought one

I told you the GSR one was in use so you know it works. I don't think you received anything that doesn't have value or isn't useful. If I needed a manifold I would buy and use those for $100, so I don't see the problem.

you said my IAT sensor was "(read Ghetto Junk that would have leaked horribly)" but here you talk about buying cracked manifolds to use. Wouldn't you just take the JRSC off rather than used broken stuff?

All along you've been trying to make $200 more on this LHT kit than you paid for it and I wouldn't bite. This post is just your latest attempt to bully me out of the $200 you couldn't make off of me on the front end of this deal.

you withheld information (cracked manifolds) I paid $100 each for manifold that would need atleast that much in labor each to be fixed if it were even worth while to do so.

I'm sorry you are upset that everything isn't as pretty as you expected it to be but everything works 100%.

Cracked is not 100% maybe 95.. 96. not 100.
You were not scammed, your expectations were just way too high, like your prices.

MADEINIRAQ · 11-15-2007, 03:50 PM

And why were you ignoring me so I had to make this thread?

Thats just like every other scammer.

JohnnieChimpo · 11-16-2007, 06:43 AM

Ignoring you?!?!

Again LOL !!

I worked 70hrs per week for the last two weeks, I'm sorry I don't sit on Honda Tech all day long trying to protect my internet rep as if I care what anyone on here thinks of me.

Back to your issues and the other guy's comment.

"I'm just 'butt hurt' because he had the money and I didn't?"

First of all where the hell were you raised that you use the phrase "butt hurt" and for that matter why the hell do you use it so often? Don't you own a thesaurus? Second, it's you're full of shit as in you are full of shit. Your is a different word. Third received is ei. I before E except after C .....
Forth, I have bought wrecked cars that were fixed. As long as they work 100% and you can't see the damage without using a mirror who cares? I also don't buy wrecked cars at the same price I can buy a new one from the dealership for. You get them for a killer deal. Lastly I had plenty of money when I needed it. Iraq called dibs on it but hadn't sent the funds yet. Street wouldn't let me buy it right away since dibs were called.

So do me a favor, keep your nose out of my business and go back to raising cattle as I assume you were raised in a barn with your spelling and grammar.

JohnnieChimpo · 11-16-2007, 07:41 AM

A scammer?!?! What's my scam, paying you more than you bought something for plus giving you two 100% functional manifolds?

I also bought your "Hondata" gasket, which wasn't a Hondata after all, it was a cheep knock off which I again paid more than you paid for it.

I bought your LS/VTEC dowels for $15 more than I could have bought them from anywhere else.

I paid $50 for shipping on one manifold from you to me and when I sent you two manifolds it cost me $15.

What else?

100% functional mean you can use it without any problems. A crack that isn't even the whole way through and doesn't leak any air is a blemish, it in no way hurts power/idle/MPG/....anything.

The Cobra pump is/has been on eBay for months and is probably where you got yours.

The manifold wasn't dull, it was scratched/gouged but it is still 100% functional so I didn't care, even though it is on top and anyone I might let under my hood would see it, unlike the bead of weld which is 5 inches from the fire wall and would take a contortionist to see it once mounted. The cracked manifold is cracked on the bottom and is hidden once the blower is mounted.

My intention wasn't to "unload" my manifolds. I offered you one manifold but you HAD TO HAVE both manifolds and wouldn't accept just one. Then once you sold JRSC to a B16 guy you wanted me to pay you $90 and keep the GSR manifold.

You paid $275 for a new one and you thought a $100 used one would be in exactly the condition as your new virgin one except cleaner? I'd say that was pretty dumb of you but I figure you thought I was the stupid one and you were making a killer deal at my expense.

Yeah a "custom spacer" made from a sensor you broke in half is ghetto rigging. It'll kinda work till I start the car and it leaks like hell. The crack in the one manifold and welds on the other manifold don't affect anything. If you would mount them up you'd see they both work perfectly and are easily worth $100.

I didn't withhold anything. I saw the crack when I first installed the kit and like you I was a little put off by it but I mounted the kit and couldn't see it anymore and the car ran fine and I forgot about it. I only saw the crack again when I took it apart to send to you, by that point you had overcharged me, shorted me parts, tried to rip me off with horrible trades+cash, and sent me a fake Hondata gasket so I wasn't that concerned.

Let's get something straight, you didn't pay $100 for anything I paid you more than you paid for the kit, in cash. I traded you two manifolds that are worth $100 each for one $89 pump that you got off ebay. I also paid $50 cash for shipping that only cost you $15. Not to mention the gasket and dowels I was overcharged on, the missing parts and the damaged finish that IS visible.

If anyone should have created a thread here calling someone a scammer it should have been me.

You'll get no refund or apologies from me.

You keep this rolling for as long as it takes for your tears to stop.

JohnnieChimpo · 11-16-2007, 07:56 AM

The next time you feel scammed, you open up your check book and see how my money has pushed your balance to more than it was before you even owned an LHT and you've got my manifolds which are worth even more money.

FYI, if you're still crying about the crack, I just had a ton of aluminum welding done for $40. I'm sure a crack that tiny and insignificant can be fixed for much less and in the end you'll just pass whatever it costs you on to the next guy plus your cut/profit.

MADEINIRAQ · 11-16-2007, 08:44 AM

it all comes down to you being butt hurt..

You should have just went directly to LHT... sent them your POS manifold and had them laugh at you.

You are an asshole. The exact person nobody wants to deal with online.

yes I'm still crying about the cracked manifolds.. I'm just as butt hurt as you

I guess its over.. you knowingly sent me broken manifolds.. and you knew I had a buyer lined up and expected to ship the manifold you were giving me to that guy.

Nobody cares if you work 70 hours a week.

SD_Lurker · 11-16-2007, 12:37 PM

I have to agree that Johnie is a class act sack of shit. He was made all along and that "what better way to get back at him by sending him my cracked manifolds. Thats fine he doesn't want to resolve the issue let it ruin his rep on HT. POFS

Specail Ed · 11-16-2007, 12:43 PM

Here's my question. How can you call someone a scammer when you were the one who sold the product, not him? I'm a little confused how someone can be called a scammer when they purchased product from you. Iraq, you seem bent that Chimpo sent you "cracked" manifolds, right? Chimpo, you seem bent that you didn't get what was promised, right? Personally I'm siding with Chimpo on this one. Regardless of who paid what, the parts Iraq claimed were in the kit were either damaged or incomplete. Granted the two manifolds you received back might be "cracked," but I almost feel like what goes around comes around. Iraq, you sent Chimpo a bunch of bunk parts and in turn you got bunk parts back. It's like you got a taste of your own medicine. Even if the manifolds were cracked, spend a couple of bucks and get them welded. You'll make a good profit off them. Just my two pennies.

boosstboy · 11-16-2007, 08:41 PM

scammer? iraq, you got the money that was agreed on and two USED manifolds in WORKING condition because they were welded and your complaining? did you know a weld is actually stronger than the metal it bonds? chimpo paid for a NOT used since lht mod manifold but got a kit where parts were missing, cosmetic damage, and ghetto rigged spacer. you f

ked chimpo and expected not to get f

ked? if i bought a kit that was supposed to be not used, but was jacked up, and paid you what you paid lht plus extra i would have did the same thing. if lht didn't give it to you that way why would you sell it like that at the price you paid for it. iraq, you ended up with a better deal, but you are calling chimpo a scammer.

MADEINIRAQ · 11-17-2007, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Specail Ed

Here's my question. How can you call someone a scammer when you were the one who sold the product, not him? I'm a little confused how someone can be called a scammer when they purchased product from you. Iraq, you seem bent that Chimpo sent you "cracked" manifolds, right? Chimpo, you seem bent that you didn't get what was promised, right? Personally I'm siding with Chimpo on this one. Regardless of who paid what, the parts Iraq claimed were in the kit were either damaged or incomplete. Granted the two manifolds you received back might be "cracked," but I almost feel like what goes around comes around. Iraq, you sent Chimpo a bunch of bunk parts and in turn you got bunk parts back. It's like you got a taste of your own medicine. Even if the manifolds were cracked, spend a couple of bucks and get them welded. You'll make a good profit off them. Just my two pennies.

nothing I sent him was bunk. I never advertised my intake manifold gasket as Hondata.

Want to buy the manifolds of me so you can make "good profit" I really don't see that happening. but I'll gladly sell them for $100 each just like I paid

Modified by MADEINIRAQ at 9:35 AM 11/17/2007

MADEINIRAQ · 11-17-2007, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by boosstboy

scammer? iraq, you got the money that was agreed on and two USED manifolds in WORKING condition because they were welded and your complaining? did you know a weld is actually stronger than the metal it bonds? chimpo paid for a NOT used since lht mod manifold but got a kit where parts were missing, cosmetic damage, and ghetto rigged spacer. you f

ked chimpo and expected not to get f

ked? if i bought a kit that was supposed to be not used, but was jacked up, and paid you what you paid lht plus extra i would have did the same thing. if lht didn't give it to you that way why would you sell it like that at the price you paid for it. iraq, you ended up with a better deal, but you are calling chimpo a scammer.

I got 2 manifolds that are cracked. One was welded but is cracked in another spot. they are both cracked and not in "working condition" by any means.. Who uses cracked stuff?

Yes I know how strong a weld is if properly done.. but its not like people go around looking for welded up stuff because it was stronger.

It all boils down to him not telling me they were cracked.. He chose to keep that information from me until I asked which I never did.

The "ghetto rigged spacer" is a matter of opinion. The spacer does not come with the kit. Its something everybody has to make for themselves. I made one for myself and intended to use it. I included it with the manifold to help him out and now its getting held against me? pretty neat.

JohnnieChimpo · 11-17-2007, 06:54 AM

I hate to keep this thread rolling but Jesus did I have a great laugh over all this.

You made a bunch of money off me, cried about not making even more, you had two people who didn't hear my side of the story tell you they felt bad for you, I explained how you are in fact the person who is ripping people off, one hillbilly who can't even string a sentence together or figure out how spell check works agreed with you (is that a pro or a con?), and two people who read my side, agreed with me,

and to top it off after looking this bad, you add a link to it in your sig.

I wish there was some internet way for me to convey just how much this makes me laugh.

How about this, AAAAA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH?

Oh no wait I can think of an even better way... \/ \/ \/ Check out my sig.

As far as my Honda Tech rep... (this made me laugh too, as if I have no friends outside of the internet so what people on this site think of me IS important to me.)

I don't really care what anyone thinks of me on here.

People I have bought stuff from, or met from this site, or have had in depth IMs with or know me in real life know that I am an honest guy who tells it like it is even if it is going to upset someone. I go out of my way to keep people happy but if you shit on me, that all ends and I become a dick.

You know what the funniest part of your post was?

Quote:

Originally Posted by MADEINIRAQ

.Nobody cares if you work 70 hours a week.

Ouch that was quite a burn. I don't think I'll ever recover. Have a nice life.

Specail Ed · 11-17-2007, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MADEINIRAQ

nothing I sent him was bunk. I never advertised my intake manifold gasket as Hondata.

Want to buy the manifolds of me so you can make "good profit" I really don't see that happening. but I'll gladly sell them for $100 each just like I paid

Modified by MADEINIRAQ at 9:35 AM 11/17/2007

Yeah, you'll charge me $100 each, but then try to rip me off by billing me $400 in shipping just so you'll make a "profit." Face it, you tried ripping Chimpo off in the first place by promising a new kit, and sending an incomplete, used kit. Was it right Chimpo sent back "cracked" manifolds, probably not. But was it right for you to overpromise and underdeliver, not at all. You are the one who made the money, not Chimpo. Therefor, you're the SCAMMER!!!