Finally!! Dual Walbro for hondas!!
10-29-2007, 06:22 PM
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Finally!! Dual Walbro for hondas!!
Ok guys starting off with the technical part of this post...
Alot of people believed that 2 walbros would fit inside the tank but could not get it in without hacking the opening of the tank. They are absolutely right, (2) walbros side by side would never fit through the opening of the tank. How ever they do sit very nice side by side in the baffle.
I know alot of people have mixed feelings about running 2 walbros, but weve made dual hangers for SRT's that are making about 700hp, Evos making 900+hp, DSM 1G's making well over 600hp. Plus there are a bunch of supra guys running around with this setup.
I have a SX pump on my civic and it is the most annoying thing ever! That was what got me to make a dual pump for the Evo that i also own. I could not stand a daily driver that buzzes all the damn time. Also I didnt want to sump the tank and all that stuff.
Well, I woulnt say this is a solution but rather an option for those guys that dont want to turn to the external pump route. I took alot of pics of how everything is put together so you guys can see how it all works. Some minor changes will be made in production but this is pretty much the final prototype. enjoy
This is everything that is needed to put the pumps in minus a couple small clamps, the rubber seal is reused from the stock unit.
I Install the supplied hose and aluminum rod so I can grab the pump later
I then layed everything on top of the tank
Next I slid the right pump in and pushed it down
Same for the other side
Then I attached the hose to the main cap and clamped it down
Next I pushed the slack of the hose down in the tank
Then I pulled on the aluminum wire to get the right pump back up and positioned it so i can bolt it to the main housing
THe bolts are counter bored to sit flush
Same goes for the left pump
Finally push the cap down and bolt her up and put the fittings on
Heres how they look sitting inside the tank.
Wiring for each pump, there are 2 options please look below
Modified by fullblown at 10:10 AM 11/1/2007
Modified by fullblown at 10:12 AM 11/1/2007
Modified by fullblown at 7:42 PM 11/2/2008
Alot of people believed that 2 walbros would fit inside the tank but could not get it in without hacking the opening of the tank. They are absolutely right, (2) walbros side by side would never fit through the opening of the tank. How ever they do sit very nice side by side in the baffle.
I know alot of people have mixed feelings about running 2 walbros, but weve made dual hangers for SRT's that are making about 700hp, Evos making 900+hp, DSM 1G's making well over 600hp. Plus there are a bunch of supra guys running around with this setup.
I have a SX pump on my civic and it is the most annoying thing ever! That was what got me to make a dual pump for the Evo that i also own. I could not stand a daily driver that buzzes all the damn time. Also I didnt want to sump the tank and all that stuff.
Well, I woulnt say this is a solution but rather an option for those guys that dont want to turn to the external pump route. I took alot of pics of how everything is put together so you guys can see how it all works. Some minor changes will be made in production but this is pretty much the final prototype. enjoy
This is everything that is needed to put the pumps in minus a couple small clamps, the rubber seal is reused from the stock unit.
I Install the supplied hose and aluminum rod so I can grab the pump later
I then layed everything on top of the tank
Next I slid the right pump in and pushed it down
Same for the other side
Then I attached the hose to the main cap and clamped it down
Next I pushed the slack of the hose down in the tank
Then I pulled on the aluminum wire to get the right pump back up and positioned it so i can bolt it to the main housing
THe bolts are counter bored to sit flush
Same goes for the left pump
Finally push the cap down and bolt her up and put the fittings on
Heres how they look sitting inside the tank.
Wiring for each pump, there are 2 options please look below
Modified by fullblown at 10:10 AM 11/1/2007
Modified by fullblown at 10:12 AM 11/1/2007
Modified by fullblown at 7:42 PM 11/2/2008
10-29-2007, 06:40 PM
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Re: (fullblown)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fullblown »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I havent gotten a final price yet but it will be cheaper then the evo and srt unit which sells for $399-$429.</TD></TR></TABLE>i just did an inline last month.. you need to send my shop a test one
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Thanks guys
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xsi-t »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i just did an inline last month.. you need to send my shop a test one </TD></TR></TABLE>
We're going to install it in our civic with a 4088r that has a SX pump on it now. Plus a few 600+hp cars soon. We have alot of time and money tied up in this, otherwise we would send a few out for for results. Heres a flow chart from RC of our evo unit which uses the same 2 pumps in the honda. at 75psi it will support up to 1000hp. As pressure increase volume will decrease.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hondaruss »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Very very nice setup!! but would you benefit form going to 2 pumps in stead of going to lets say an A1000 fuel pump? </TD></TR></TABLE>
From the flow chart above it shouldbe the same or more then a A1000 without the hassle of a sump, and noise.
Modified by fullblown at 8:04 PM 10/29/2007
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xsi-t »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i just did an inline last month.. you need to send my shop a test one
</TD></TR></TABLE>We're going to install it in our civic with a 4088r that has a SX pump on it now. Plus a few 600+hp cars soon. We have alot of time and money tied up in this, otherwise we would send a few out for for results. Heres a flow chart from RC of our evo unit which uses the same 2 pumps in the honda. at 75psi it will support up to 1000hp. As pressure increase volume will decrease.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hondaruss »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Very very nice setup!! but would you benefit form going to 2 pumps in stead of going to lets say an A1000 fuel pump? </TD></TR></TABLE>
From the flow chart above it shouldbe the same or more then a A1000 without the hassle of a sump, and noise.
Modified by fullblown at 8:04 PM 10/29/2007
10-29-2007, 07:29 PM
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Atta boy, LJ!
I passed this on to the guys who'll definitely appreciate it, in the Drag Racing forum.
I passed this on to the guys who'll definitely appreciate it, in the Drag Racing forum.
10-29-2007, 07:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostincoupe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Atta boy, LJ!
I passed this on to the guys who'll definitely appreciate it, in the Drag Racing forum. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks fanan
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xxbulaxx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Cool setup, but looks like a pain in the **** to put it together.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It took me about 20-30 mins for the install. That was with the tank outside of the car. We havent tested it inside the car, which will be tougher but we'll find out.
I passed this on to the guys who'll definitely appreciate it, in the Drag Racing forum.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Thanks fanan
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xxbulaxx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Cool setup, but looks like a pain in the **** to put it together.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It took me about 20-30 mins for the install. That was with the tank outside of the car. We havent tested it inside the car, which will be tougher but we'll find out.
10-29-2007, 08:23 PM
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Oh man...you really hit the nail on the head here if this is affordable!
I've done this to DSM's for quite a few years using one Walbro 255 and one Walbro 255 HP. This is definitely good for the Honda worlds
I've done this to DSM's for quite a few years using one Walbro 255 and one Walbro 255 HP. This is definitely good for the Honda worlds
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i am going to subscribe to this thread. i am in the maket for a fuel set-ups and this looks awesome. plus its cheaper than a a-1000and all the associated parts. please keep us updated. im gonna post this on other sites also if you dont mind
