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D.C. gun law challenged Washington, D.C., has urged that the justices uphold the city's ban on handguns — one of the strictest gun laws in the nation. City officials said the restriction is essential to fighting crime. "What we ban is a weapon that is uniquely dangerous, that is easily concealed and that is disproportionately used in crime," said Linda Singer, Attorney General for the District of Columbia. In a surprising ruling, a federal appeals court earlier this year declared the ban a violation of the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms. The law was challenged by a Washington, D.C., resident who claimed the Constitution gives him a right to own a handgun for self-defense. "I had a house broken into once, and things happen," said Rich Heller, the man who filed the lawsuit. "You want to protect yourself if you need to." Though the Supreme Court discussed the Second Amendment in a 1939 gun case, the court has never definitively ruled on if the amendment protects an individual's right to own a gun or if it only protects a right of state militias to resist being disarmed by the national government.

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I still don't understand why the government thinks it is okay to regulate some weapons -- but somehow regulating others is absurd. My Constitution doesn't contain such nuances in the Second Amendment.

But seriously: Why not allow automatic weapons?

Damn that is good 10$ word there. Had to break out the Dictionary to see what it meant. Gentrification can only work when the middle class and lower upper class can afford to move into an area or want to. Then what do you do with the displaced poor people.

When the criminals know everyone is unarmed and unprotected, it makes targets of opportunity much better. Criminals are opportunists, they rarely plan their crimes. If you can not be assured of weak and submissive targets, you won''t take the opportunity to commit a violent crime.

I disagree. With ccw, criminals still know almost everyone is without a gun.

Using your logic, home related crime should not exist because criminals will not take the chance.

(I understand you are not saying it would cease to exist but you get the point.)

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When the criminals know everyone is unarmed and unprotected, it makes targets of opportunity much better. Criminals are opportunists, they rarely plan their crimes. If you can not be assured of weak and submissive targets, you won''t take the opportunity to commit a violent crime.

And yet, the highest crime areas in DC are in areas where there are more people with guns. Hrm. There is negligible crime in the "good" areas, not b/c people are armed but b/c criminals are poor and stick to their own areas. If they wanted "weak and submissive targets" they'd roll over to the nice areas where there are (a) better things to take and (b) upper-middle class ninnies.

a gun law only handicaps LAW BIDING CITIZENS who are not likely to use a handgun to commit a crime.

do you think criminals care about whether or not a gun is banned in DC?

for the answer, look at the statistics!

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No one is arguing that chet, please learn to read.

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for the answer, look at the statistics!

The statistics are a joke. All CCW does is allow for individuals to carry weapons in certain public/private places. Everyone can still have weapons in thier homes yet there is still plenty of home related crime to go around.

I was referencing his comment about the statistics.

Having had a gun pulled on me before, I don't really care to make them widely available. But if we're going in on principle, let's go all in.

I've also had a firearm pulled on me on more than one occasion. Its not fun. Its a helpless feeling.
I feel a little better with my firearm because it evens the playing field. And alot of the time I'm not so much worried about protecting myself,but more so my loved ones if need arises

Because then the citizens would have a fighting chance against the government in a revolution.

lol, qft

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Automatic weapons would only slightly delay the onslaught. Let's be real here.

So yes, rifles are allowed. I am for CCW yet I don't let the hype of twisted crime statistics to be my reasoning.

gun ownership and training works

first, i hope you recognize the benefits of a handgun in many situations...which is why its difficult to compare them to a rifle. (while driving a vehicle, or for concealment purposes)

second, making guns "widely available" won't make it any easier for criminals to get them...as they are not allowed to purchase guns through conventional means anyway.

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