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| Quote, originally posted by DR Honda97 » | | this is to see what the import lifestyle thinks of George W Bush |
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Well, to get back on topic in spite of the lackluster thread, yes.I'd say despite his stumbles he's doing pretty well. CNN MOney today said unemployment was back to 2001 levels, so that's always good.
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Well if we're going to be serious:He's one of the worst presidents in the history of this nation. The economy is in the toilet, his tax cuts are only going to screw me 20 years down the line, the deficit has reached astronomical levels, he's spending like a liberal democrat, we're wasting too much money in Iraq (trillions), Americans are dying for nothing in Iraq, the whole war in Iraq is a mess, his drug prescription program is a joke and wasting billions, he's done nothing on immigration reform, and his cronies are all making money off his wars and little endeavors. I hope these 3 years go by as fast as possible.
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| Quote, originally posted by Bishop Don A. Shizzle » | | The economy is in the toilet. |
I wouldn't go in that direction at all, the economy isnt doing great, but its certainly not doing poorly either. If anything, the only ones who are in long term trouble are uneducated factory workers, whose jobs have been fleeing this country for decades now as is . . . edit: He is still, by far, the worst president this country has ever had.
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| « Re: Is bush doing a good job poll (Bishop Don A. Shizzle) | « » 4:07 PM 2/3/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by FrreeeBird » | | He is still, by far, the worst president this country has ever had. |
| Quote, originally posted by Bishop Don A. Shizzle » | | I hope these 3 years go by as fast as possible. | I 2nd that
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| « Re: Is bush doing a good job poll (Bishop Don A. Shizzle) | « » 4:41 PM 2/3/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Bishop Don A. Shizzle » | | Well if we're going to be serious: He's one of the worst presidents in the history of this nation. The economy is in the toilet, his tax cuts are only going to screw me 20 years down the line, the deficit has reached astronomical levels, he's spending like a liberal democrat, we're wasting too much money in Iraq (trillions), Americans are dying for nothing in Iraq, the whole war in Iraq is a mess, his drug prescription program is a joke and wasting billions, he's done nothing on immigration reform, and his cronies are all making money off his wars and little endeavors. I hope these 3 years go by as fast as possible. |
and to add to that.....he is putting all of his cronies in office....its gonna be a million years until they die....
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To the OP: If you want to know the really answer to this question, you're looking in the wrong place. HT is known for a far left view on a majority of issues. Anyway, I believe it can be said that Bush is doing a "good job," and heading the direction of have a historic (in a good way) presidency. Unemployment is down, Iraqis have been voting in huge turnouts, national security has been A+ since 9/11, he has appointed two supreme court justices that were both confirmed, and it is certainly obvious that Bush does care a great deal about the American people. There is a certain level of pessimism that always follows politics. This is normally found in the people that consider themselfs "moderate" or centrists." They claim they can "see both sides of every issue, they are rational and look at everything from an objective point of view," ect. IMO, these are just people who look for the bad in EVERY politican, unable to come up real ideas of their own. Just my opinon, could be wrong.
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| « Re: George W. Bush Poll (Boost Addict) | « » 7:20 PM 2/3/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Boost Addict » | | To the OP: If you want to know the really answer to this question, you're looking in the wrong place. HT is known for a far left view on a majority of issues. Anyway, I believe it can be said that Bush is doing a "good job," and heading the direction of have a historic (in a good way) presidency. Unemployment is down, Iraqis have been voting in huge turnouts, national security has been A+ since 9/11, he has appointed two supreme court justices that were both confirmed, and it is certainly obvious that Bush does care a great deal about the American people. There is a certain level of pessimism that always follows politics. This is normally found in the people that consider themselfs "moderate" or centrists." They claim they can "see both sides of every issue, they are rational and look at everything from an objective point of view," ect. IMO, these are just people who look for the bad in EVERY politican, unable to come up real ideas of their own. Just my opinon, could be wrong. |
I totally agree.
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| « Re: George W. Bush Poll (Boost Addict) | « » 7:22 PM 2/3/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Boost Addict » | | There is a certain level of pessimism that always follows politics. This is normally found in the people that consider themselves "moderate" or centrists." They claim they can "see both sides of every issue, they are rational and look at everything from an objective point of view," ect. IMO, these are just people who look for the bad in EVERY politician, unable to come up real ideas of their own. Just my opinion, could be wrong. |
just wanted to let you know your not wrong....and to add to that the reason they don't have ideas of their know is because they have no set convictions or core beliefs, these people are confused and it shows in their irrational ranting...take bishop for instance.
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| « Re: George W. Bush Poll (Boost Addict) | « » 7:24 PM 2/3/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Boost Addict » | | To the OP: If you want to know the really answer to this question, you're looking in the wrong place. HT is known for a far left view on a majority of issues. Anyway, I believe it can be said that Bush is doing a "good job," and heading the direction of have a historic (in a good way) presidency. Unemployment is down, Iraqis have been voting in huge turnouts, national security has been A+ since 9/11, he has appointed two supreme court justices that were both confirmed, and it is certainly obvious that Bush does care a great deal about the American people.
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I'll give you that unemployment is going down but don't you think we're pretty much motgaging the future of this country? He's trying to make his tax cuts permanent, but in a time where the economic future isn't so secure, should we really be cutting taxes? I just think it's fiscally irresponsible to cut taxes while you're fighting a war. The Iraq War costs aren't even factored into the 400 some billion we spend on defense so we're just adding more and more debt which will bite us in the ass down the road. I just wish he would be a "conservative" and not spend like a liberal. I'm all for cutting taxes, as long as it is done at the appropriate time. Also, I want someone to do something about the border. We can talk about national security and the Patriot Act all we want, but until we shore up that porous border, any of Osama's cronies can just walk across the Rio Grande and giving up civil liberties will be for nothing. I don't like the fact that we're starting to slowly invade American citizen's rights. I'm for limited government so seeing the Executive Office gain such unchecked powers and infringement of American citizens' privacy bothers me. Keep big brother out of my business. Security post-9/11 has been unblemished, I'll give him that. However, considering how the response and assitance was with FEMA (part of DHS) it's hard to see how if anoter attack were to occur, this country would be able to react. Oh and George Bush cares about the American people? Come the expletive on man. Considering who is really benefitting with him in office, he does care about the American people; the rich and wealthy American people.
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| « Re: George W. Bush Poll (dohcsideSi) | « » 7:26 PM 2/3/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by dohcsideSi » | just wanted to let you know your not wrong....and to add to that the reason they don't have ideas of their know is because they have no set convictions or core beliefs, these people are confused and it shows in their irrational ranting...take bishop for instance. |
Yeah, we should all be sheep like you who follow what you're told and can't think for yourself. Good job dumbass. You're a shining example of what is wrong with this country. I have convictions and basis to my thoughts and opinions. I just don't identify them all by one party. I'm "conservative" on issues and "liberal" on issues. People like you however, claim one side and stick to wahtever the party line is because you can't comprehend that there is room to think and come up with your own opinions. You're a real American. <rolls eyes>
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ok first settle down dude....this is what i know about you...your 21, live in cali, and spend a lot of time on the internet. you say you have your own thoughts and opinions but in every thread you start you quote a cnn article...and you agree 100%. maybe cnn is always right, but most likely not...you jump to conclusions, bash conservatives, insult people who don't agree with you, since you being in the middle of the road making your "own decisions" you somehow are so much smarter then everyone else..and go on irrational rants...using howard dean's talking points...btw the nsa program isn't illegal...fema is not a first responder...there is no conspiracy...the economy is not falling apart...and we are not spending trillions in iraq.... with every post you seem to bash someone.... and i am just wondering what civil liberties you gave up with the patriot act?? obviously you care about your country but it seems you don't understand the value in spreading freedom such as your comments about us soldiers "dying for nothing". it's cool that you care enough to be soo angry with your perceived state of the nation but you really need to follow though with a little research. i don't know how you vote and you don't know how i vote or who i support or how i think...so before you tell me i'm everything that's wrong with this country you should really step back look at some of your posts. calling people douchbags, retards, morons, dumbasses, and sheep doesn't make you look anymore intelligent then you already think you are.
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| Quote, originally posted by dohcsideSi » | | ok first settle down dude.... this is what i know about you...your 21, live in cali, and spend a lot of time on the internet. you say you have your own thoughts and opinions but in every thread you start you quote a cnn article...and you agree 100%. maybe cnn is always right, but most likely not...you jump to conclusions, bash conservatives, insult people who don't agree with you, since you being in the middle of the road making your "own decisions" you somehow are so much smarter then everyone else..and go on irrational rants...using howard dean's talking points...btw the nsa program isn't illegal...fema is not a first responder...there is no conspiracy...the economy is not falling apart...and we are not spending trillions in iraq.... with every post you seem to bash someone.... and i am just wondering what civil liberties you gave up with the patriot act?? obviously you care about your country but it seems you don't understand the value in spreading freedom such as your comments about us soldiers "dying for nothing". it's cool that you care enough to be soo angry with your perceived state of the nation but you really need to follow though with a little research. i don't know how you vote and you don't know how i vote or who i support or how i think...so before you tell me i'm everything that's wrong with this country you should really step back look at some of your posts. calling people douchbags, retards, morons, dumbasses, and sheep doesn't make you look anymore intelligent then you already think you are. |
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| Quote, originally posted by Bishop Don A. Shizzle » | | I don't like the fact that we're starting to slowly invade American citizen's rights. I'm for limited government so seeing the Executive Office gain such unchecked powers and infringement of American citizens' privacy bothers me. Keep big brother out of my business. | Tell me one way that your rights or anyone you know has been violated. This is a baseless argument. I couldn't care less about the 'rights' of someone talking to terrorist oversees. This is the same mentality that has the ACLU defending the rights of NAMBLA(North American Man Boy Love Assn.) It's misguided at best and is more akin to aiding and abetting. The reporter that exposed the wiretapping did a disservice to every American for the sake of his own career. If they could, they would tell our enemies our every move. Remember Geraldo's dumb ass drawing diagrams in the sand. That was nothing. This is a big deal. Now that they know were listening, they're gonna shut up. There aren't ANY rights that you and I had 10 Years ago that we still don't enjoy today. I dare you to name one.
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Some of you simpletons (I'm sorry, its what many of you are) miss the point entirely with the violation of our rights. Maybe it doesn't affect us directly but nevertheless, it sets an incredibly dangerous precident when the government gives the constitution the finger and does as it pleases and neither the congress nor the SCOTUS step in . . .
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Thats not true. If our rights were really infringed upon, Americans wouldn't put up with it for a minute. Most law abiding, hard working Americans don't give a damn about a criminals rights or some guy in this country talking to a terrorist oversees. But let them see their FELLOW Americans rights trampled and they will not tolerate it. But thats not happening and it's not going to happen because thats not what Bush or anyone else is trying to do.
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| Quote, originally posted by FrreeeBird » | | Some of you simpletons (I'm sorry, its what many of you are) | Implying that your intellectualy superior and have a more in depth understanding because you believe that even the worst of our society should have freedom to do as they please regardless of whether or not the end result effects us. You are so advanced. When will the rest of us catch up?
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| Quote, originally posted by FrreeeBird » | | Maybe it doesn't affect us directly but nevertheless, it sets an incredibly dangerous precedent when the government gives the constitution the finger and does as it pleases and neither the congress nor the SCOTUS step in . . . |
i understand exactly where your coming from because i believe the same thing...the only difference is that the nsa program at issue is very limited in it's scope...calls from a list of "hot" numbers (which are all international) are the only calls targeted.. the federal government should have three goals... 1. keeping our country and our borders (don't get me started) safe... 2. enacting laws and supporting programs that keep our economy strong.. 3. making sure that we have quality education across the board and it is funded properly.. that's it....the fedral government doesn't need anymore power then it already has, and i don't think we need programs like echelon recording everything...but for all the complaints against the patriot act not one case has been brought up against it... and as far as the leak goes in the nsa case, those responsible should be jailed for releasing top secret intelligence information....there are at least 3 suits i know of trying to get convictions overturned in terrorism cases on the basis of the nsa program was illegal (the brooklyn bridge bomber for instance)...with dozens more waiting in the wings...the leak was a great disservice to the safety of the american people...this is a program that works and has put terrorists in jail and stopped attacks...i understand reporters have the obligation to report their findings but in some cases like this (and back when we had osama's satellite phone tapped) there should have been some restraint just to let you know i'm not obsessed with the possibility of terrorists attacks nor am i afraid of them..but i do think the government has certain responsibilities within reason to protect us.
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| Quote, originally posted by amckee » | | Implying that your intellectualy superior and have a more in depth understanding because you believe that even the worst of our society should have freedom to do as they please regardless of whether or not the end result effects us. You are so advanced. When will the rest of us catch up? |
If you read my post, and understood it, you would realize my main concern lies with the precedent being set, not with the scope or nature of the violations themselves.
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You act like this is the watershed event that will determine our future rights and it's not. It's not the foot in the door. There isn't a conspiracy to take away your freedom.
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| Quote, originally posted by FrreeeBird » | | Some of you simpletons (I'm sorry, its what many of you are) miss the point entirely with the violation of our rights. Maybe it doesn't affect us directly but nevertheless, it sets an incredibly dangerous precident when the government gives the constitution the finger and does as it pleases and neither the congress nor the SCOTUS step in . . . |
This argument is tired, old, and more talking points than anything else. You have the same mentalty of most libertarians. Everything any democrat or republican does is wrong, you feel that you are somehow above anyone that votes for 2 of the countries real political parties because you think you have more of an objective view than these "sheeps" that vote along party lines. Not only that, but anything that you think infringes on the rights of Americans means were are on a steady course to a big brother type government. But back to the point: Bush's wiretrapping program was legal and constitutional. In fact, not only is it constitutional, but he has a consitutional RESPONSABILITY to run the program, to protect the American people.
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| Quote, originally posted by Boost Addict » | | But back to the point: Bush's wiretrapping program was legal and constitutional. In fact, not only is it constitutional, but he has a consitutional RESPONSABILITY to run the program, to protect the American people. |
Wrong and wrong.
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| Quote, originally posted by Boost Addict » | | This argument is tired, old, and more talking points than anything else. You have the same mentalty of most libertarians. Everything any democrat or republican does is wrong, you feel that you are somehow above anyone that votes for 2 of the countries real political parties because you think you have more of an objective view than these "sheeps" that vote along party lines. Not only that, but anything that you think infringes on the rights of Americans means were are on a steady course to a big brother type government. But back to the point: Bush's wiretrapping program was legal and constitutional. In fact, not only is it constitutional, but he has a consitutional RESPONSABILITY to run the program, to protect the American people. |
I don't understand how you can be so sure that these wiretaps are constitutional when John McCain said himself that he didn't even know.
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