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Pharoh · 07-24-2004, 07:08 AM

don't know if anyone mentioned the K20A2 and K20A3 for the 2001 + Civic Coupe and Sedan.

Hasport should have the mounts out soon for the K24 as well.

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BGspeed · 07-24-2004, 11:19 PM

I have a 95' EG SiR Civic (Not my daily driven car)and im just getting into the JDM scene. Alot of my friends right now are driving NA motors. My engine blew not to long ago, and I thought now would be the perfect time to get into tuning. But I don't know what motor I should get. I've asked my friends and they all tell me different ones (each tells me the one they're running, like the one with the B18C5, tells me to get a B18C5.) The motors I've had in mind were: B18's, B20's, H22's or H23's. I just want raw power without getting gay and bolting on a turbo. Money is not a problem. And once I decide on a motor im going to start looking into sending it to Japan to be overhauled, and etc. (Most likely be sending it to Spoon, because I have a friend who works over there.) So what motor will be best outfitted with all Spoon parts? And remember NA.

Modified by BGspeed at 11:34 PM 7/24/2004

Modified by BGspeed at 11:41 PM 7/24/2004

97Ej6 · 07-27-2004, 12:09 PM

Good info

I have a 97 DX coupe as you know I have it has a weak heart in it D16Y7

I want to know what you guys think would be the best swap for my car looking at it from both performance wise and expense wise let me know what you guys think anything is welcomed

Ricey McRicerton · 07-27-2004, 04:24 PM

Agian, every "what swap should I get" should be based on your budget and your wants/needs.

Check pricing on a site such as HMO.com or similar and then see what you like the best out of either finding cars in your area with the swaps or the pros/cons that I've outlined.

Ive got a y7 with a turbo setup on it and its faster than anything else for the money here as long as you don't have goals of 300+whp.

Narin · 07-28-2004, 01:08 AM

Cons
Not as much potential as some other motors
Transmission not geared for accelleration
Don't respond to bolt ons well
Only way to get real power out of them is FI

Bolt ons as in CAI and Full exhaust?

Any proper way to gear the tranny for acceleration.
And what D series are we looking at ? Model wise that reaches the 130 break point.

Vtec-94 · 07-28-2004, 10:24 AM

This is my first swap. Is there anything pertinant that I need to know, I plan on doing a K series swap. Any input would be great

Pharoh · 07-28-2004, 02:16 PM

K series into what car again.

There's a ton to know about the K series when slammin it into a different car.

there's a lot of info on http://www.7thgencivic.comif you search for it. A lot of members have done the swap and others have researched it because they intend to do it....like me. I'm waiting for the K24.

You can also look to Hasport for guidance. They've done the K20A2 into a 7thgen Civic Sedan and a turbo K20A2 into an EK hatch.

Next level performance in Toronto has put the K20a2 into an EG hatch as well.

Vtec-94 · 07-29-2004, 08:43 AM

I have a 94' EX coupe. Thanks for the website.

Question: My buddy told me that I could take a B16 block and put a GSR head on it. Is that possible and is it more work than its worth or is that a good thing to do?

Modified by Vtec-94 at 10:09 AM 7/29/2004

Modified by Vtec-94 at 6:13 AM 7/30/2004

ruckussss · 07-29-2004, 06:06 PM

a b18c in a civic hatch has a whole lot of potential

wagon-r · 07-31-2004, 09:50 AM

The B16A head is pretty good - pretty much the same as the Type R head, just without the mild porting job. The GSR head might be slightly better, but I don't think it would be worth the trouble to make the swap.

Ricey McRicerton · 07-31-2004, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigtymer

Cons
Not as much potential as some other motors
Transmission not geared for accelleration
Don't respond to bolt ons well
Only way to get real power out of them is FI

Bolt ons as in CAI and Full exhaust?

Any proper way to gear the tranny for acceleration.
And what D series are we looking at ? Model wise that reaches the 130 break point.

I assume your talking about the D series motors.

They don't respond all that well to bolt ons. 10-15 hp MAX for bolt ons (around 800 bucks or so) is NOT a good bang for the buck mod. No D series have a very accelleration oriented transmission. Simple as that. The shortest D tranny that isnt custom (ex/si) is abou the same as the longest B tranny (ls gearbox)

Farkis · 08-03-2004, 04:49 AM

hey people im from Australia and was just wondering on swaping my engine
i have a 1991 Civic Breeze (late 91, EG3) 1.3L carby i want good acceleration and fairly good top speed accel more important. which engine would you recommend and wot will i need to change to put the engine in?

thanx heaps

nota-ex · 08-04-2004, 12:17 PM

im piecing together stuff for my swap. b18b into a 95 civic ex. i am going to go with the gsr tranny b/c i hear it has short gears. am i going to need to get the gsr shift linkage or the b18b linkage? i have the driverside mount and 2 tranny mounts, what other mounts will i need? what ecu will i need to get? will i need an ls or gsr front axle?

if anyone could post up a website where i could find all of this stuff i'd really appreciate it.

Rocco. · 08-04-2004, 01:29 PM

What do u have to do to overcome the hub problem of the c5 swap?

Ricey McRicerton · 08-07-2004, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roccocivic

What do u have to do to overcome the hub problem of the c5 swap?

It's actually the JDM R swap, not the USDM C5. I can't really answer your question though. B18C5-EH2 would be a better contact on this one.

Dave421 · 08-09-2004, 06:01 PM

[quote=Vtec-94]I have a 94' EX coupe. Thanks for the website.

Question: My buddy told me that I could take a B16 block and put a GSR head on it. Is that possible and is it more work than its worth or is that a good thing to do?

QUOTE]

there's not much point...reverse that and build a poor man's type-r (gsr block w/ b16 head)

Dave421 · 08-09-2004, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nota-ex

im piecing together stuff for my swap. b18b into a 95 civic ex. i am going to go with the gsr tranny b/c i hear it has short gears. am i going to need to get the gsr shift linkage or the b18b linkage? i have the driverside mount and 2 tranny mounts, what other mounts will i need? what ecu will i need to get? will i need an ls or gsr front axle?

if anyone could post up a website where i could find all of this stuff i'd really appreciate it.

if you want short gears a b16 or type-r tranny will be better. linkage is the same on both. for the ecu, the one for the motor will be best/easiest

SkoundrelUSA · 08-11-2004, 01:06 PM

Hey Ricey I got a quick question, of all the B SERIES which would you say responds best to bolt on stuff.

somefool · 08-12-2004, 12:50 PM

i'm bout to buy a 97' ls complete with motor mounts an tranny but no axles.... is 1500 a good price?

Ricey McRicerton · 08-13-2004, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkoundrelUSA

Hey Ricey I got a quick question, of all the B SERIES which would you say responds best to bolt on stuff.

Eh, none of them make a ton of power from bolt ons, but if I had to do bolt ons to one of them it would be the B18C5. Only because you could get the kind of power I wanted out of just bolt ons though.

HndGoob · 08-16-2004, 06:36 PM

i have i 89 civic hb with a zc motor in it i heard that you could put a h22 in it is this possible and does anyone know were i can get the swap from

supdawg2 · 08-17-2004, 11:49 AM

I'm a little confused. I apologize, but I'm a newbie to hondas.

My 94 EX coupe is OBD II from the factory, or OBD I? And if I'm going to do a swap, I noticed there are two versions of the B16A2. The OBD II and OBD I. Which one do I want to go with?

SkoundrelUSA · 08-17-2004, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supdawg2

I'm a little confused. I apologize, but I'm a newbie to hondas.

My 94 EX coupe is OBD II from the factory, or OBD I? And if I'm going to do a swap, I noticed there are two versions of the B16A2. The OBD II and OBD I. Which one do I want to go with?

I'm 98% positive your civic is OBD1 and need to get the OBD1 version. On http://www.hmotorsonline.com theres a complete B16 swap for your civic. (92-95) B16A2 complete swap

fixed my car, once · 08-18-2004, 05:30 PM

I appreciate your very detailed info, but I'm not saavy enough to understand everything. I have a 92 civic dx with the standard d15b7 engine that is currently dead. I was told a d15b SOHC VTEC engine would make a clean swap. Visually, it doesn't look like it will (I don't know what this engine would have come out of).

When I say clean, I'm looking for an easy, straight forward swap or one with little alterations. I have a master certified mechanic to perform the work but he does not have compatibility information. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated- thanks.

mike1jag · 08-20-2004, 10:42 AM

I have a ls/vtec and it is great, but when the shop did the swap they drilled a hole in the top of the valve cover for the pcv valve. does any one know why?

07-27-2004, 04:24 PM	#54
Ricey McRicerton Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 15,146	Re: What swaps are available for my Civic? (DeMen7ed) Agian, every "what swap should I get" should be based on your budget and your wants/needs. Check pricing on a site such as HMO.com or similar and then see what you like the best out of either finding cars in your area with the swaps or the pros/cons that I've outlined. Ive got a y7 with a turbo setup on it and its faster than anything else for the money here as long as you don't have goals of 300+whp. __________________ 09 SI Sedan

07-28-2004, 01:08 AM	#55
Narin Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Brantford, Ontario, Canada Posts: 9	Re: What swaps are available for my Civic? (Ricey McRicerton) Cons Not as much potential as some other motors Transmission not geared for accelleration Don't respond to bolt ons well Only way to get real power out of them is FI Bolt ons as in CAI and Full exhaust? Any proper way to gear the tranny for acceleration. And what D series are we looking at ? Model wise that reaches the 130 break point.

07-28-2004, 10:24 AM	#56
Vtec-94 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: CO, USA Posts: 790	Re: What swaps are available for my Civic? (bigtymer) This is my first swap. Is there anything pertinant that I need to know, I plan on doing a K series swap. Any input would be great __________________ PAYPAL VERIFIED

07-28-2004, 02:16 PM	#57
Pharoh Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 25	Re: What swaps are available for my Civic? (Vtec-94) K series into what car again. There's a ton to know about the K series when slammin it into a different car. there's a lot of info on http://www.7thgencivic.comif you search for it. A lot of members have done the swap and others have researched it because they intend to do it....like me. I'm waiting for the K24. You can also look to Hasport for guidance. They've done the K20A2 into a 7thgen Civic Sedan and a turbo K20A2 into an EK hatch. Next level performance in Toronto has put the K20a2 into an EG hatch as well.

07-29-2004, 08:43 AM	#58
Vtec-94 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: CO, USA Posts: 790	Re: What swaps are available for my Civic? (Pharoh) I have a 94' EX coupe. Thanks for the website. Question: My buddy told me that I could take a B16 block and put a GSR head on it. Is that possible and is it more work than its worth or is that a good thing to do? Modified by Vtec-94 at 10:09 AM 7/29/2004 Modified by Vtec-94 at 6:13 AM 7/30/2004 __________________ PAYPAL VERIFIED

07-24-2004, 11:19 PM	#52
BGspeed Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: SCS, MI, US Posts: 1	I have a 95' EG SiR Civic (Not my daily driven car)and im just getting into the JDM scene. Alot of my friends right now are driving NA motors. My engine blew not to long ago, and I thought now would be the perfect time to get into tuning. But I don't know what motor I should get. I've asked my friends and they all tell me different ones (each tells me the one they're running, like the one with the B18C5, tells me to get a B18C5.) The motors I've had in mind were: B18's, B20's, H22's or H23's. I just want raw power without getting gay and bolting on a turbo. Money is not a problem. And once I decide on a motor im going to start looking into sending it to Japan to be overhauled, and etc. (Most likely be sending it to Spoon, because I have a friend who works over there.) So what motor will be best outfitted with all Spoon parts? And remember NA. Modified by BGspeed at 11:34 PM 7/24/2004 Modified by BGspeed at 11:41 PM 7/24/2004

07-29-2004, 06:06 PM	#59
ruckussss Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: brindleville, PA, USA Posts: 88	Re: What swaps are available for my Civic? (Ricey McRicerton) a b18c in a civic hatch has a whole lot of potential

07-31-2004, 09:50 AM	#60
wagon-r Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: MI, USA Posts: 62	Re: What swaps are available for my Civic? (ruckussss) The B16A head is pretty good - pretty much the same as the Type R head, just without the mild porting job. The GSR head might be slightly better, but I don't think it would be worth the trouble to make the swap. __________________ 1994 Accord wagon LX with H22A, 5-speed with Quaife LSD, Eibach springs, KYB GTX adjustable stuts, adjustable rear sway bar, and Kosai K-1 wheels with Bridgestone 225/50R15 S03 tires.

08-03-2004, 04:49 AM	#62
Farkis Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Perth, WA, Australia Posts: 43	Re: What swaps are available for my Civic? (Ricey McRicerton) hey people im from Australia and was just wondering on swaping my engine i have a 1991 Civic Breeze (late 91, EG3) 1.3L carby i want good acceleration and fairly good top speed accel more important. which engine would you recommend and wot will i need to change to put the engine in? thanx heaps

08-04-2004, 12:17 PM	#63
nota-ex Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mechanicsville, Maryland, US Posts: 753	Re: What swaps are available for my Civic? (Datflypapito) im piecing together stuff for my swap. b18b into a 95 civic ex. i am going to go with the gsr tranny b/c i hear it has short gears. am i going to need to get the gsr shift linkage or the b18b linkage? i have the driverside mount and 2 tranny mounts, what other mounts will i need? what ecu will i need to get? will i need an ls or gsr front axle? if anyone could post up a website where i could find all of this stuff i'd really appreciate it.

08-04-2004, 01:29 PM	#64
Rocco. Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: edmonton, Ab, Canada Posts: 309	Re: What swaps are available for my Civic? (Ricey McRicerton) What do u have to do to overcome the hub problem of the c5 swap?

08-09-2004, 06:01 PM	#66
Dave421 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Raleigh, NC, u.s. Posts: 770	Re: What swaps are available for my Civic? (Vtec-94) [quote=Vtec-94]I have a 94' EX coupe. Thanks for the website. Question: My buddy told me that I could take a B16 block and put a GSR head on it. Is that possible and is it more work than its worth or is that a good thing to do? QUOTE] there's not much point...reverse that and build a poor man's type-r (gsr block w/ b16 head) __________________ team tz'd

08-11-2004, 01:06 PM	#68
SkoundrelUSA Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Joisy, USA Posts: 6,716	Re: What swaps are available for my Civic? (Ricey McRicerton) Hey Ricey I got a quick question, of all the B SERIES which would you say responds best to bolt on stuff. __________________ "So whats the deal with politics? I don't get it...Am I right people? "

08-12-2004, 12:50 PM	#69
somefool Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1	Re: What swaps are available for my Civic? (SkoundrelUSA) i'm bout to buy a 97' ls complete with motor mounts an tranny but no axles.... is 1500 a good price?

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HndGoob Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Savannah, ga, usa Posts: 26	Re: What swaps are available for my Civic? (SkoundrelUSA) i have i 89 civic hb with a zc motor in it i heard that you could put a h22 in it is this possible and does anyone know were i can get the swap from

08-17-2004, 11:49 AM	#72
supdawg2 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Covina, CA Posts: 92	Re: What swaps are available for my Civic? (Ricey McRicerton) I'm a little confused. I apologize, but I'm a newbie to hondas. My 94 EX coupe is OBD II from the factory, or OBD I? And if I'm going to do a swap, I noticed there are two versions of the B16A2. The OBD II and OBD I. Which one do I want to go with?

08-18-2004, 05:30 PM	#74
fixed my car, once Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Terre Haute, IN, USA Posts: 1	Re: What swaps are available for my Civic? (Ricey McRicerton) I appreciate your very detailed info, but I'm not saavy enough to understand everything. I have a 92 civic dx with the standard d15b7 engine that is currently dead. I was told a d15b SOHC VTEC engine would make a clean swap. Visually, it doesn't look like it will (I don't know what this engine would have come out of). When I say clean, I'm looking for an easy, straight forward swap or one with little alterations. I have a master certified mechanic to perform the work but he does not have compatibility information. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated- thanks.

08-20-2004, 10:42 AM	#75
mike1jag Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: columbia, tn, maury Posts: 55	Re: What swaps are available for my Civic? (Ricey McRicerton) I have a ls/vtec and it is great, but when the shop did the swap they drilled a hole in the top of the valve cover for the pcv valve. does any one know why? __________________ 99 civic 4dr b20/vtec jdm type r trans,crome ecu......sold 96 civic hatch ls swap .........sold 97 integra to much to list......this is the last one .......for now

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