Notices
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

Spark Plugs Indicate Lean Condition Help Me Troubleshoot

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-15-2010, 09:02 AM
  #1  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
averyvm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Cleveland, OH
Posts: 1,063
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Spark Plugs Indicate Lean Condition Help Me Troubleshoot

Hey whats up guys heres the situation,

I drive a 93 Honda Civic hatch with an OBD1 B18A1 motor in it that has been rebuilt by me. Anyways a problem that I have been having for a long time is this. Everytime while driving at part throttle as soon I let of the gas the car backfires. I pull the plugs and they look very lean. (Electrodes look white and porceline is completly white.) I have a fuel pressure gauge installed and the fuel pressure is at 38-40psi during idle.

Do you guys think it would be worthwile to take off the intake manifold with the injectors still attached so that I could see the spray pattern of the injectors. Sometimes the car is also dificult to start.

Things I've checked:
Igntion timing is good
Engine timing is good
Fuel Pressure good
NGK plugs from Autozone 2.99 w/ proper gap
Old 06-15-2010, 09:24 AM
  #2  
Honda-Tech Member
 
lome1232's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: OC
Posts: 91
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Spark Plugs Indicate Lean Condition Help Me Troubleshoot

Bump
Old 06-15-2010, 09:43 AM
  #3  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Former User's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 45,219
Likes: 0
Received 44 Likes on 22 Posts
Default Re: Spark Plugs Indicate Lean Condition Help Me Troubleshoot

Backfiring indicates unburned fuel in the cylinders. Did you check the ignition timing with the service connector jumped? What conditions are the plug wires, cap, and rotor?
Old 06-15-2010, 11:57 AM
  #4  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
averyvm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Cleveland, OH
Posts: 1,063
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Spark Plugs Indicate Lean Condition Help Me Troubleshoot

Plug wires were replaced about 3 months ago with oem plug wires. Cap and rotor are in relative good condition.

Yes you're right backfire does indicate unburned fuel. I was thinking with a poor spray pattern from the injectors there would be poor atomazation or mixing of the fuel rusulting in a lean condition. Later, that exess fuel that never got mixed well would then ignite later in the exhaust stream which causes the backfire. I dont know for sure just a hunch. bump
Old 06-15-2010, 11:58 AM
  #5  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
averyvm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Cleveland, OH
Posts: 1,063
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Spark Plugs Indicate Lean Condition Help Me Troubleshoot

And RonJ@HT I like your sig. That what Im trying to do.
Old 06-15-2010, 12:01 PM
  #6  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Former User's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 45,219
Likes: 0
Received 44 Likes on 22 Posts
Default Re: Spark Plugs Indicate Lean Condition Help Me Troubleshoot

https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/how-pull-cel-d4-srs-abs-codes-code-lists-1901557/
Old 06-15-2010, 03:18 PM
  #7  
Honda-Tech Member
 
canadaek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: ontario canada
Posts: 1,529
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: Spark Plugs Indicate Lean Condition Help Me Troubleshoot

if its runing excessivly lean it can create hot spots and lead to detonation and backfires have you checked map ect sensor and O2 sensor ? all effect air/fuel ratio
Old 06-15-2010, 03:21 PM
  #8  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
averyvm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Cleveland, OH
Posts: 1,063
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Spark Plugs Indicate Lean Condition Help Me Troubleshoot

no havent checked the map. If I dont have a check engine light doesnt that mean the sensor is working fine?

Last edited by averyvm; 06-16-2010 at 05:40 AM.
Old 06-15-2010, 06:36 PM
  #9  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
averyvm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Cleveland, OH
Posts: 1,063
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Spark Plugs Indicate Lean Condition Help Me Troubleshoot

bump
Old 06-16-2010, 05:40 AM
  #10  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
averyvm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Cleveland, OH
Posts: 1,063
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Spark Plugs Indicate Lean Condition Help Me Troubleshoot

ttt
Old 06-16-2010, 02:41 PM
  #11  
Honda-Tech Member
 
canadaek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: ontario canada
Posts: 1,529
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: Spark Plugs Indicate Lean Condition Help Me Troubleshoot

Originally Posted by averyvm
no havent checked the map. If I dont have a check engine light doesnt that mean the sensor is working fine?
not always. check engine light is more for emmisions then driveablity . what year make motor is it ?
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
eldudepapi
Honda Minivans, Crossovers, and Trucks
0
04-20-2017 12:00 PM
Brandeno
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
6
05-31-2015 08:55 AM
biggulpaddictio
All Motor / Naturally Aspirated
4
08-19-2011 05:39 AM
accord2civic2prelude
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
29
11-10-2009 03:30 PM
nd94cx
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
1
09-21-2004 07:29 PM



Quick Reply: Spark Plugs Indicate Lean Condition Help Me Troubleshoot



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:15 AM.