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Old 05-27-2011, 04:11 AM
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pmed you
I reccomend buddy club or memory fab rails.
Does memoryfab sell their rails or seats anymore?
Old 05-27-2011, 07:24 AM
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Yeah their site is just BS. If you call them or hitthem up on facebook you can still order parts. I am actually talking tothem now about a replacement cove for my 68. They have a new design prototype that's got alcantara and red stitching
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Yeah their site is just BS. If you call them or hitthem up on facebook you can still order parts. I am actually talking tothem now about a replacement cove for my 68. They have a new design prototype that's got alcantara and red stitching
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Awesome car. Don't see too many newer cars done up extensively.

Very classy!

This forum seems to have a high caliber of rides. I've got a lot of ground to cover still, lol.
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I was looking at finally upgrading my ep3's suspension and I figured I would talk to you about what im looking for since I have the exact same tires/rims setup as yourself.

I was looking at this current setup and dont want to spend no more than 2000$ for the setup..


Bilstein valved shocks with custom springs
Current Tire setup (Front 17x9+35 - 245/40/17) (Rear 17x7.5+48 - 225/45/17) Dunlop Star specs (RPF1) same as yours

What tuning numbers I was looking at...

400 lbs front (15mm sway em2 sway)
700 lbs rear (27mm hotckins sway)

What numbers I heard you can run properly on a ep3...

500 lbs front (no sway)
850 lbs rear (16mm sway)

Differences? Recommendations? before I finally settle on a purchase?

It is a DD car and I go to the track once a month. Stored during winter for the next couple of years. I also take the car camping up north 6 hours drives car filled with stuff. Dunno if this will hinder the outcome but your thoughts would really help out. Thx man.

BTW Awesome tire/rim setup. Could not be any more happier with the way it works with the car
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Default Re: SHG is back! Easy's EP3 goes under the knife...

I also noticed alot of people not running front sways on the ep, whats the beef with sway bars.. Oversteer, I'm assuming, but I never had the wheels to where I couldnt bring the wheel back around...
Old 05-29-2011, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by MissShift
I was looking at finally upgrading my ep3's suspension and I figured I would talk to you about what im looking for since I have the exact same tires/rims setup as yourself.

I was looking at this current setup and dont want to spend no more than 2000$ for the setup..


Bilstein valved shocks with custom springs
Current Tire setup (Front 17x9+35 - 245/40/17) (Rear 17x7.5+48 - 225/45/17) Dunlop Star specs (RPF1) same as yours

What tuning numbers I was looking at...

400 lbs front (15mm sway em2 sway)
700 lbs rear (27mm hotckins sway)

What numbers I heard you can run properly on a ep3...

500 lbs front (no sway)
850 lbs rear (16mm sway)

Differences? Recommendations? before I finally settle on a purchase?

It is a DD car and I go to the track once a month. Stored during winter for the next couple of years. I also take the car camping up north 6 hours drives car filled with stuff. Dunno if this will hinder the outcome but your thoughts would really help out. Thx man.

BTW Awesome tire/rim setup. Could not be any more happier with the way it works with the car
Nice man yeah its def a great setup! For springs I would reccomend my old setup or stiffer. I was running 500f 750r with a DC5R front sway and stock rear sway. It rode very nice on the street, not to stiff, but still had a bit too much roll for track duty with our tire setup.

I definitely would NOT run this setup without a front sway, or run softer than this for any kind of track use. The front of the car feels really sloppy and dives like crazy without that front sway.

My new setup is 650f 1000r but I havent had a chance to drive it yet since Im still waiting on my rear shocks to come back from rebuilding.

The best compromise between a street and track setup is 500f 750+r, EM2 front sway and TypeS rear sway. Thats my reccomendation, I think if you use that as a guideline you will be very happy with the results

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I also noticed alot of people not running front sways on the ep, whats the beef with sway bars.. Oversteer, I'm assuming, but I never had the wheels to where I couldnt bring the wheel back around...
Well the idea is that a swaybar on the drive wheels will limit traction since when the car rolls it is lifting the inside wheel. This is a true fact, but in order to not run a sway bar your spring rates have to be stiff enough to limit body roll without the aid of the sway bar. Thats what makes swaybars useful for cars that are still driven on the street that cant run the stiff rates needed to limit body roll.
Old 05-29-2011, 08:07 AM
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So guys I got a little insight on my rear shock situation yesterday. Me and the GF went to the Grand Am race at Limerock and AST had their truck there along with Brian (president of AST) and Pete (rep for Aragosta from Holland). Turns out my shocks are a funky old Aragosta setup and they have tried all their "stock" parts as replacements and none have been the right dimensions. Now they are working on fabricating new bodies and internals from scratch, or another option is I upgrade to brand new updated rear shocks to replace the pesky old ones. Im getting a call on monday to talk details, so fingers crossed
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The best compromise between a street and track setup is 500f 750+r, EM2 front sway and TypeS rear sway. Thats my reccomendation, I think if you use that as a guideline you will be very happy with the results
By 750(+r) u mean?

Anything wrong with using a 27mm sway on the 750 rear?

As well helper springs? where would they be included here? Do I need them, or only for the front?

Much thx
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your attention to detail is truly inspiring.

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By 750(+r) u mean?

Anything wrong with using a 27mm sway on the 750 rear?

As well helper springs? where would they be included here? Do I need them, or only for the front?

Much thx
I mean 750 or higher, whatever your preference. 750 is a good place to start IMO. If you do some tracking and feel like you want the car to be more loose you can go to a higher rate.

Nothing wrong with the 27mm sway, just not sure if its necessary or not. Its all up to user preference and what the car is used for.

Helper springs are to keep the spring against the top hat at full suspension droop, say when you jack the car off the ground, or lift an inside rear wheel at the track or autocross. If you have a setup like say buddy club, there are separate height and preload adjustments. That means you dont have to use the spring perch to raise or lower the car.

Most coilovers are not built this way though, and require the actual spring and perch to be raised and lowered to adjust ride height, like mine. So if you want a low ride height, and your shocks are a bit too long, the spring will flop around at full droop. A helper spring is installed to keep that spring tight, but when the car is put back on the ground the helper fully compresses and is now basically just part of the perch.

It can be kind of confusing without a visual. Try googling it and see if you can find some video clips or animations.
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And the S2 tie down came in. Debating if I want to remove the logos for a cleaner look, what do you guys think?

I say u def. keep the logo; looks clean as is. You also don't want to hurt ur chances of getting junk2 certified.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2942054

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And a little sneak peak

Brakes look good; clearance is just right it seems . .

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hell yeah, i like the idea of cleaning up the battery tie down so its just one color.
it looks one color to me . .
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i counted the white lettering as the second color haha. and you are soo right. don't wanna ruin his chances on being certified by taking the logo off
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Originally Posted by SHG_EasyE
Yeah their site is just BS. If you call them or hitthem up on facebook you can still order parts. I am actually talking tothem now about a replacement cove for my 68. They have a new design prototype that's got alcantara and red stitching
Word. I emailed them but I guess I'll try FB and calling.
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a nice addition to the exterior of your car would be the

stock 04-05 sideskirts

ctr sideskirts would be ok too but i'm not a fan of them too much

imo sideskirts complete the look
so the car doesnt look so van-ish
Old 06-02-2011, 06:42 PM
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Brakes look good; clearance is just right it seems . .


Yeah they clear the spokes fine, but its def close to the inside of the barrel. I had to machine a bit off the corners of the calipers to get a little extra clearance...





Originally Posted by NEO_FOLLOWER2
a nice addition to the exterior of your car would be the

stock 04-05 sideskirts

ctr sideskirts would be ok too but i'm not a fan of them too much

imo sideskirts complete the look
so the car doesnt look so van-ish
Yeah I think Buddy Club skirts are in the far distant future. Motor and transmission build comes before exterior mods
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Exhaust came in yesterday

Quality and craftsmanship on these is so awesome. The system is all slip joints and also uses hollow hangers to also shed some weight. Total weight @ 19lbs







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Nice exhaust E.......I so love BC exhausts
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The exhaust looks pretty sharp... apart from this one piece:



I have a feeling you could improve these Evan.
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Lovin the updates man! Those brakes are the ****!
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Get some vids of the exhaust!
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Thanks guys

Ill definitely have some exhaust vids up as soon as the car is running again. Im still waiting on my battery and donut gasket for the manifold. Should be getting here early next week!
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What "sPec" is the exhaust Evan? I got my bucket situation handled. Thanks again for the offer.


Edit: looks like a racing 3?
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Yup Spec 3!


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