SHG is back! Easy's EP3 goes under the knife...
04-01-2011, 04:12 AM
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Re: SHG is back! Easy's EP3 goes under the knife...
Skunk 2 arms any better than anything thing else on the market?
I was looking at Function 7's arms and also found this, looks interesting..
http://www.function-7.com/products/rsxrb
but im guessing it would run a pretty penny as well (even just for the arms) as apposed to skunk 2 which are pretty cheap for lca
I was looking at Function 7's arms and also found this, looks interesting..
http://www.function-7.com/products/rsxrb
but im guessing it would run a pretty penny as well (even just for the arms) as apposed to skunk 2 which are pretty cheap for lca
These Skunk arms seem to be one of the best designed suspension products they make, and much better than everything but the F7's. The S2's also have an advantage over the F7's in that they use that steel mounting plate to evenly distribute load instead of just with the heads of the bolts on aluminum.
Yeah Ive never been a supporter of Skunk2 but you cant deny a good product when you see one ya know? This is def the only skunk2 part going on my car lol.
04-01-2011, 06:12 AM
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Re: SHG is back! Easy's EP3 goes under the knife...
Interesting point about those steel plates on the S2 LCA's. Looks like a nice part, except for those bushings. I PM'd Function7 to see if they have considered anything like that, since I know they do all kinds of stress modeling and testing as part of their R&D when designing parts.
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Re: SHG is back! Easy's EP3 goes under the knife...
I just wanted to comment on Function7 LCA's (and other parts) versus others. E I know you said you like the looks of the Skunk2 arms better, and that's cool. However I asked Function7 about their design with the steel plate vs. F7's design with only the 3 bolts holding it on.
Anyway, not knocking you choice at all. You said you like the appearance of the S2 arms better and I can understand that. Not everyone likes the "truss" look of the F7 arms. And since you said you're going to replace the bushings anyway with delrin units, there should be no problems there. The steel plate on the S2 arms is a good design choice, I think, based on the materials used, but since F7 arms are designed differently and with different materials, a similar plate under the bolts is not needed.
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It's a lot to do with material selection. The S2 arms are cast 2024 aluminum (then machined to final shape) and that requires the plate to even out the clamping force ... our stuff is billet, and we made the bolt area thicker than what was required by our initial design modeling. We supply replacement bolts to accomodate for the thicker arms as a result. The wrought aluminum is significantly less prone to cracking and allows us to save overall weight.
We model everything we make extensively (or obsessively), then run test on the cars for extended/accelerated testing. The parts come off and go through non-destructive testing (X-ray, ultrasound) to identify any design issues we've missed, so we're aware of any potential issues that may arise and revise the design. Then, we repeat the testing process over and over until we're completely happy before OK'ing the products for final release to the public.
We model everything we make extensively (or obsessively), then run test on the cars for extended/accelerated testing. The parts come off and go through non-destructive testing (X-ray, ultrasound) to identify any design issues we've missed, so we're aware of any potential issues that may arise and revise the design. Then, we repeat the testing process over and over until we're completely happy before OK'ing the products for final release to the public.
04-01-2011, 03:36 PM
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Re: SHG is back! Easy's EP3 goes under the knife...
I just wanted to comment on Function7 LCA's (and other parts) versus others. E I know you said you like the looks of the Skunk2 arms better, and that's cool. However I asked Function7 about their design with the steel plate vs. F7's design with only the 3 bolts holding it on.
Anyway, not knocking you choice at all. You said you like the appearance of the S2 arms better and I can understand that. Not everyone likes the "truss" look of the F7 arms. And since you said you're going to replace the bushings anyway with delrin units, there should be no problems there. The steel plate on the S2 arms is a good design choice, I think, based on the materials used, but since F7 arms are designed differently and with different materials, a similar plate under the bolts is not needed.
Anyway, not knocking you choice at all. You said you like the appearance of the S2 arms better and I can understand that. Not everyone likes the "truss" look of the F7 arms. And since you said you're going to replace the bushings anyway with delrin units, there should be no problems there. The steel plate on the S2 arms is a good design choice, I think, based on the materials used, but since F7 arms are designed differently and with different materials, a similar plate under the bolts is not needed.
Like you said though the S2's will be fine for me, and the design is definitely one of the better of whats available. Appearance was a big factor for me and thats why I chose them. JHP was also running a nice deal so I got them on the cheap
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Re: SHG is back! Easy's EP3 goes under the knife...
Plus to add here the Function 7 has great customer service I bought a pair of used F7 lca's for my EL/EK the bushings on them were a bit out of place on them I called F7 told them what exactly was wrong they asked I take pictures and email them and they sent me a set of brand new replacing bushings free of charge only thing I paid was $5 for shipping
04-02-2011, 04:35 AM
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Re: SHG is back! Easy's EP3 goes under the knife...
Just the stock k20A3 for now. I have a DC5 engine tucked away but it's going to get some work done over the next year or so before it goes in
04-08-2011, 03:00 AM
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Re: SHG is back! Easy's EP3 goes under the knife...
So I should have some badass updates on monday. All the peices are finally coming together now. The delrin bushings were finished yesterday, and the hardware is on its way back from the plater. Should also be getting my shocks back in a week or so
04-08-2011, 06:17 AM
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Re: SHG is back! Easy's EP3 goes under the knife...
Yup, when I did my trailing arms I sandblasted some of the loose nasty **** off of them like around the joints and stuff. It sticks great to anything with bite like sandblasted or rusty surfaces.
So I should have some badass updates on monday. All the peices are finally coming together now. The delrin bushings were finished yesterday, and the hardware is on its way back from the plater. Should also be getting my shocks back in a week or so
So I should have some badass updates on monday. All the peices are finally coming together now. The delrin bushings were finished yesterday, and the hardware is on its way back from the plater. Should also be getting my shocks back in a week or so
04-11-2011, 04:14 PM
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Just came home with a box full of fresh *** hardware! Now time to sort it all out and start the assembly process. Let the updates begin (finally)
You must be static to drive it soon!
04-11-2011, 05:48 PM
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Re: SHG is back! Easy's EP3 goes under the knife...
Haha maybe it seems longer to me cause its just been a waiting game these last couple weeks. Im so stoked to drive the car again man, especially with this warm *** weather
Oh and were moving end of april much much closer to milford/bellingham so we'll actually be able to chill and not make hour long trips
Oh and were moving end of april much much closer to milford/bellingham so we'll actually be able to chill and not make hour long trips
04-11-2011, 06:29 PM
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Re: SHG is back! Easy's EP3 goes under the knife...
Was happy to see my hardware had arrived when I got to work today
Took some time to lay it all out and make sure it was all there, plus it was a baller photo op
Remember this? So much more legit now with some cadmium plating
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Then after work I got the rear calipers assembled - Threw on the new oem boots and greased the slides with some supplied niglube
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Then finished them up at home
Took some time to lay it all out and make sure it was all there, plus it was a baller photo op
Remember this? So much more legit now with some cadmium plating
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Then after work I got the rear calipers assembled - Threw on the new oem boots and greased the slides with some supplied niglube
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Then finished them up at home
04-11-2011, 08:08 PM
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Re: SHG is back! Easy's EP3 goes under the knife...
Dam Evan that came out dope bro.....where did you get that done at?
04-11-2011, 10:39 PM
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Re: SHG is back! Easy's EP3 goes under the knife...
I'd have laid out some black velvet to show off them suckers. Are those plated valve springs I see in there? o_O
04-12-2011, 03:53 AM
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Re: SHG is back! Easy's EP3 goes under the knife...
Thanks guys! I sent them down to a guy in florida that runs a race team that we work with when we do events down south. He gets stuff plated for his cars so he hooked it up.
We also sent down ALL the hardware for our newest Miata build at work
Those springs are for the donut flanges on the exhaust.
We also sent down ALL the hardware for our newest Miata build at work
Those springs are for the donut flanges on the exhaust.
