EG94dude

It's a 94 civic 5MT with the D15B7
Leaving work, I get into my car and I jump in and it cranks strong as ever but just will not turn over. Up until this afternoon, this never happened to me
I noticed no "check engine" light so I assume there are no blink codes (OBD1) to help. It's only 20-22 deg so I assume no frozen fuel line.

It was snowing a lot all day but the car had never let me down until today. It's sitting at my job now and I'm home now. Snow was about 4 standing inches.

Anything I should check? It might be fuel (pump, etc) or spark (distro cap, etc) ??

or maybe even a bad crank sensor or cam sensor? Do these cars have em and which should I check and where are they located?



thanks for the help, much needed

itsnotfast

Check for spark and fuel delivery first, that the easiest way to start troubleshooting.

EG94dude

i figured as much. This morning it ran perfectly fine and idled like a champ too

Show15

it could be the fuse box. is your clock coming on when you turn the key on? i had to shove a socket between the body and fusebox to get the fuel injection and clock fuse under the hood to connect enough. i have the same thing if i take the socket out.

EG94dude

really?
mind posting a pic of what you mean Show15?

seems like an odd fix

Show15

it is odd. the was a tube of body hardner in there but it isnt doing the job anymore. ill probably get a picture this weekend. im doing my rotors so ill snap a quick shot. the way i check is just turn the key to the on position and look at the clock. if its not on then your problem is with that fuse or the connection under the fuse inside the fusebox. if its on then youll have to look elsewhere

EG94dude

I m half certain my clock was on normally
thanks, waitin on photos

Show15

here the pic of my rigged fusebox. you can see the socket and old tube of body filler. if i take the socket out i dont get fuel i believe. ive never actually checked but it makes sense if my fuel injection and clock are on the same one and my car only starts when the clock turns on

Former User

Does the CEL work? When key is turned to ON(II), the CEL should turn on and then off after 2 seconds if there are no codes.

When you have a no-start problem, first listen for whether the fuel pump primes for 2 seconds when key is turned to ON(II) and check for spark.

EG94dude

the CEL does work as it should (it lights up at the key-in-ignition all lights check). I had VWs, I know these things

The fuel pump does prime. I turned off the radio and cycled the key to "on" a few times to be 100% sure it is priming

I m gonna have to check for spark. should I chang the dizzy cap?

Targa250R

The first step to troubleshooting an '88-00 Civic that cranks but will not start is always to check for spark. Bad ignition coils are very common in Honda models with internal-coil distributors.

Former User

I agree. Another possible and common cause of no spark is a bad igniter unit inside the distributor. Auto parts stores will often test it for you free of charge. You need a multimeter to resistance test the coil yourself. But check for lack of spark or weak spark first.

EG94dude

can anyone link me to an article with pictures for a DIY how to replace the cap/rotor
??

I know it s incredibly simple but I wanted to take a look at a guide

odidipissuoff

What about the crank positioning sensor?

EG94dude

where is it on the D15b7?

EG94dude

update.
I am getting fuel, cranking but I guess no spark.

My distributor is getting 12v when the key is "on" at its pins. A new dizzy is on its way with a new crank sensor and ignition coil

EG94dude

update. IT'S ALIVE
. I tested fuel by removing the top banjo bolt on the fuel filter and having a buddy crank the car. It healthily shot a lot of fuel, then I tested for spark and I had absolutely none.

Then the new dizzy arrived. I installed and found out the 2pin connector wouldn t go in....so I yelled a lot then took a look at my old one.

A part of the connector on the old dizzy was broken off to fit it to the engine harness coupler. I grabbed a flathead screwdriver and duplicated the feat of fancy. The new one fit fine.

Then I had my buddy crank the car and BOOM, I had HEATHY WHITE spark. I was really happy.

So I went down to my local autozone with my buddy and treated my baby to these things before I buttoned her up
-new dizzy rotor (old one looked like it was on its last legs)
-new NGK oem spark plugs
-new plug wires
-new dizzy cap

Now she starts up better than my old 09 Si. maybe I'll even get even better gas mileage once I seafoam the engine thru a vac line

thanks a lot Honda-Tech, you guys are awesome

@ron, it seems the old dizzy has either a bad igniter, ignition coil or a bad crank sensor. To be honest, I don't care to find out but thanks for the suggestion. It's just weird that the car wasn't tossing any CEL codes. The service manual's troubleshooting diagram for the PGM-FI says I should have had one following the flow it showed...

Former User

Congrats on the fix. When dizzy components go bad, they won't always throw a CEL code.

EG94dude

85 bucks shipped for a reman'd dizzu off ebay is awesome

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-R...Q5fAccessories

Targa250R

A bad coil or igniter will not set the CEL. You could have saved yourself both time and money by checking the coil when it was suggested.

EG94dude

well, the dealer was asking more money for each of those parts individually than buying the whole assy reman'd so there was no point in checking the coil if I was pretty certain it was spark